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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill

Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game.

People should have this kind of mindset that not everyday would be a profitable or winning day even if we do say that we are dealing with strategic based ones which we know that
we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just normal that you would lose certain games on possible day which you should really make yourself that accept those probabilities
so that you wont really get disappointed or something like that because if not then it would really be creating that kind of desperation inside.

Indeed. It should be known to all that everyday is not a good day in gambling. There will really be times that the odds won't be on your side and that's totally okay because after all, there is just a certain percentage where you will win. No matter how good your strategy is, most of the time, the higher edge is on the house. There are just certain percentage of RTP which is beyond your control as a player. So definitely, there would be days that you will lose but do not let it eat you up. You shouldn't be shaken for a loss that you have bet because if ever you will be easily shaken, you'll end up chasing that loss until you no longer notice that you keep on losing your funds continuously.

Desperation of winning will just get you bankrupt. It won't do you anything good most especially if you do not possess the right mental headspace to handle the stress. If ever you lose, do not let your emotions control you. Remember to do proper risk assessment and management. Let yourself cool down and do not engage in further activities if you know you can't handle any more betting stress.

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Quote from: STT on September 12, 2022, 06:13:08 PM

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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill

Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game.

People should have this kind of mindset that not everyday would be a profitable or winning day even if we do say that we are dealing with strategic based ones which we know that
we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just normal that you would lose certain games on possible day which you should really make yourself that accept those probabilities
so that you wont really get disappointed or something like that because if not then it would really be creating that kind of desperation inside.

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poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill

Its absolutely gambling, theres no way even a good player wont have a day he is destined to lose because the cards dont come. You cannot bluff everything, its a stop gap. Im nothing close to good at Poker but I just wait for other peoples mistakes, problem is if you never have good cards which is totally possible then you lose the game that day. Poker you win one day and always keep some because its going to be a loss another day you play, gambling overall is like that in handling the loss is part of the game.

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Quote from: virasog on September 12, 2022, 10:48:53 AM

That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.

Addiction is quite danger, but it is possible to stay within the limits. Around the World most of the suicides were taking place out of money problem and this is not just about gambling money. Gambling in some cases have helped them recover financial struggle and in some cases it have made them go deep into financial problems. Until we don't have our control gambling is not the choice of entertainment for anyone.

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Gambling does not have a history because gambling is something we don't know when it starts and the country gambling starts from, what ever we are talking of gambling is on our own, when we talk of gambling we are talking what will give us entanglement, and if we say gambling started from somewhere how did other countries notice of gambling since social media were not existing that period and that should be what we supposed to understand.

What are you trying to say here? Even when gambling just started a day and poofed in a day, it can still have history. History is something that happen that is related to the subject matter. And the subject here is gambling. Gambling history can be traces thousands of year ago, and you can read about some of it on OP. If you are trying to say something new about gambling, make sure it is acceptable. Though social media isn't available by that time, there are traces of evidence and even writings and drawings that tells gambling exist during those times.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 12, 2022, 09:44:55 AM

Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.

Right on point. The reason why I think those people decide to take away their life is may be because they think that by ending their life the debt will go away with them.
The fact is that in "some" cases it indeed goes away with the person because their families completely deny of the loan to be paid.
But in the rest of the cases their families are forced by the owners to pay them back the loan taken by the person.
All of this could be avoided if that person simply uses a risk management strategy and only loses what he can afford to lose.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 12, 2022, 05:29:02 AM

Quote from: decodx on September 09, 2022, 05:20:42 PM

Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling.
There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.

Interesting. Just take a minute and try to answer this question: The odds of winning in poker are better than in purely luck based games or worse? And the answer is, it is better for some people and worse for others. Skilled poker players obviously have better odds than inexperienced ones.

Sure thing, there are freaks using poker as pure gambling. They are going all in all the time, irritating everyone around, and sometimes they succeed. But most of the time they don't finish in the paid places.

Obviously skilled ones will not end up with a problem, they will most of the time end up winning but in the end it is still gambling and even the worst gambler could end up getting lucky here and there. This is why I believe that you should never consider gambling as a profession, doesn't matter what kind of situation you are in, doesn't matter what you are trying to do, if you want to make money from gambling then you should stay away from it.

I believe that the best way to enjoy gambling is to consider the money you deposited as gone, then start trying to have fun with that money because you just spent some money and you want some fun in return of that money. That makes more sense right?

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Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.

the most visible contrast (between gambling addicts and not) is that those addicts no longer have logic and will always make wrong decisions, I have seen many cases where when addicts who borrow money cannot pay, the addict's family is Bills, the history of gambling also tells that many gamblers in the past committed crimes and even deceit just to be able to fulfill their gambling desires. gambling with responsibility will never be done by gambling addicts forever.

That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.

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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling.
There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.

Every gambling games has a tendency of being enlisted on casino games regardless of it operational mode as long as it serving it purpose on gamblers, that's why one of the reasons you find them all in common is because they share similar name in the area of being used as game which also referred to as gambling games, also, we cannot derive a conclusion in saying poker is not a gambling game because everyone games has it own risk and luck as well both the proportion is ehat makes the difference.

Gambling is an attraction - and people want to play in quest to be rich - but sometime the table are turned and instead of becoming rich - people end up in loan.
There are various ways people are scammed. One someone run away with your loan money and you gamble with your loan money and loose. Both are the same the same. YOu end up paying for loan and get nothing in return

Not all people end up lending money, I think that those who lend money face their problem in the most diplomatic way possible, I have seen some cases of addiction where it ends so badly that the person in question who makes so many loans cannot pay them and prefers to tempt against their life, which is totally absurd, because that way they will only leave that debt to their loved ones, and that is something that is done without thinking, for this reason, it is that there must always be money management when playing, that is to say what you want to take risks so that you don't end up losing more than normal and then the game is not seen as fun but as torture.

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Quote from: decodx on September 09, 2022, 05:20:42 PM

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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling.
There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.

Interesting. Just take a minute and try to answer this question: The odds of winning in poker are better than in purely luck based games or worse? And the answer is, it is better for some people and worse for others. Skilled poker players obviously have better odds than inexperienced ones.

Sure thing, there are freaks using poker as pure gambling. They are going all in all the time, irritating everyone around, and sometimes they succeed. But most of the time they don't finish in the paid places.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 11, 2022, 08:47:06 AM

In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.

I do not agree with this. While it is true that some individuals are more vulnerable to becoming addicted to gambling, the reality is that anyone can develop a gambling addiction. The Internet has made it incredibly easy for people to engage in online gambling, which increases the risk of addiction because it provides constant access to the activity, and makes it easier to conceal the activity from others. Research has shown that individuals who are addicted gamblers feel a false sense of control while they are engaged in these activities and it has very little to do with whether the gambler experienced a big win or not.

This is very similar to what I have read, it is true there are people that have tendencies which make them more vulnerable to fall and become addicted to gambling, but that doesn't mean this is something the rest of the population is immune to it, anyone under the wrong circumstances could become addicted to gambling, alcohol or illegal drugs, it is because of this that we need to always be very vigilant and at the slightest sign that there is something wrong with our attitude towards gambling we need to stop immediately.

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Quote from: decodx on September 09, 2022, 05:20:42 PM

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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling.
There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.

Every gambling games has a tendency of being enlisted on casino games regardless of it operational mode as long as it serving it purpose on gamblers, that's why one of the reasons you find them all in common is because they share similar name in the area of being used as game which also referred to as gambling games, also, we cannot derive a conclusion in saying poker is not a gambling game because everyone games has it own risk and luck as well both the proportion is ehat makes the difference.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 23, 2022, 11:21:53 PM

That is why, as I have said before, in many threads, if people managed to see the game as a means of entertainment, there would be no cases of addiction, because addiction begins when the player has the overwhelming need to win or win no matter what, and since sometimes when you play with a lot of pressure you usually lose, you can't do anything else, and that desperation makes the player more frustrated and when he tries to win he loses, the problem with this is that he lends money, asks for money from their friends, family, and many problems associated with money and the way they play begin, they cannot control greed.

I agree with the bold line because what we need when playing gambling is how to make and use gambling as entertainment so that we will not be dissolved in gambling.
If everyone realized this, they would not spend much money and could stop on time to reduce their money loss while gambling.
But unfortunately, not many people can control this and even get frustrated when they lose control and see losing money in front of them.
And if they win a lot of money, they get greedy and forget that what they got was because of luck.

Somehow I disagree with the bold line. anything can become an addiction, even an entertainment-seeking purpose on a game can be addicting. We have seen lots of kids getting addicted to certain games, so even without gambling, a person can be addicted to a game.

Here is another gambling history note. In the year 1978, May of 26 (Memorial Day weekend) the first casino open in Atlantic City. It was reported that players waited over two hours in line just to get inside.[1]

[1] https://www.funtrivia.com/en/Entertainment/Casinos-Gambling-6258_4.html

Thank you very much for the article, I really said the above ´because the moment people see the game as a job, they will feel pressure and in turn a lot of stress, especially when the results are not seen in the game, dear, if we look a way to entertain ourselves, something like when you play the play station, or you play just to have fun, the emotion goes away, well at least that happens to me, maybe at first you play often, but when there is money at risk than fun it turns into desperation wanting to get back or make more money, and I think that's when the addiction starts.

The problem of getting more money when it runs out, and there is nowhere to get it, is when they start lending money, getting into debt, the issue gets complicated.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 11, 2022, 08:47:06 AM

In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.

I do not agree with this. While it is true that some individuals are more vulnerable to becoming addicted to gambling, the reality is that anyone can develop a gambling addiction. The Internet has made it incredibly easy for people to engage in online gambling, which increases the risk of addiction because it provides constant access to the activity, and makes it easier to conceal the activity from others. Research has shown that individuals who are addicted gamblers feel a false sense of control while they are engaged in these activities and it has very little to do with whether the gambler experienced a big win or not.

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Quote from: coinerer on September 10, 2022, 06:02:40 AM

There is no obligation to gamble. A gambler is completely independent here. If the gambler is able to take gambling as the center of his entertainment then the gambler is successful there. As opposed to, if one is addicted to the opposite of entertainment, his failure will be constant.

Generally people involved in gambling have such thoughts, stupid people think gambling is something that should be done every day or an obligation, actually every individual has the right to decide and decide whether they want to gamble or not, Independence is one of the main thoughts that must be upheld in the world of gambling, so that they are not easily frustrated when they lose and when they win they can control themselves.

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So what are your thoughts? lets discuss.

I've read about the history of gambling, in the ancient Greek era, I like to read things like you show in this topic, from the ancient era to the era of sophisticated technology, I hope the world of gambling can be remembered for all time from the beginning until now.

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Quote from: Shamm on September 10, 2022, 09:00:38 AM

Yes you are right that mate like you said not all the time we are lucky enough to earn every single bet because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome so we need to control and discipline ourselves. Because the more we bet big amounts then the more we loss so if we bet a small amount then expect that our loss is small too. And if we have our luck then for sure big amounts of winning we've earn.

The expectations of a gambler in any gamble it plays is to make profit by wining a game because it's something that you think of, before making your bet. I believe that gambling is something you know from your mindset that either you win or lose and some people who is addicted to gambling don't barley know their limit in gambling playing. But sometimes i blame who don't map a particular amount of money for gambling.

In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 06, 2022, 11:29:50 AM

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True! Gambling is meant/designed to be a mean of entertainment. People spend money on gambling to have fun with a small chance to get back their money or even make a profit which adds more fun.
If you feel unconftorbale when you gamble (ex. anxiety, stress, remorse...) then you are in it for the wrong reason like thinking it's a fast way to make money or because you are gambling more than you can afford to lose. In both cases, you should stop right away.

People are used to changing the original purpose of things, and when those purposes are changed, they are changed for life, nobody returns to the original purpose. Before I talk about the gambling, let us take bitcoin for instance, the original idea of satoshi is that bitcoin is a currency that would be used without a central authority, based on peer to peer. But today, everyone one is buying and holding bitcoin and some buy and lose fiat and there is now a rule to invest according to what you can comfortably lose.

This is same for gambling, in the early time it was for entertainment, but today it has changed to money trap or investment. You will see people giving themselves target that they will make such amount of money or hit a jack pot before a certain month ends. History changes.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 10, 2022, 03:33:04 AM

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We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.

I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.

Talking about when we have to stop before the luck ends will not be easy and will tempt us to continue playing because we think that luck is still on our side so we have to use it to play. But no one knows when the luck will end and when we lose in one round, we still think this is just a coincidence and we will definitely win the next round. But when we lose again, it also doesn't make us stop and instead continues to play, making us lose the winning money we got earlier.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 06, 2022, 11:29:50 AM

^^
True! Gambling is meant/designed to be a mean of entertainment. People spend money on gambling to have fun with a small chance to get back their money or even make a profit which adds more fun.
If you feel unconftorbale when you gamble (ex. anxiety, stress, remorse...) then you are in it for the wrong reason like thinking it's a fast way to make money or because you are gambling more than you can afford to lose. In both cases, you should stop right away.

That's right. When gambling originated, gambling was usually done at social or gathering events where there was a large gathering of people. The avid crowd then enjoyed the gambling only from a position of their entertainment. But nowadays many people start thinking about it as a source of income and have already faced many losses.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 09, 2022, 02:49:02 PM

We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.

I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.

I guess not all the time we need to become dependent on luck because all of our actions will have the result but of course in gambling, it is your choice to play or to make a risk and it is good to make yourself aware about the possible decisions you made like a limit of the designated amount you play and risk because not all day gambling gives a huge amount of winning to us.

Yes you are right that mate like you said not all the time we are lucky enough to earn every single bet because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome so we need to control and discipline ourselves. Because the more we bet big amounts then the more we loss so if we bet a small amount then expect that our loss is small too. And if we have our luck then for sure big amounts of winning we've earn.

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