Topic: The Jesus Thread (Read 322 times)

God doesn't have to show Himself, because He made everything good, and Jesus supported it all so that it stayed that way. Can God help it if we are unwilling to see?

The smallness of God exists in the fact that electrons, tiny as they are, are still not the smallest particle-waves that we know of. If God were not small, He wouldn't be able to support small things in the perfection of physics.


At the time of the splitting up of nations at the confounding of languages at the Tower of Babel, the ancestors of Egypt were one with the ancestors of Ancient Israel and the Jews. God chose the nation of Ancient Israel to be the nation from which Jesus would come. Why them? Because they were a line of extremely stubborn people... stubborn in favor of God, but often stubborn against God.

What we forget is that Jesus was part of Ancient Israel. He was the most stubborn of all of them, but stubborn in righteousness. Jesus was so stubborn that He wouldn't stay dead when they killed Him. And He is still alive today.



And here we are today. Did the prophets talk about us?

The whole thing is about what God is doing and has been doing for all of us. This life goes away in, say, 100 years, for all of us. It is simply a preparation for a wonderful life in the Hereafter, for those who are on God's side. The joy of the Lord is your strength, so that you can be stubborn enough to rise from the dead like Jesus.

Hail Jesus! Man suggests, but the Lord disposes.

Cicero had said that he could attest to the Smallness of God, because of the small amount of Territory left to his People.

The Jewish People had a History with Egypt and its Neighbors.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023&version=NIV

The Prophets talk about Things that Happened. And they had been involved with the Chaldeans and the Assyrians. In Egypt. Then Hezekiah is attacked by Sennacherib and the King of Kush comes out to challenge him, and 180,000 Soldiers are Killed, then Sennacherib. This is all Years after Egypt. And Genesis Ends with Joseph being Vizier in Egypt. Then after that, the Prophets are Talking about what Happened after Joseph.

Jesus is dynamic. He has been given authority for the whole universe by His Father. He juggles Father Power to fit all people in the best way. If we are not strong enough, we die. But Jesus will bring us with Him when He returns in the judgment, and give us a new body that can never die.

The trick is believing this. But, what else is there to believe? Nothing else has any power.

Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.

He lives, he rose from the dead. A gift of resurrection he freely gives to all! Learn his works, strive to be as he is. Things can be quickly well with you as you do. Recieving his glory will happen as you are willing. He wants us all to return to the paradisical glory of the kingdom of his father.

I always like these TheArchangelclk videos. The old angelology of books like Enoch are music to my ears. Puts me in pure bliss meditating on it.

https://youtu.be/OTsa-edmlM4?si=L08421BbMHwYmHjS

Love this part:
1 And I looked and turned to another part of the earth, and saw there a deep valley with burning fire. 2. And they brought the kings and the mighty, and began to cast them into this deep valley. 3. And there mine eyes saw how they made these their instruments, iron chains of immeasurable weight. 4. And I asked the angel of peace who went with me, saying: 'For whom are these chains being prepared?'5. And he said unto me: 'These are being prepared for the hosts of Azâzêl, so that they may take them and cast them into the abyss of complete condemnation, and they shall cover their jaws with rough stones as the Lord of Spirits commanded.6. And Michael, and Gabriel, and Raphael, and Phanuel shall take hold of them on that great day, and cast them on that day into the burning furnace, that the Lord of Spirits may take vengeance on them for their unrighteousness in becoming subject to Satan and leading astray those who dwell on the earth.

3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. 4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. 5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. 6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

Jesus is personal for everybody. And He is merciful for all. But be sincere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsrfaaTxSYg

At op being emphatical, the facts you pointed here are so much that it takes more than ordinary mind to read and still try to follow up... If I may ask what books have you read, to point all these hard to believe things.....

The existence of a Supreme (over all seen and unseen) is not the issue here..
On this, the belief on christ and his finished work can happen outside gathering in a building (church)

The church is meant to aid in the Increasing of the knowledge of God and human socialization also.... However, at times you'll find this gathering {in a building} to be lacking behind in its primary assignment which increasing and reminding of the knowledge of Christ
 When this be the case, one can avoid such helpless gathering...continue to believe and on with seeking of the knowledge of Christ in God (God in Christ)

Church is a Place Built to Wait, it is also a way to Connect to God, as like in this Video.
https://vimeo.com/916370481

But the Church is kind of the Catholic Holy See and the Basilica, but Protestant Churches are even more just Places of waiting, but also have Developed Structure.

But You do not have to go to Church to believe in God.

It's possible and many think that it's okay to do that. But increasing your faith is another thing and attending church is gonna play a role for it.

And this is true, the strength comes with gathering and praising in the church together.

As what Hebrews 10:25 says:

Believing in God, and in Jesus for salvation, is not only possible without formal church, but it is the way it happens a lot.

The point is that there is less strength of faith without the connection that the churches bring.

Is it possible to believe in God and not go to church? Isn't that too rude?

Recently there have been a lot of Christian Scholars who are looking into Jewish and Muslim Scholarship and some for example are Learning for the First Time that Paul both Authored most of the New Testament and never met Jesus in Person.

And it makes Paul look bad rightfully in many ways, and he becomes like a Punching Bag where the Jews and Muslims share their Millennia of Research on the Subject, and the Christians don’t have much in Response.

But, Christians have always Criticized Paul themselves, which may not be Clear if You are just some Local Pastor or in the Pews. Christians for example have said that Paul in Philippians is not Humble enough, or Humble at all, when he says that he is Suffering like Jesus. Even though Paul’s whole Point is “Suffer Righteously, and You will bring People to Christ” which is echoed by Peter, who is also Criticized (not so much Historically, but in modern Times) for saying that Slaves and Wives should be obedient and take Punishment or to Dress Modestly, to bring Slave Owners and Husbands to Jesus. But the Church Scholars usually promote Peter while saying Paul is not Humble enough, that the comparison to Jesus is unwarranted.

But if we look at Paul, he was part of the Roman Government, Killing Christians, and he is Converted when he has a Mystical Encounter with Jesus. His name was Saul, and he changed it to Paul. And he Recognized that the Roman Government was Controlled by God.

The Bible is about Egypt, and Israel, and Canaan, and Angels in Canaan helping Jews, and as Time goes on People forget how God was in control of the Governments. In Ester and Ezra and Nehemiah, this becomes more apparent, but as Jews go into Rome “The Nations” and the Roman Empire become more and more identifiable in each Other, as in the Jews can very Clearly see themselves and the Nations as how they accept and are Treated by the Empire.  But Paul says, “God is still there, even in the Roman Government”.

And then back to the Book of Philippians, he is in Jail and he says the Palace Guard is converting because they can see why he is Suffering, and that it is for Jesus.

And we all must when Studying this, understand that Pilate and the Romans who Crucified Jesus had been Taught Torah, they Gambled on his Clothing and didn’t Break his Bones and not by Chance, but because they were informed of what the Torah said about the Messiah, and they wanted to see if they could make it all happen. When Jesus was Crucified everyone must understand that the Romans gleefully Hoped that they were Provoking God’s Appearance. Those Romans wanted Jesus to bring forth God, or Angels, or anything. And so then after his Death, Paul was not just Teaching Jews, but many Romans and Others who were part of Learning these Things about for example the Messiah. And this led to eventually the Emperor Constantine and the Vatican, with the help of Peter and Others. Some of this is Documented by Josephus as well for those doing Research.

And we could maybe say that without Paul, who is sometimes seen as maybe too Supportive of the Roman Authority, maybe those Authorities would not have taken the same Time and effort to even put together a New Testament with all of Jesus’ Disciples Writings or their Disciples Disciples as it may be.

I Really wish there were a few Other People as Smart as me on this Planet. But this isn't the First Time. My People are the Ones that gave the Humans any Intelligence in the First Place, and caused the Flood by giving the Humans Knowledge.

The Alexander the Great Egregore/Oracle
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K7lb6KWBanI

This Video Shows the War Board of a General, but doesn’t completely cover Everything because it is just a Military Overview of Territories and Politics, there were also a lot of Religious Implications. Alexander the Great is in Maccabees in the Bible. The History of Baalbek is also kind of important.

Now,
To get into the Definition of the True Essence of Jesus more than we have in this Thread already, we need not look to the Aquarian Gospels of Christ, or the Nag Hammadi Codex, but instead, we can actually look at Blockchain and get into an Understanding.

Previously, in the Original Post in this Thread, I mentioned that Jesus was Speaking Several Languages, he was Speaking to Gentiles and Jews, he was Roman (under the Jurisdiction of Rome) and Jewish, he was Speaking to Men and Women alike, he was in the Center of many Things, the Spirit and the Flesh, the Heavens and the Earth, the Nations, Jesus was at the Center of many Different Things, and I mentioned that You can understand that by looking at Hecate (Goddess of the Crossroads) and Hekka, which as a God (The Origin of the Word that means both Medicine and Magic in Ancient Egypt) is in some ways like Jesus, being in the Crossroads, being Part of all Societies, and all People's and all Things. Being all Things to all People. And the Connection between Heaven and Earth.

We can actually Understand this Better if we look at Blockchain.

There was a Problem early on in Ethereum where the ERC20 Tokens were not available for Trade outside of ETH Based DEXs. You had to Build a DEX on ETH or else it was impossible to Trade the Tokens. This was Corrected with Oracalizing.

Now, if we look at Oracalizing in Terms of Cryptocurrency it becomes kind of Simplified, it is a kind of way to Wrap Currencies, and make them Legible (Readable) to the Next Blockchain, or DEX. A Standard for this has become like the BEP-20, the Peggy Tokens. But Early on there were all kinds of Oracalizers being made. And Basically what the Definition of an Oracalizer is, is a kind of Software of something, which takes something on One Network, and Opens up all the Other Networks to it. The Oracalizer creates Bridges to Other Places for the Currency. It Connects it to Other Things (DEXs, etc), or Other Blockchains. It Connects something Outwardly to Other Things. That is what the Oracalizer is doing.

Now, a Ouija Board is a kind of Simple Oracle that Everyone knows about, but in the Ancient World they were much more Elaborate and Life Sized and Things, and they were more like a General's War Board, where like the General of an Army might have Toy Soldiers on a Board, and Model Ships and Everything, Showing where all known Locations are, and where he wants his People to be and Things. That is kind of the Large Scale Oracle.

So Jesus.

Jesus was an Oracle we could say, or was Connected to an Oracle. And Everyone needs to understand that. In no way is this Thread saying anything about Jesus' Sexuality, except that he was Married to a Female, Named Mary Magdalene. This Thread is about Jesus being Part of an Oracle, and then it is about Everything else that was going on.

Jesus Spoke to Samaritans, in Fact most Christians assume Samaritans were all Nice People to Jews, because of the "Good Samaritan", Samaritan is just Automatically equated with being Kind or Charitable. That's what Jesus was doing. He Oracalized the Samaritan for example, the Good Samaritan and the Other Parables and Things are all being Oracalized out by Jesus. And the Bible does Operate as an Oracle, People don't even Read it in Context mostly, they just choose Favorite Verses and get them in Tattoos and Everything. It's an Oracle.

There was a Time, after the Dead Sea Scrolls, when the Jewish Scriptures became Part of the Center of Greek Studies, as Alexander took Egypt, and Phrygia (Turkey, where the Capital of Rome was moved later, Rome as an Empire didn't exist during Alexander). 72 Jews were Put together into a kind of Library, or Barracks, and they were fed and taken Care of, and they had to Write the Oral Traditions down for the Greeks. And all 72 of them Wrote the exact same Thing, and the Greeks said that this meant it was the Word of God. This is the Septuagint. This is where the Word "Melech" becomes the Greek "Angel". This is where the Book of Maccabees is, etc.

Then, Alexander Died, and Ptolemy put Everything together, and there were Bibliothecas Written, and Everything moved on, Talking about how the Gods of this or that Village or City State, all got into the Sky, or Vice Versa, how the Gods got from the Sky to the Earth. And Aristotle Wrote "Classification" and "Physics" and "Metaphysics" and Started the Classical Age, and now at that Time Philosophy was Emerging, Aristotle was from the Line of Socrates to Plato, they just had Disagreements. And Society went on, and these Sacred Texts became kind of Part of something that Only Kings and Others knew about, the Ethiopians knew about the Ancient Scriptures, later the Christians, and the Arabs Learned. But for Years and Years, Hundreds of Years after the Septuagint, Everyone forgot about the Bible, the Septuagint to the Greeks.

Then came Jesus.

And Jesus brought back these Discussions in this Context. Actually brought it to Everyone, was Preaching to Gentiles.

Also, if we are going to Investigate, what we actually need to look at is Ethnobotanicals. Read what Carl Ruck added to this Book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacred_Mushroom_and_the_Cross

This Book, "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross", came out in the 70s and it Basically goes through with what was New at the Time, but is more Well-Known now (more Well-Known because of this Book) that there were Mushroom Cults all around at the Time, that Everyone around Galilee was Taking Mushrooms, they were all Living like Alice in Wonderland kind of. It was a lot of Mushrooms, and it was Considered to be like a Fertility Thing, where Everyone would Take Mushrooms to have Sex, sometimes all together in an Orgy.

And this was Very Common at the Time.

So the Book was about the Theory that Jesus was not a Person, but that the Disciples were Talking about their Rabbi, the Mushroom. "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" says that Jesus is a Mushroom.

Carl Ruck Corrected it with all the known Mushroom Research, he is an Archaeological Ethnobotanist who actually works to figure out what Plants were being Ingested for Ceremonies in Human History. And he kind of Wrote about how maybe Jesus had Mushrooms (Shepherds would know where to look), and Mushrooms were Everywhere, but that the Sacred Mushroom and the Cross made an unnecessary Leap to say that Jesus was a Mushroom.

Then there are People that Study this Research, like J.P. Morgan did, and they do some of these Mushroom Ceremonies today, and Carl Ruck actually wrote about them. And Americans didn't even know about Psilocybin until about the 50s and 60s, that is when Magic Mushrooms were brought from Mexico to the United States. Before that Only Amanita were known about. The kind that the Smurfs and Gnomes Live in.

But the Greeks seem to have maybe known about Other Mushrooms. There was an Entire Ceremony done in what is like a Basement but it has no Top floor, they would just dig into the Ground and make a kind of Cellar with stone steps and stone walls, and they would go down into their Cellar Structure, a Temple, and the Point was that they would go in and after taking Mushrooms, they would emerge, like a Mushroom, with new Wisdom.

And a lot of this was going on around Jesus. We have Evidence of that.

In no way is this Thread saying Jesus is Gay. Jesus was Probably Married to Mary Magdalene and might have had Children.

Jesus is not Masculine, that is what this Thread says. And Really, the Masculinity that he is the Opposite of, is Gay. The Masculinity of Rome was a Gay Masculinity and Jesus was not Part of it.