The Internet don't forget, many times Donald Trump says bad about Bitcoin - page 2.

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Quote from: tread93 on June 10, 2024, 02:05:12 PM

I think that it was especially a strategic move here for Trump's campaign but I don't think that he is all of the sudden a crypto supporter just because of that.

You would have to check when he started talking about bitcoin positively. I have only seen his comments supporting bitcoin from this year so yes it is very likely that he is banking on bitcoin's success for him to gain his own.

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I think that he could see Bitcoin as more of a tool now. No matter what he has said on bitcoin in the past I think its safe to say that so many others like him that used to be opposed are now coming around and beginning to support it.

Trump has been reported to hold assets in crypto wallet but does not support bitcoin. This article is from last year. I think if he genuinely believes in bitcoin, he should have said months ago especially that it seems that he is well aware of what cryptocurrency is.

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Quote from: Cookdata on June 08, 2024, 03:06:04 PM

This is not about candidate choice or who you support but I want to inform you that all Politicians don't care about Bitcoin or anything concerning crypto, it has always been their political career and how they can get to the office and make their goals and nothing more. This is why you shouldn't give them your Bitcoin, you will suffer later if their policy doesn't favour Bitcoin.

Last week and this week, there has been a discussion about Donald Trump being referred to as "Crypto president" and I see that as a big fat lie, he is nothing but just one of the candidates like others who is soliciting support from different communities and Bitcoin is just one of them.

Fact check me, Donald Trump was the president of the United States between 2017-2022, and guess what, Bitcoin had one of the most crucial and worst moments in these years, the Covid-19 market breakdown and fear among Bitcoin investors when Bitcoin did as low as -45 % in one day but when this guy was asked about Bitcoin, he said all sort of bad things about Bitcoin, this was before and after Bitcoin has recovered from all these losses. Now walk with me with the things he has said;

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Source: https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192

Here is one of his posts in 2019 when he think Bitcoin is not real money and too volatile, used for unlawful behaviours such as drug trade and other illegal things.

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Source: https://x.com/TylerLaroche_/status/1401903725728387082

Here is another video in 2021, he admits he will never invest in Bitcoin because he thinks Bitcoin competes with the dollar and Bitcoin bleed much that day.

The big guy now accepts Bitcoin and other crypto forms for donations to support his campaigns and the coming election.

Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/crypto

He is not the only candidate guilty of this part, all the other candidates contesting are now accepting crypto donations from people. However, the moment they reach the office, they act like it was never them that was campaigning and asking for help from poor holders. They don't care about you and this is why you should never donate your Bitcoin to anyone because your Bitcoin will be sold on the market and will continue with their games.

Don't give out your Bitcoin, HODL!!!

I think that it was especially a strategic move here for Trump's campaign but I don't think that he is all of the sudden a crypto supporter just because of that. I think that he could see Bitcoin as more of a tool now. No matter what he has said on bitcoin in the past I think its safe to say that so many others like him that used to be opposed are now coming around and beginning to support it. We will only see once he becomes president the 2nd time if he will take action and do what he says he will do, which I have a strong feeling that he will.

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Politics is nothing but the game of lies, one who do it on your face but in a convincing way then they might get the chance and that's the fate of democracy if 51% people choose someone then 49% people has to go with whatever decision the government make.

He may called Bitcoin is not a real money but now he accepts donations and that's the growth of crypto and atleast by now these people who thought Bitcoin isn't real money should consider changing their opinion.

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Quote from: Cookdata on June 08, 2024, 03:06:04 PM

This is not about candidate choice or who you support but I want to inform you that all Politicians don't care about Bitcoin or anything concerning crypto, it has always been their political career and how they can get to the office and make their goals and nothing more. This is why you shouldn't give them your Bitcoin, you will suffer later if their policy doesn't favour Bitcoin.

Last week and this week, there has been a discussion about Donald Trump being referred to as "Crypto president" and I see that as a big fat lie, he is nothing but just one of the candidates like others who is soliciting support from different communities and Bitcoin is just one of them.

Fact check me, Donald Trump was the president of the United States between 2017-2022, and guess what, Bitcoin had one of the most crucial and worst moments in these years, the Covid-19 market breakdown and fear among Bitcoin investors when Bitcoin did as low as -45 % in one day but when this guy was asked about Bitcoin, he said all sort of bad things about Bitcoin, this was before and after Bitcoin has recovered from all these losses. Now walk with me with the things he has said;

1.

Source: https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192

Here is one of his posts in 2019 when he think Bitcoin is not real money and too volatile, used for unlawful behaviours such as drug trade and other illegal things.

2.

Source: https://x.com/TylerLaroche_/status/1401903725728387082

Here is another video in 2021, he admits he will never invest in Bitcoin because he thinks Bitcoin competes with the dollar and Bitcoin bleed much that day.

The big guy now accepts Bitcoin and other crypto forms for donations to support his campaigns and the coming election.

Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/crypto

He is not the only candidate guilty of this part, all the other candidates contesting are now accepting crypto donations from people. However, the moment they reach the office, they act like it was never them that was campaigning and asking for help from poor holders. They don't care about you and this is why you should never donate your Bitcoin to anyone because your Bitcoin will be sold on the market and will continue with their games.

Don't give out your Bitcoin, HODL!!!

Gentle reminder that none of these clowns stood by crypto until it worked well for them, not even Bernie Sanders of all people. If anything, these people are just in here to get your favors when the votes are about to be cast. And while I don't live in the US, I don't care for some convicted felon, even if they are the biggest cryptocurrency stan on the planet. Remember that the state of your country's going to be decided by who's at the seat of power for the next 6 years. Don't fuck it up and be smart when you do cast that vote.

Forget crypto, forget who's against it, it will always find a way into being a use-case despite bans and crackdowns anyway, be more inclined to think about the welfare of your kids in the near future.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on June 10, 2024, 06:34:05 AM

Op, Trump was president till 2021, not 2022, but other than that, I agree with that post. Trump is not pro-Bitcoin, and he demonstrated it multiple times in the past. He is using Bitcoin to get a wider appeal at the upcoming elections, that's all. He can easily get back to his old rhetoric about Bitcoin being risky and the USD being the best once he's elected (if that happens). I believe that some politicians can be genuinely pro-Bitcoin (if they are libertarian, for example), but Trump is not one of those.

Trump was never a pro-bitcoin in reality. If he’s admitting right now that he has come to favored bitcoin and want to promote it, surely he’s currently wearing a mask for the sake of his future political plans. Not only Trump but I believe majority of the politicians are still silently against bitcoin, but with the coming election, pretending to favor and promote bitcoin is just a play in order to win the hearts of bitcoin community.

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Quote from: pooya87 on June 08, 2024, 10:48:29 PM

It is not a good image for Bitcoin that a convicted felon is receiving bitcoin payments and some people use terms such as "crypto president" to describe this criminal. Do bitcoiners really want that image? Criminals receiving bitcoin payments?!!

Apparently, some "Bitcoiners" will praise for anyone who will pump their bags. Be it Trump for donations, Elon Musk for Tesla, or Larry Fink for an ETF.

Might be controversial nowadays, but criminals receiving Bitcoin payments is absolutely normal and expected, because Bitcoin is for everyone, including criminals. So, the short answer is yes. We do want Bitcoin to have the image of being used by criminals, if that's what it takes for it to be accessible to everyone.

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Quote from: Cookdata on June 08, 2024, 03:06:04 PM

He is not the only candidate guilty of this part, all the other candidates contesting are now accepting crypto donations from people. However, the moment they reach the office, they act like it was never them that was campaigning and asking for help from poor holders. They don't care about you and this is why you should never donate your Bitcoin to anyone because your Bitcoin will be sold on the market and will continue with their games.

Don't give out your Bitcoin, HODL!!!

The internet indeed never forgets, I can’t even remember him saying all this bad things about bitcoin in the past, this is clearly just a way for him to get himself to the office he’s seeking for and will use the influence of the large crypto community to win his goal. I am so disappointed seeing this because I never thought he once said bad about bitcoin not until now. If he were someone else, I may have some believe that he has changed his stance about bitcoin or how he feels about this currency, but since he’s a politician, he is definitely using it to play political games that will get him back into that seat. Politicians will always be politicians and will do anything to achieve what they’ve set their minds towards.

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Politicians will always play the game of politics according to how it suits them and change goal posts when things go sour ! But seeing that Bitcoin and crypto currencies were given the green light to be traded on much bigger platforms I really don't see Trump fighting this especially that he is not POTUS any more when he had the influence...going against BTC now would dent his popularity especially that more and more people are falling in love with this and will be wise to go with the wind to win voters sympathy votes Cool

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Quote from: Cookdata on June 09, 2024, 08:31:36 AM

I hope one day, Americans will be free from the shackles of Democrats and Republicans, it's been so many years battle between these two but I know it wouldn't continue forever.

I don't think they will. It's the best recipe to divide and conquer. Have the Democrat voters fight the Republican voters and see enemies in them. Make the left fight the right, and so on. In recent times, we have new divisions of vaccinated versus nonvaccinated. Or my favorite division is when they call you a radical ultra-wing nationalist if you are against Genocide Joe and everything he represents.

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absolutely right, as i said in some of my posts, these candidates are not really on the side of bitcoin and altcoin because they love it and really want to fight for it, but more for their own interests. they use it to gain public sympathy and make it seem like they love bitcoin. when in fact they don't really like it and only use it during the campaign, they are politicians and nothing more than boomers fighting for power.

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Quote from: Cookdata on June 08, 2024, 03:06:04 PM

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Don't give out your Bitcoin, HODL!!!

You are very correct with the analysis you have made concerning politicians and their disguised agenda because it is just the way they get into power.
I would like to make a reference to the Nigerian elections of which the sitting president made such campaign promises and as we speak we are aware how much the government is doing to crackdown on crypto currency holders and users, most especially the exchanges being hassled for taxes, incentives, being forced to stop trading NGN and the ultimate which is regulation is the next move to control BTC and cryptocurrencies users in the country.

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In his campaign manifesto, Nigerian President Tinubu pledged to legalize crypto and blockchain technology for use in the country’s banking and finance sector.

https://nairametrics.com/2024/05/05/president-tinubu-must-keep-his-campaign-promise-on-nigerian-crypto-industry/

I don't believe in Trump's cryptocurrency promises because it's just him being a politician and seeking votes from whatever sources he can find.

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100% agree with your post. People are saying "Trump is good for Bitcoin", however he is really just using it as a ploy to get more votes. Twitter since being bought by Elon Musk is becoming a cryptocurrency haven, and he wants to get on that bandwagon and get as many votes as possible, especially now that he is back on that platform, and it is heading more conservative.

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Op, Trump was president till 2021, not 2022, but other than that, I agree with that post. Trump is not pro-Bitcoin, and he demonstrated it multiple times in the past. He is using Bitcoin to get a wider appeal at the upcoming elections, that's all. He can easily get back to his old rhetoric about Bitcoin being risky and the USD being the best once he's elected (if that happens). I believe that some politicians can be genuinely pro-Bitcoin (if they are libertarian, for example), but Trump is not one of those.

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Victory at any cost is Trump's motto now. And if you need to be a crypto enthusiast, he will create an image for himself as such without going into details at all. However, does America have any options? Anyone running for president today will do whatever is necessary to achieve their goal. But after that, everything becomes familiar from old times, when promises are forgotten and words remain just words.

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Quote from: pooya87 on June 09, 2024, 07:18:11 AM

Quote from: nutildah on June 09, 2024, 02:09:24 AM

I concede that our choices this time around are particularly unappealing.

These two were running in the previous round as well!

The difference is they were both already too old last time and they are 4 years older this time.

Quote from: OgNasty on June 09, 2024, 10:45:31 AM

Saylor said idiotic things about Bitcoin before jumping all in as well (and he never stopped if we're being honest). Everyone starts out as a critic. That's a healthy attitude to have before doing your due diligence. Now it appears that Trump has had time to learn more about crypto and has even participated himself. He is very clearly the more pro-crypto candidate regardless of any prior statements that may have led people to believe otherwise. No sense in trying to make it seem like something it isn't.

Saylor is a lot like Trump: he will also say anything to increase his own personal standing with whomever he is currently trying to impress. That's the beauty of being a narcissistic sociopath: being totally unencumbered by any sense of moral responsibility & unable to experience shame.

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Why should we be surprised that a politician suddenly becomes loved up with Bitcoin? Heck, they are politicians and as such it's a normal thing to jump to whatever opinion that suits your agenda. We're are saying Trump is a two faced person, what about RFK Jr who denied he ever had any Bitcoin in his holdings till data proved otherwise?
It's not news and I won't break my head over this if I were you. I'm sure if Bitcoin were to be a person who decides to punish those who had spoken ill of it and are now turning to sing it's praises now it has gotten a headway, I'm sure news outlets would have had a field day trying to get a scoop.

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Quote from: pooya87 on June 08, 2024, 10:48:29 PM

That's a really sad story of a nation with more than 300 million people whose choices are being reduced to these fools and these fools only!
Worst part is that they call this mess a "democracy"!

The US will have to choose between two evils. It is like choosing between the loin and the deep blue sea. I thought Joe Biden would have changed some wrong policies enacted by Trump including the pulling out of Iran nuclear deal and the support for Israel. But he came didn't change anything rather he is contributing to global instability.

It's like the same evil with two faces.

I was watching something on Youtube today where a retired army colonel (Lawrence Wilkerson, also SecState COS) was saying how Trump ruined all the work done during Obama time on Cuba and returned the draconian attitude toward that country. Something that today is starting another Cuban Missile Crisis (Russia is going to place missiles there to retaliate against US placing missiles in Ukraine. Russian warships will be there next week) and this could have been avoided very easily if Trump hadn't ruined years of work...

Guess what Obama's vice president didn't do when he became president? ‍‍
He continued Trump's draconian sanctions and inhumane blockade on Cuba... and they wonder why Cuba is getting close to Russia and why we are "seconds away from midnight"!

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Hmm, Inflation is a big problem, if someone found a way to avoid inflation with some risk to earn potential returns with additional benefits like avoiding inflation why do such politicians make creepy sounds, make public stunts for their election campaigns, and never focus on facilitating those opportunities first when they are in power? TBH I used not to mix up the policies with investment markets, as we all know to win elections politicians can go for a level of hypocrisy. That's not the case in underdeveloped countries or third-world countries, it's the same case everywhere.

But still sometimes after reading such posts, pain from the depth of my heart arises, haha in the end I can only endure it as this is not the first time we are having discussion on the same node.

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Saylor said idiotic things about Bitcoin before jumping all in as well (and he never stopped if we're being honest). Everyone starts out as a critic. That's a healthy attitude to have before doing your due diligence. Now it appears that Trump has had time to learn more about crypto and has even participated himself. He is very clearly the more pro-crypto candidate regardless of any prior statements that may have led people to believe otherwise. No sense in trying to make it seem like something it isn't.

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I already said it in another topic that i hate it when people talk about BTC and politicians in the same sentence, BTC does not need politicians to grow or survive. BTC is decentralized and operates without any central authority, don't let people who are looking to score cheap points in the forthcoming election decieve you that you need to vote for them for BTC to survive and grow.

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