The Importance of inviting Newbies to Bitcointalk - page 3.

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Quote from: DVlog on September 10, 2023, 04:21:41 PM

Inviting them to do what? Most of the new people who are spamming the forum are here because of catching the earning opportunity.

Have you bothered to think about the future of the forum without new people joining? Does that make for continuity? Do you envisage an end to this forum that have helped a lot of people? If you can answer these questions sincerely without trying to impress the older members of this forum, i'm sure you will realise the importance of inviting new people to this forum.

Sincerely, it can be annoying seeing new users making some posts in some boards; it's like when you see children display certain irrational characters. You won't kill them because their knowledge is limited by their age and experience, instead you correct them with love. Remember, we all started as newbies and you cannot tell me you were perfect right from the first day you joined this forum... this is a place to learn and grow.

Quote from: DVlog on September 10, 2023, 04:21:41 PM

Sometimes I think if there isn't any signature campaign this forum would lose organic users and activity slowly.

I'm not trying to attack you or your opinion but we have to set the records straight. Without any benefits, you will not be here. There must be something keeping each and everyone of us here. Remember, not everyone here is wearing signature; some are here for the knowledge, others are here to promote their business while there are people here just to feel among the Bitcoin community. Our motives are different and that is how it should be.

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Quote from: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 03:39:36 PM

To cut the long story short, I strongly believe that we should invite more users to the forum. This will not only boost engagement but also bring fresh ideas to benefit both new and old members alike. So if you know of someone who is willing to learn about Bitcoin, don't hesitate to tips him about Bitcointalk. Grin

I will choose to invite newbies who are truly interested in learning about bitcoins. They will make better forum members and take it more seriously than someone who was forced to join the forum, or just joined because there is a chance to earn from forum campaigns. If I also come across people who have a lot of knowledge about bitcoins and cryptocurrency, I also will like to invite them to the forum, so they can really contribute to the knowledge that we get here.

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Op I think you are getting it wrong by saying that majority are been invited in the forum through friends, it's partially correct and also incorrect from my understanding. What I want you to understand in bitcointalk is that, its now many people is been invited in bitcointalk through their friends because of payment they are receiving in signatures campaign, their is some people who registered in bitcointalk without knowing that signatures campaign where they will earn weekly and monthly bitcoin subscriptions is in existence, some people joined bitcointalk through bounty link shared on Facebook and telegram even reddit and twitter, so many people who registered in the year 2011and 2012, 2023 noticed bitcointalk through social media.

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Even now, I always refer to this forum as the best way to learn about bitcoin and crypto although I haven't specifically told them to create an account. In the past, I only tried inviting a few people to join this forum to guide their journey towards bitcoin and crypto explorations. But I never told them about how to rank up because it is unnecessary IMO. If the goal is to rank up then most likely the real intention is to earn money in this forum. But that is so minimal so it doesn't make any sense. People should go on with their regular jobs and businesses while investing in bitcoin and altcoins. If they stay in this forum and have fun reading and commenting then pretty sure they themselves will discover the ways to earn and it is up to them if they pursue achieving high ranks if they are interested in joining bounty campaigns.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 11, 2023, 04:48:28 AM

Then why you're not participating in those art contest? it doesn't make sense you're want to see newbies are participating when you're didn't. Maybe I get what you mean, you have alt accounts that's used to participate in art contest? Tongue

I sometime try to ignore people when they accuse me of alt accounts and I will do same to you. Maybe if you had checked my post history very well, you would have seen that I actually participated in the Re: Roobet.com | August Art Contest | $5000 Up for grabs! Ends August 31st. As a high ranked member of the forum, I expected you to carry out your research properly before accusing others. How does one manages to run alts when growing just one account takes time and courage.
We all love what's best for the forum, and I gave a suggestion which I think will help increase the activities and knowledge of the forum.

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Not everyone are interested with Bitcoin, not everyone want to use their time to active in this forum, not everyone want to post in this forum, not everyone can accept harsh words and criticism etc etc.

Just let it what should be, not need to convince new people or anyone to join in this forum.

Quote from: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 03:39:36 PM

Again, Newbies can revitalize participation, particularly in competitions like the Roobet monthly contest, October Halloween contest and so many other interesting contest on Bitcointalk.

Then why you're not participating in those art contest? it doesn't make sense you're want to see newbies are participating when you're didn't. Maybe I get what you mean, you have alt accounts that's used to participate in art contest? Tongue

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Quote from: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 03:39:36 PM

On the other hand, some newbies are finding it difficult to join or even last here on Bitcointalk for long. This is because they get distracted by some of the other activities here on Bitcointalk including bounty, and signature campaigns, or try to outsmart the rules of the forum (plagarism).
For this reason, they are not willing to learn. Newbies these days, don't want to learn but try to teach others what they don't have enough knowledge about. They forget that one must learn to crawl before one begins to walk.

For newbies not to learn from this forum, it depends on what they are told from the beginning about this forum. For instance, if you tell a newbie the earning aspects of this forum believe me when the newbie arrives here he/she will not want to understand this forum and will start teaching to gain merit quickly instead of gaining knowledge from this forum first. If we are inviting newbies to this forum we should invite newbies that already have in mind to learn about Bitcoin but they are limited to the opportunity of doing that.

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I agree with the OP that newbies can give the forum fresh communication as long as they are real newbies and not the tenth alternative, and this may not be the first time that an account has been banned.
I observe that as soon as Bitcoin begins to rise in price, more people appear here on the forum, and I think this can be seen next year. As soon as the background of the news changes, people's interest awakens, and some even find their way here without an invitation.
On the other hand, for my personal example, I told several friends about the forum when I came here, but unfortunately, no one was there since people did not show interest. This applies not only to monetary motivations, as many people think, but sometimes interests are different, and we should not put pressure on people. There is simply a time when people come here and stay for a long time because of their desire.

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I refer most of people that I talk with about cryptocurrency to the forum. I don't invite them to register but told them that Bitcointalk.org is a good source of information about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. They can also get registered and ask questions about something that they don't know on cryptocurrency but I always advise them to do searches first.

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Quote from: Sim_card on September 10, 2023, 04:04:57 PM

You should invite only who is ready to learn or ready to invest or has already invested without a proper knowledge on how to keep his funds safe because some bitcoin investors thinks that leaving their coins in an exchange is the best due to lack of knowledge on how bitcoin should be stored.

If they should go by this statement I will still be running round the street without knowing that bitcointalk exist. When I was first introduces to the forum I don't know anything about bitcoin, I normally see it in Internet but don't know it, seen it frequently I began to asked how can I get Bitcoin, I thought it something that you earn through performing task which I discovered and I give up. One day a friend of mine introduce me to the forum and since then I started learning about bitcoin, even know that it contain eight digit.

People who are looking for something different can find their way here. No one had introduced Bitcointalk personally to me, I found the forum through google search since during the first time I got interested with cryptocurrency. You are lucky that someone had introduced the forum to you and possibly guide you on what to do in the forum.

In the matter of having new users, it is indeed needed to make the forum alive and active especially those who have technical knowledge about coding since they can easily grasp the technical aspect of bitcoin and may contribute to the forum by giving answers to people who asked about technical questions.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 10, 2023, 10:47:53 PM

Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum.

That's definitely correct. Many will favour more comfort tailored social medias to The forum which seems to not be interested in your registration or your attention; it's either you want to be here or you don't.

This will not attract the majority, but in my experience anyone who I invite to the forum usually takes to it like duck to water without any interest in the financial gains that are available here.

Quote from: mk4 on September 10, 2023, 10:47:53 PM

And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

It's honestly not that bad, just needs some getting used to.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 10, 2023, 10:47:53 PM

Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.

It is easier to use a mobile phone to tweet, retweet, share a status on social media than typing a long post in Bitcointalk. They don't want to type too much on mobile phone and social media are more fitted for their ready to spend time and effort on mobile devices.

Fortunately, on Bitcointalk, you can learn from insightful topics and if newbies want to learn technical knowledge, Bitcointalk is very fitted for them.

Mobile vs desktop usage

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on September 10, 2023, 10:00:37 PM

They do not really have to be hardcore members, even those who have a very basic interest in Bitcoin can pick an interest in the forum and build that interest from there.

The retro style can also serve as an appeal to those who are looking for something unique to be a part of.

Sure. But a huge majority of these people would heavily favor modern social media platforms rather than a retro-style forum. I'm pretty sure most of these are even just smartphone users that don't even frequently use desktop/laptop computers. And we all know how painfully bad Bitcointalk can be when used on a mobile phone.

There's a reason why retro-style forums in general(outside of specific niches) have been slowly dying.

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It's always good to have newcomers. Whether they'd be more of a lurker or an active participant in discussions doesn't matter much. I guess the most important thing is that the forum is growing. Some of these newcomers may be new to Bitcoin; some of them may be not. Regardless, it's always a good development. It's either one more person is beginning to learn about Bitcoin or one more person sharing knowledge and bringing in new ideas and perspective.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 10, 2023, 09:56:30 PM

The people you can attract to Bitcointalk today are mostly the:

- people that are actually interested in Bitcoin, hardcore-mode

They do not really have to be hardcore members, even those who have a very basic interest in Bitcoin can pick an interest in the forum and build that interest from there.

The retro style can also serve as an appeal to those who are looking for something unique to be a part of.

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Ok — how? Knowing how most community apps/platforms right now(Reddit, Twitter, etc) work, it's very unlikely for the typical person to be interested in a 2003-style community forum. The people you can attract to Bitcointalk today are mostly the:

- bounty farmers
- developers/technical people
- the privacy conscious
- people that are actually interested in Bitcoin, hardcore-mode

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Quote from: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 05:57:17 PM

But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.

Financial motivation is a very big reason why a lot of members use bitcointalk and that in itself is not a problem at all. We all have bills and real life expenses to pay, getting some income while doing something you love doing and have an interest in is something that comes very easy for everyone.

That being said this does not mean that we solely invite someone with the promise that the forum will give them an extra source of income if they do certain things right. We should only invite people who have an interest in Bitcoin or use this forum as a means to spark an interest for someone we want to get to know about Bitcoin.
This will reduce the rate of spam from members who are here just to join bounties and get rich quicky or at least make some dollars quick.

If signatures ever stopped more than two-thirds of the members here will be totally inactive and those who do remain here will either do it sparingly out of love for Bitcoin or in the hopes that signatures will someday return and they will have grown their accounts in preparation for that.

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Quote from: Sim_card on September 10, 2023, 04:04:57 PM

You should invite only who is ready to learn or ready to invest or has already invested without a proper knowledge on how to keep his funds safe because some bitcoin investors thinks that leaving their coins in an exchange is the best due to lack of knowledge on how bitcoin should be stored.

If they should go by this statement I will still be running round the street without knowing that bitcointalk exist. When I was first introduces to the forum I don't know anything about bitcoin, I normally see it in Internet but don't know it, seen it frequently I began to asked how can I get Bitcoin, I thought it something that you earn through performing task which I discovered and I give up. One day a friend of mine introduce me to the forum and since then I started learning about bitcoin, even know that it contain eight digit.

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Quote from: Hatchy on September 10, 2023, 05:57:17 PM

But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.

Let's say just like a car that won't move far if it doesn't have gasoline.
It helps to sustain your expenses while you are here just like the electricity bill and your internet bill.

But newbies shouldn't think first about the profit/benefit and shouldn't not only the reason why they are here. It should be a determination to gain knowledge and improve skills while they are here. Because IMO, the more you are eager to make a profit will have to idea of cheating while you are here which probably ends up destroying your account once you've caught it.

Anyway, encourage someone is a good idea to join here in the community but there's no reason to force them if they will not.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 10, 2023, 04:33:32 PM

Signature campaigns and art contests isn’t the forum primary concern, Theymos have mentioned before that signature may be removed from the forum entirely. Judging by that, if we only need newbies to complete post count for weekly pay, then there won’t be any need for newbies if and when signature campaigns are no longer here.

I know most people will lie about this part, (to save ones image or Shocked

). If the signature campaigns are to be stopped someday on Bitcointalk, the no of members here would drop. Alot of members here on Bitcointalk will tell you that they are here to gain knowledge of which is one benefit of being a member of Bitcointalk but they all know deep down that if there wasn't any signature campaigns then alot of them wouldn't be here, but only visit when they are less busy or when they feel like.. I won't lie I too might just do same . But let's all be realistic. The signature campaigns and contests keeps the forum active daily giving every members a way to share their knowledge and driving them into having a reason to continually use Bitcointalk.

Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 10, 2023, 04:33:32 PM

Btw what makes you think LoyceV is human? Bots do not have genders. I think we will be seeing LoyceV in next year’s bitcointalk awards for miss bitcointalk category Grin

Lol, I actually had lots of taughts about LoyceV. Sometimes I can't tell if it's a human or a bot operating those account. What ever they are, thy are doing some good jobs on Bitcointalk and I think they should keep it up.

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It's very important for newbie to come here because not all newbie actually do the rubbish that all of them are being tagged for. Newbie are the ones who increases the hope of this forum staying longer because every reputable member has all once been a newbie because no one actually skips this part. But as newbie learning about your environment is key because this is what pusshes vou to grow and strive very well here in the forum.

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