Topic: The Illuminati discussion thread Do they exist? - page 2. (Read 8071 times)

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Maybe. But I'd focus on the problems that we can be sure that exist, like governments.

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Trying to be brief to save battery.  Illuminati does exist.  Much misinformation lies around the subject.

Illuminati is not bad or evil.  Illuminati seeks to illuminate humanity into higher dimensional beings.

The deluminati is who you are probably familiar with.  The grand puppeteers pulling the strings.  The willfully ignorant media of ego and matter.

Deluminati seeks to enslave humanity as they have done for centuries.  They seek world domination.

Illuminati seeks word peace.  Look at Kid Cudi, Jimi Hendrix, The Matrix, Lucy, all mediums to help us awaken.

I will be illuminati myself as I am undergoing the process of enlightenment and consciously ascending into the next dimension, where dreams truly become heaven at night.

My purpose is the disclosure of extradimensional beings and the ascension of humanity.

Illumination is nothing to fear.  It's literally the absence of fear.

Will try to go deeper later, hope this clears things up a little.

I dont see the logic. Yes Im in control of my own actions so why the fuck I cant blame others for their fucked up action fucking the world up?

Not sure if they exist, but it might be that knowledge they got was passed to their students, who could be working on their ideals, and this knowledge could be available to many highly educated people. Also their ideas could be inspirational to people who actually have power to influence world development....globalist billionaries financing organization and campaigns pushing their views on what is right. But I dont believe in that ocultist/mystic dark stuff, even though I know that many rich and succesful people believe in stuff like cabala.

Illuminati logos

http://mediaexposed.tumblr.com/logos

Illuminati, is originally a group which litteraly means: The enlighters.
They where somewhat against the Catholics, if I recall correctly.

Been to Rome recently, (1 week ago ) and saw a Illuminati sign in a church, what that would mean, I don't know...
Also, lot's of people are trying to be cool to do everything with illuminati, but they don't even know what it is and it rages the fuck out of me.

True, but that doesn't mean there aren't people who are trying to control us of the world around us. We can just be players in a bigger game.

Illuminati is an old story! I don't think thay exist. Maybe there is something similar but not so powerful 

We are all in control of our own action. Can't blame conspiracy or Illuminati for the world we are in today.

They exist ,other wise wouldn't be smoke without a fire.

Well spoken!
Just like an Illuminati aspirant to deny its very existence!  
This is the way to keep our secrets safe in the shadowy places.  
Watch and learn,  
Watch and learn.

No. the Illuminati joke is getting old. Not a single prove for their existence whatsoever,so like god they are fake.

The preservation of math, technology and knowledge in a world that deemed it "black magic" was a noble quest and is a continuing work.
The parallels to our endeavors are not insignificant with respect to freedom and privacy.
Welcome to the illuminated.  With this understanding, you are on the path of transcending.

Your next step on the path is to contemplate the moebius manifold, for we transform from within, and yet there is no entrance.

For the sign post on this journey, contact Clifford Stoll (yes that Clifford Stoll) and acquire one of his klein bottles.  This shibboleth will guide your meditation to the next sign post.
http://www.kleinbottle.com/index.htm

The word "illuminati" has turned into nothing more than a blanket term for dark groups of subversives that seek to control through deception.

A better question would be, do there exist dark occultists that seek to use black magic for personal gain?

Are there groups of these people that have infiltrated the highest echelons of the elite ruling class in society?

The answer of course is yes.

We are all being controlled, manipulated. Very few people realize it. They use black magic, occult rituals, numerology and dark sex magic in the vein of aleister crowley.

All of the major world events that have occurred were influenced by these people... 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the civil war in Ukraine, MH17 & MH370, their attempts to get rid of Assad in Syria. The good news is that they are not always successful. For all of their black magic power they are still arrogant, selfish people at heart, truly nothing more than parasites feeding off of humanity like a bunch of leeches.

JFK spoke of a dark conspiracy at the highest levels of society that he planned to get rid of. Then he was assassinated shortly after.

The rise of christianity threatened to wipe out all advances in mathematics, reason and philosophy. The final blow was the murder of Hypatia by a christian mob in Alexandria.

At this point, the Pythagoreans & Neoplatonists went underground. They pretended to be christians while secretly passing on mathematics.

At some point the Pythagoreans & Neoplatonists began referring to themselves as the Illuminati and began using secret symbols to communicate amongst themselves.

Later they hid within the ranks of the Freemasons.

After the renaissance, mathematics was able to return from hiding without as much persecution by christians. There was still some problems as witnessed by the trial of Galileo by christians, but soon an agreement was reached. Science and mathematics would be separated from religion. Science would be confined to the observable and testable realm. Math would only be a tool that just "happened" to coincide with physical phenomena. Religion would still rule the realm of the untestable.

After this, the Illuminati split up into several groups. Some groups kept the name, other groups changed their name. Most eventually died out as the need for secrecy was greatly reduced.

Due to their deep understanding of math and philosophy, some became bankers and accumulated great wealth and power.

Bitcoin will change that. In a way, we are the new Illuminati. We will illuminate the world.

Wow, I have the first edition of that Illuminati game from Steve Jackson.  Ultimately it led to their company being raided by the Feds, because the Feds were sure that IT WAS NOT A GAME.  The raid almost killed their company.  It was a famous case at the time, involving Phrack Magazine and the E911 document.

EFF got on the case and sued the US government with Steve Jackson.  They won this case and it set some important precedents.
Much of which have later been undone, but it is a good case to keep in your knowledgebase anyway.

https://w2.eff.org/legal/cases/SJG/?f=background.sjg.html


BTW, if you really want to join the Illuminati...

Do they exist? Depends what you mean by 'they'. I don't think they 'control' the world per se though they might want to, but there are certain groups of powerful and wealthy individuals who want to and will buy as much power and influence as they can to shape certain world invents. War is a business and the oil and arms industry and banks profit immensely from this and what better way than to get governments to give them their citizens taxes by buying arms to invade countries then charging them more to rebuild it and the banks lend them more money when they need it and it's the government that bails them out when they screw up. It's legalized money laundering on a global scale. The politicians of course get a kick back from this is various ways.

Maybe "The Illuminati" don't exist, but surely something very very similar yes.
A group of powerfull people with a lot of cash can be scary 
But not, they don't control the world.