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hero member
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September 14, 2023, 10:19:23 AM
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To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. Grin


I am NOT against the arrival of new people to this forum, on the contrary, it is always good to see fresh ideas.
But as far as I've noticed, all the newly invited come exclusively because they heard about the possibility of earning money here on the forum. It seems that there is a rather small percentage of newcomers who are not hunters of a higher rank. A higher rank on the forum almost exclusively brings only the possibility of potentially higher earnings in various campaigns.
So, inviting people because of the bounty campaign is not a special benefit for the quality of this forum.
It’s hard to ignore the fact that people only come in bitcointalk because of their eagerness to earn profits later on. I must admit I was also one of them way back then but there was a shift of interest when I started to learn deeply from the forum and realized that this forum is more than just a source of profits, since it will also pave way on making you aware about financial management especially if it involves bitcoin. With bitcointalk, there’s actually a lot to learn and it will be an eye opener for those people who have criticized bitcoin in a negative way as most of them have never been part in the forum or have never known the forum that it actually exists.
jr. member
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I think this forum (Bitcointalk) is very important to inform the newbies. But most of the newbie members don't know how to move here. They do not know the rules of this forum! So they end before they start. I think all the new members of this forum (forum rules, newbie guidelines, how to make good quality posts) should follow these, then everyone can gain complete knowledge.
full member
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Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.

yes, and we don't want that type of people in our forum, because they will ask us questions like this "hello, how can i open account on bitcoincore?", "can i use my phone to post?", what is this captcha and how to remove it?,
some of those have very little knowledge about this kind of online things it's very frustrating to answer their questions and make them understand. I don't know in reality but i shared my experience with this kind of people.

we want to find people like us, they will be found on platforms like we use and interest we share. like watching informational documentary, eager to learn new things, on other opensource projects forums like linux, etc.
so discussion about bitcointalk forum on documentaries like "biography of satoshi nakamoto", "silk road hack", "tor documentary", etc. will attract more like minded people.
even i also come here to look at this forum after watching silk road documentary to see Ross Ulbricht's post.
hero member
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   As a newbie, you have so many taughts running through your mind, ie "would you rank up or get stucked in a lower rank for long, when next will you earn merits. while doing this, you become so careful creating or interacting with members so you start earning recognition and trust on the community.
If you or a newbie know your level of ability when joining this community then the issue of ranking up is not a difficulty, because there are many people who will judge every time we provide objective and useful thoughts to other people. Bitcointalk is unique and not the same as other platforms because here we will always be corrected when we say something wrong and the discussion base makes many people interested in replying to each other's posts.

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. Grin
There are some people who think so, but there are also many beginners who come with good knowledge, so that when they diligently read the forum rules it can help lead them to a higher ranking. Remember, when we obey the law wherever we are we will definitely be safe and secure, the key to life is trying to be ourselves and not breaking existing rules. Learn something that is easier to understand and discuss it with lots of people in forums through posts then I'm sure we will become more knowledgeable.

There is no obligation for anyone to invite people to the forum and this forum is not like other social media that requires followers. Let them come in their own way so that there is a moral obligation to maintain the forum rules which must not be violated because if they come alone they will automatically find out and read the rules beforehand.
hero member
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Nothing lasts forever so the signature campaigns too. Wink
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What are everyone's ideas for improving post quality?

I have mostly ruled out:

 - Removing signatures or sig ads globally.

Companies run their marketing here through signature campaigns can shut down their businesses, scam exit, decide to stop their signature campaigns or their companies are seized by governments.

Yes, nothing lasts forever.

I quoted some suddenly ended campaigns.
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Whenever a topic is created and you take your time to read from the first page of that topic to maybe the 4th or 5th page, you will be so much amazed at how people react to matters. I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty. Yet, the person is a full member and the wearing signature.

Another person said that this forum is not about signature and contest but this same person also in enjoys signature campaign and also join contests, so I am not just understanding the whole thing.
There is no specific thing about the forum but it's about bitcoin and it's about earning and it's about everything,  is about liberty. Allowe people to enjoy the forum while it last.

Nothing lasts forever so the signature campaigns too. Wink

No offense just my guess though, but talking about the opinion of members who contradict their own principles shows most likely they are posting to meet the weekly quota, am I right?

Everyone should begin from scratch, bitcointalk is one hell of a place where you can learn a lot about money, bitcoin, and many other things so if someone has the opportunity then hopefully they will use it wisely. Keeping the traffic coming in is also important for the forum or else it will be left stranded so its a win-win for both parties.
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It's very important for newbie to come here because not all newbie actually do the rubbish that all of them are being tagged for. Newbie are the ones who increases the hope of this forum staying longer because every reputable member has all once been a newbie because no one actually skips this part. But as newbie learning about your environment is key because this is what pusshes vou to grow and strive very well here in the forum.

You have written with the right words of inspiration! It's necessary for new members to come to this site, and there is no unhealthy or bad behavior among new members that established members haven't experienced themselves. All important members were newcomers at some point, and no one can skip this phase. You can be an ideal companion for new members on this forum, eager and willing to help.
sr. member
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when inviting someone to Bitcointalk, you should see to it that they understand what it's all about and yes you can equally tell them all the benefits that come with joining Bitcointalk but be sure to inform them about all the rules they have to abide, to so they don't come here and start spamming the forum without understanding the rules.

Apart from the benefit of gaining knowledge I don't think there's any other benefits to expose to someone you're just telling about bitcointalk. This is important so that person have one goal to focus on as he or she register and become a member of the forum which is the goal to broaden his knowledge on bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

Many a newbies have been misled because those that introduced them to the forum put forward some financial benefit's ahead of knowledge and learning regarding the forum.  About the rules, of course it's important to give a preliminary lecture to anyone about the rules guiding the forum so when they come they can get the interest to know more other rules that follows.
hero member
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I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty.

However, there is a special attraction to the signature and bounty campaigns from this forum. perhaps a conversation from a friend asking where to get Bitcoin or where they can get extra money. That's the reality, there are most Bounty hunters or signature campaign participants. Tell family or friends about getting money from forums. and it is interesting for some people to follow it and then register on the forum with the aim of making money. there is no problem with that, everyone on the forum has their own motivation for being on the forum.

the problem is when they invite new people to the forum but don't guide or explain them properly. like a bounty participant who gets small results from the campaign he participates in. Then he gets advice from his friends to create more accounts and you will earn more.
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Bitcointalk forum will never be this huge and productive if it weren’t for newbies that keep entering in the forum to gain adequate knowledge, to share their own opinions and ideas, and to participate in an interactive discussion wherein at the end of the day, they learned from other members as well as other members also learned from them. So without newbies in the forum, bitcointalk will only have a limited scope and will never grow and become more productive. As much as newbies are essential in the forum, thus members who have high experience in the forum and are contributing quality post are also as important as them.
Everything is a step and as we keep growing, we member move from being a newbie to a member and from there we keep advancing in knowledge and rank to where we become knowledgeable about the forum and what the crypto market is all about. We join the forum like a toodler and grow to a higher rank. The traffic of the forum keep increasing as old members keep leaving the forum and new ones keep joining making the community very busy and active. Although there are some newbies that tend to be very lazy and not ready to learn looking for who is going to spoon feed them.
legendary
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That's often the problem with people. I've invited several others too and almost all of them displayed this same attitude. Just ignore the unserious ones and move on. At the right time they will come asking to be led. Learning is always the hardest part for most people. They don't like to wait for the process. They want to jump the queue and into success with little or no effort at all. Life isn't that way.

Hard to invite people who think that you are just promoting networking scams to them and can't blame them to think about that since government portrays bitcoin as so risky investors. Also other misinterpret this as scam so most likely if they don't know anything about it they will leave especially if they cannot get anything on this or other platform you try to point out on them.

But if you tell about money making schemes for sure there's a lot of people will get interested about it but don't hype people for wrong things just let them discover this and only those interested people would provably stay.

Yes you are right that mate nowadays it's hard to invite other people to access on bitcointalk.org cause son of them knows that bitcoin is a scam so of we introduce them this forum they will say that this forum is is not reliable and they can't earn anything on this forum. And some of once they know this forum they will try and register but all of the sudden they will disappear cause they will not totally dedicated to know more in this forum.

With the new merit system introduce for sure newbie will get bored for trying to became better since most of new people are just there because they was told that money is easy to earn on this forum.  But once they realize how hard to meet the requirements for sure they disappear and find another way to earn. Only those people who has a lot of experience outside which have lot of knowledge will stay its because they are the one who can cope up with discussion and can easily understand that they need to put extra effort to achieve their targets here.
hero member
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Staying relevant on the BTT forum entails a lot of time and research and as such not everyone will want to devote that time to just one forum. Inviting newbies to the forum is not the issue the major concern is how many are willing to stay put to learn, research and make meaningful contributions.

That's true, and also i want to sound this as a reminder to most of us who persist on inviting newbies to the forum and then go ahead in telling them that they could enjoy financial benefits when they join, because lately I've been seing newbies coming to this forum and telling you that they want to make money and not that they are here to learn or give contributions to others about bitcoin, we should let them know that this is a discussion forum, if they think they have the time, courage and patience to go through learning new things, this may be a place for them to stay.

Overtime we have battled with issues of spamming and low quality posts and the major reason been that newbies were introduced to the forum with the idea of earning through signatures, bounties, art contest and more so they paid less attention to how much content the contributed to the forum.

That is why you could see that most of the bounty hunters are the ones that falls under this category except for few among them, this is also one of the reasons they hardly rank up, maybe if they had not been given an impression on making money on the forum, some would have learn to give out their best and those that can't would have left.
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Whenever a topic is created and you take your time to read from the first page of that topic to maybe the 4th or 5th page, you will be so much amazed at how people react to matters. I have read the where a full member was suggesting that newbies should not be invited to the forum because they come only for money either through signature campaign or bounty. Yet, the person is a full member and the wearing signature.

Another person said that this forum is not about signature and contest but this same person also in enjoys signature campaign and also join contests, so I am not just understanding the whole thing.
There is no specific thing about the forum but it's about bitcoin and it's about earning and it's about everything,  is about liberty. Allowe people to enjoy the forum while it last.
hero member
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Winding down.
Bitcointalk forum will never be this huge and productive if it weren’t for newbies that keep entering in the forum to gain adequate knowledge, to share their own opinions and ideas, and to participate in an interactive discussion wherein at the end of the day, they learned from other members as well as other members also learned from them. So without newbies in the forum, bitcointalk will only have a limited scope and will never grow and become more productive. As much as newbies are essential in the forum, thus members who have high experience in the forum and are contributing quality post are also as important as them.
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Staying relevant on the BTT forum entails a lot of time and research and as such not everyone will want to devote that time to just one forum. Inviting newbies to the forum is not the issue the major concern is how many are willing to stay put to learn, research and make meaningful contributions. Overtime we have battled with issues of spamming and low quality posts and the major reason been that newbies were introduced to the forum with the idea of earning through signatures, bounties, art contest and more so they paid less attention to how much content the contributed to the forum.

The idea of whom to bring to the forum should be prioritised based on the interest of the introduced, The intended member should have interest in learning and self development as regards valid topics shared on the forum before making the move to bringing them onboard so the don't get disappointed at the end of the day or get banned as a result of their own actions.
hero member
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Yes you are right that mate nowadays it's hard to invite other people to access on bitcointalk.org cause son of them knows that bitcoin is a scam
Bitcoin is not a scam rather some people think it is. This does not surprise me because it is in the nature of some people to criticise what they don't understand. I have friends who are still waiting for me to cry and regret joining Bitcoin... to them, I'm wasting my time and money on Bitcoin. What I do is to simply avoid such negative people and focus on people who show some level of interest

And some of once they know this forum they will try and register but all of the sudden they will disappear cause they will not totally dedicated to know more in this forum.
If we are honest with ourselves, you will agree with me that the first month is not always easy for a newbie. Knowing how to post in the forum, knowing where to post and trying to make sense are some of the huddles newbies face. The expectations from newbies, as shown by the attitude of some older guys, could be so frustrating for some newbies and not everyone have the courage to endure,  hence, the reason many newcomers run away.

If we could be more patient with newbies, correcting them in love and giving them a sense of belonging, am sure more will stay.
jr. member
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We should seriously consider bringing in newcomers. You invite those who want to come here, your close relatives and friends If you don't come then they will think of merit first and those who want to run after money will not last because to stay here you have to earn money by working creatively.First you need to know the rules then how to work here then watch it patiently or else you may get hurt.Don't bring people who can betray you bring one day those who will benefit you.In my opinion patient skilled talented and hardworking people should be brought here and only those who want to come.Teach them how they feel about what you should know before they arrive.Get someone who is willing to work on long-form writing, then he is Then Sam will bring you too.

I would like to say that those who are willing to do whatever they want to do or who want to come bring them of their own free will.
I think the new invitation is very important here But bringing them full knowledge here is very important If you don't bring the greedy treacherous money grabbers then you are doomed.
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legendary
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It's honestly not that bad, just needs some getting used to.

There's no way any typical layperson would use other bbcode blocks (and don't even get me started on quoting multiple replies) and say "it's honestly that bad". Companies just made platforms like Twitter and Reddit so so idiot-friendly that Bitcointalk would immediately look and feel ancient.
legendary
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I think if you are interested in learning new stuff about bitcoin and want to have similar discussions you would automatically find the forum and we are not some business platform that would engage ourselves into some promotions to invite newbies to the platform according to me.I know many of us want forum growth with new members joining but many of them are interested in bounty hunting only and spamming the forum with same threads so it's better to avoid them and still we have huge community with lot of constructive threads and knowledgeable content being shared on daily basis.
hero member
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Many times, I think that not having more newbies here on Bitcoin will actually make the community less active.
So, why do I think it's essential to welcome more newbies to Bitcointalk? The presence of newcomers injects vitality into the community. They bring fresh ideas, add value, and help spread the word about Bitcoin. New members can also play a pivotal role in inviting others and creating engaging discussions.
Do you think a smaller number of newbies will be a serious problem?
I don't think so. This forum never targets to have certain number of members. Even we have no newbies, the activities still last as usual, no serious impact on the forum activities. Each member can bring fresh ideas, it doesn't only come from newbies. Even old members can be more effectively to spread Bitcoin information because they have established knowledge. It is different when newbies spread the Bitcoin information, they can mislead it because of lack of knowledge. Regarding the discussion, most the members involved in discussions constantly are old members. New members sometimes rarely join discussion due to varied reasons.

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