Topic: The Jesus Thread - page 2. (Read 322 times)

To me about Jesus and his history I don't descrimate any religious believe because many things has happened which most people' can't keep records on,about Jesus being a gay is what I can't say or discuss about, because many things has happened in the past,so we dont talk anyhow  so that we cant be judge at anywhere,though am not a Christian but let's investigation wisely.

There is an Argument that Jesus is maybe a Sorcerer, and Things like that, a Wizard, someone that is in Control of Demons as like someone that has Released a Demon from a Brass Lamp of Goetia (that is where the Genie in the Lamp comes from, and Larger Literary and Biblical Gemetria and Things), but there are Arguments that Jesus was a Warlock or something, as when he is accused of Calling on the Demon Beelzebub, he says Basically that if a Leader, or Teacher, or Parent, is Called Beelzebub, then how much more will the Offspring be Called this. And I think we can all Argue that if Jesus was Close to God, he ought to be able to Command Demons.

Wouldn't a Demon in Hell, if encountering an Archangel who had come Down to Hell with a Message (For Example a Message that Judgement is here). Would the Demons not have a Respect for the Archangel, at Least Recognizing the Rank of the Archangel? Why would Jesus not have Power over Demons and Angels alike? If someone were going to be God, they would be God and Father of Angels, that would be the First Thing we would look to to Recognize God. God is the God and Father of Angels.

But the Point being that there is an Argument that Jesus is maybe some kind of Religious Master of another sort, but there is no Argument that he is some Insignificant Person, or that he is Famous for Carpentry or something like that. Jesus was what he was, he was not something else. If in 10,000 Years Jesus is Only Remembered by Carpenters and outside the Carpentry community no one knows anything about Jesus, all the Carpenters are still going to be like "Oh, Woah, no, there's a lot more to him.".

There is a Thread about Jesus Turning Water into Wine:

Everyone get all Your Questions in the Jesus Thread, because if we can get the SEO Maximized by Answering as many Questions as Possible, and that way also be a Good Resource, we can Start Showing up in Search Engine Results. And People can Learn about Bitcoin while Searching for Answers about Jesus on the Internet.

Isn't it Great that there is a Jesus Thread on Bitcointalk now?

Does anyone know of any Other Cryptocurrency Devs that have done such Extensive Bible Studies as Part of their Currency Program?

(I've been around the CryptoCommunity since Bitcoin was $5 each, and I can tell You it's just me, there is a Bible Coin but it might even be Dead now, and was not getting into all of this for sure)

More on Jesus:

Before Jesus the Kings of the World wanted to be like Hercules, Hercules was "The King of the City" if we Follow the Lineage of the Demi-God, the Original being Melqart from Carthage, Showing that Carthage actually had more Part in the Story of the Ancient World than we may Notice. But because Melqart can not be Studied Extensively (Carthage was Destroyed) we can look to Tyre where Hercules is the "King of the City" and the Temple of Hercules was something like a City Hall. I get into all of this to say that before Jesus there was:

Hercules and the 12 Labors

After Jesus, there was:

The 12 Stations of the Cross, and the 12 Disciples.

There are 12 Hours in a Day, 2x (This gets to 12 and -12). And 12 Months in a Year.

Jesus was not just some Random memorable Person, his Life Matches up with the Sky and many Things about the Sky. In China there is a Sky God, and the Son of the Sky, much like Jesus. Tianzi. Jesus is like this, like the Fallen Angels, like King David (who Killed a Giant to become Recognized, and then was Helped by Hiram from Tyre who was Related to the Giant). So King David is actually given his Palace by the City we are using to Decipher Hercules, and David is much like Hercules, King David and King Arthur both are, as well as Thor, these are all similar Kings, or Hercules Type Figures.

After Jesus, this was all completely Taken Over by Jesus. Jesus is the King to be like. And we can see actually that some of this Started with Buddhism, where the First Buddha was a King who decided to do Things Differently and not be so Horrible to his Subjects. In the same Vein of Mercy as Jesus, Buddha was a King that Other Kings wanted to be like, and Strive to be like to this Day. Jesus and Buddha share that. But most of this has been Taken Over by Jesus, and Previously belonged to Hercules. But it does not seem that Jesus came to Replace the Law, but to Fulfill it. In the Sense of Hercules as well as the Law of Moses.

I wasn't going to Argue with Your Bible Verse, I wanted You to Post it here so we could Talk about it.

But now You actually brought up a Great next Subject.

The Magic Battle Between Moses and Pharaoh, we usually see this as Magicians and their King Standing there, and this Happening in what would be "Pharaoh" the King's Court. But that is not what is Happening, and we can actually just get into the "Jots and Tittles" of Everything, and we can get into what was Happening there.

First,
Par'Oh is the Palace, there were Kings, King Tut, King Djoser, King Ramesses, these are Kings that Lived in the Par'Oh, the Par'Oh was something of a Palace Temple. They would have the Apis Cow Live there, and the kind of Scribes and Things of Thoth, who were the Royal Scribes, and then there were Twins that Lived there because they were believed to be Sacred, actually Midgets also were Part of Par'Oh and would announce when the King was Coming. So when People saw Little Midgets Coming around, like Dwarves, they knew that the King was Coming. And this was Part of Par'Oh, but if we want to Decipher what that was, we can look at Alexander the Great. Alexander has the Queen of Egypt Adopt him, and then he Dies and She Dies, and Ptolemy takes over. The Par'Oh is Gutted.

So the Magic Battle between Pharaoh and Moses can be Deciphered by what Ptolemy and Alexander made.

1. They made the Lighthouse.

2. They made the Library of Alexandria.

3. They made the Musaeum.

So from this we can see what the Par'Oh was, the Par'Oh was a Place with Books, and Artifacts, and those Books and Artifacts came together to Form a Government. The Government was Verified by the Books and the Artifacts, Bloodlines, and Ancient Responsibilities and Things. How People say they are Ready for the Kingdom, maybe "Kingdom made" You have heard, or Otherwise Prepared for the Kingdom of God, it is to know what You are supposed to be doing in this way. To be Working as Part of the Kingdom, or the Royal Family and Entities around it. This is the Par'Oh, and it is not just about Weapons and Power, it is about Books, and Bloodlines, and Knowledge is Power. It is about mtDNA, and what Substances and Parts of Nature, Your DNA Historically has Encountered. For example, what Trees and Fruits have Historically been "Your People's", and this contributes to something about Your DNA, and then there is a Connection Between Your People and that Fruit or Tree. It may be on the Flag, or on the Money in the Nation. But this goes for all the Facets of the Different Religions in the Ancient World, the Gods, in Egypt, in Greece, the Jewish Tribes, the Nations did Gods and Pantheons, the Jews had the Tribes and Recognized it all that way, but it was the same Thing.

And so Moses,
When Moses Writes from Adam to the Flood, all the way to Joseph being Sold into Slavery, and becoming Vizier of Egypt, just under the King, Part of the Par'Oh, just like Moses, who was Raised in the Par'Oh. Moses, was like Thomas Jefferson, and he was Writing to the Kings of the World, and the Nobles, and to his People, about his People, for his People, with the Help of the Dead, and the Benefit of a Royal Egyptian Education, being Raised in the Palace.

And they could not Defeat the God of Israel. In Fact, we then see a lot of Other Things Happen after Moses also. But to bring this around to Jesus, we can look at how the Par'Oh was Changed, Egypt was Changed, by Aristotle, Ptolemy, the Tyrant Aristotle Hired to Run the Library of Alexandria, etc. Egypt was Changed, and Jesus came not to much Time after that. Hannibal Barca Lived and the Art of War was Written by Sun Tzu after Alexander the Great, then Jesus was Born. And I would say we can look to the Bleeding Woman and the Hem of the Garment of Jesus, and Jesus himself saying it is about Believing. And we can see that an Ego is the Greek Word for Soul, and "I", it is Ego, it is "Myself", or when You Point at Yourself, is what "Ego" is. The Greek Soul. This is Similar to Faith, which is kind of like the Soul, but Faith is Different, Faith is where God Lives. Like the Breath of a Tree.

And when Jesus is Touched, She is Healed because of her Faith, like a Placebo Effect, but Science has shown that the Placebo Effect is REAL, like Magic, there are Even Hypochondriacs who give themselves Diseases. They don't need Bacteria and Viruses, their Own Belief is Strong Enough, and Placebo can Heal the same way. But Jesus says, "WHO TOUCHED ME?" and he knew that the exchange had Occurred between him and her.

What's there to talk about? Simply read it.

Thousands of scholars and translators are constantly testing the truth of the various Bible manuscripts. They have come up with nothing better than the Bible as it stands.

They even recognize the differences found in the Septuagint, and have incorporated many of them into the Masoretic.

The nice stories that are outside of the Bible might contribute to someone's understanding... if one can determine which of them are accurate, if any. Mostly, faith (like yours) in these other manuscripts is a frivolous thing. But we all have dreams and fantasies. So, it's okay, as long as you don't put your saving faith in them. But if you do, you won't have an excuse before God in the Judgment... because you were warned.

Moses writes about the Beginning, a time several thousands of years before his birth. How would he know about those things? He had way more info than we presently have... info from the writings and files accumulated in Egypt, where he was a grand prince for several decades.

Even God concurred with Moses by doing the miracles that He and Moses decided on. Wake up and see the power that Moses had.

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In addition, consider the miracles that the magicians of Pharaoh did in Egypt, where they copied the miracles God did through Moses. But there were limits to the miracles they could do.

    But when the magicians tried to produce gnats by their secret arts, they could not. And the gnats were on men and animals.

    The magicians said to Pharaoh, "This is the finger of God."
    [Exodus 8:18,19]

As an aside, God tricked Pharaoh's magicians, and they might not even have realized what He did to them. The magicians had faith of sorts, even if it was based in sorcery. They proved it by copying and doing a few of the miracles that God had done through Moses. But God destroyed their faith by doing a miracle that the magicians didn't want to do. I mean, who wants gnats crawling around on yourself? Certainly not the magicians. So, the magicians were tricked into using their faith against their own faith, a principle that even Satan understood. Talking about Job:

    "Skin for skin!" Satan replied. "A man will give all he has for his own life. But stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face."
    [Job 2:4,5]

In other words, the magicians of Egypt didn't want gnats crawling on themselves. So, their own desires for good health interfered with their ability to copy the miracle that God did.

So, what is the work of God that Jesus is talking about below? The answer is shown right in the passages themselves.

    Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
    [John 6:9]

and

    This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
    [1 Timothy 2:3,4]

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So, play with the things that you want to play with. But when you decide to get serious, get into what the Bible says. There are even translations of the Bible into the various Indian languages.

I think You are Afraid of the Bible. Do you want to Talk about Your Bible Quote about the Invisible God now here?

The Bible doesn't really say any of the things about Jesus that are said, above. And the Bible is thousands of times stronger than any of the writings where that stuff comes form.

The above is nice chunks of 'science fiction', though. Play games with your mind. Something like a mild form of Dungeons and Dragons.

I made a Thread about the Angelicalist Movement, where we are Identifying who the Angels are from the Bible, for the First Time in World History. And someone wouldn't Stop Talking about Jesus, so I am Creating this Thread to be the Jesus Thread. Because we can also Talk about Jesus.

I Explained how Jesus is an Angel, we could go to Thomas and what Jesus asked the Disciples, saying "Who am I like", to which they Responded, "You are like a Wise Philosopher" the next said "You are like a Just Angel", Thomas said, "I don't know" and Jesus took him aside, and when he came back the Other Disciples asked what he said, and Thomas told them that Jesus said that if he told the Others what he had said, they would all Throw Stones at him, and the Stones would go back at them and Burst into Flames.

But we can look at Jesus as Androgynous, that is the Word for what Jesus is. Like David Bowie, or 80s Hair Bands with Leather Pants and Leopard Prints. Jesus is an Androgynous Person, he is not like the Gay Macho Romans who are all Sucking Each Other's Dicks and saying Men are Strong like them. Jesus is a much Different kind of Man, a much more Feminine Man. Not Gay, in fact the Opposite of the Gay "Strong Men" of Rome.

Jesus is Spirit more than the Rest of the Humans, and Flesh though.

Jesus is Feminine more than the Men, the Teachings of Jesus are not for any Gender. We could also Probably Start Studying the Languages in this way, because the Jots and Tittles are actually Alive, the Words are alive, the Punctuation is Living. So we need to look at what is being said in what Language, the same way that Jesus is Teaching to Women and Men. Jesus might as well be Teaching Women if we want to say it and Keep anyone from saying this is somehow like LGBTQ because it is not. Jesus was not Teaching for Men. But then we are Ignoring that Jesus is saying, "Give up that Gay Strong Man Attitude, and You can be like me, I am a Man".

Jesus is Word and Flesh.

Jesus was Hated by Rome and Israel.

Jesus was in the Midst of Several Languages and People Groups.

Jesus was in the Middle, the Cross-Roads, the Hekka, where Hekate comes from, Magic, that is where Jesus was. And Everyone said he was Basically a Pimp, that was pretty much what they said in Rome as Everyone said the Women were all Prostitutes that he was Teaching. And if we look at Hermeticism, the Hermit who would Study in the Cave, like John the Baptist who was Jesus' Cousin and Teacher. The Hermit and Hermeticism are connected, and the Hermit is now the Scientist in Modern Times, like an Alchemist, Cooped up in a Lab, Trying to Figure out why Tadpoles do this or that or whatever. But in Both the System of Ancient Greek Gods, and in Modern Scientific and Secular thinking, there is still that Image of the Person Buried in a Book, the FBI even looks for this when People Grow Beards and don't Brush their Hair and they've been Reading Books, and Particularly they are looking for People Reading the Quran since September 11th.

But Jesus is in the Center of Various Things, he is Talking to Gentiles, in Fact Claims to be the Savior of the Gentiles, these Things are all Very important.

And then also he was a King, Jesus was not a Bum, Jesus was Part of a Perfume Industry, and Fishing Industry, Fish Glue as a Carpenter, and Magdala because of Mary Magdalene. This gets into the Temples around Lakes, with Dea Syria the Fish Goddess, which connects back to the Sphynx and the Temples around Lakes with the Sphynx in Egypt, this all connected by a Perfume Industry between Egypt and Galilee. Then Jesus, a Baby who King Harod wanted Dead, who Fled to Egypt, and Lived in the City where the Egyptian King List, Aegyptiaca, was Written: Sebennytos.

Then Serapis has the Heiroglyph for T on his Head, Serapis is a Human form of Apis, Apis is a Cattle who is a Sin Sacrifice, and is Worshipped in the Egyptian Temple Palace, Par'Oh, for a Year before being Killed as a Sin Sacrifice. Ptolemy came after Alexander, and Apis as made into a Human, Serapis. And he has an Egyptian Letter "T" on his Head. I am not saying that Jesus is a Myth made from Serapis, but like the Bronze Snake the Moses held up in the Desert, we need to Start to look at what the Cross meant before Jesus. And not just the One for Crucifixions, that also, but the Letter "T" and Things.