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Quote from: Jjewelle29 on June 02, 2019, 02:15:14 PM

Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

I think is a vice versa, sometimes you will win by your skills or strategy, sometimes you can win because you just lucky.

But it's more consistent if you will play for a longer time. In the long run, both are needed a bigger portion for your skills and strategy should be built up when you play poker. It's not mostly about luck because you will have to be a player that's full of strategies on your mind on how you will start bluffing and folding your cards. And with that said, luck will also play a role to it but you don't rely on it most of the time.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

I think is a vice versa, sometimes you will win by your skills or strategy, sometimes you can win because you just lucky.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

I will tell you from my own experience. If you don't know the basic rules, especially hands rankings and your chances of winning with this or that hand, you are going to lose more frequently than those players who do. I started playing poker with exactly that level of knowledge, I mean, almost zero. Still I was winning sometimes because of luck, but I was losing in over 90% of cases. It took me a week or so to learn those basic rules, and it took so long only because I was't doing that from morning till evening, but rather was spending around 2 hours daily on playing poker. I think, anyone can learn how to play poker in one day actually. And when you know the rules, as everyone else at the table, the most important factor is luck. From my experience I can say that I am not becoming better the longer I play, I'm just staying on the same level I was when I learned all the rules.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

I don't think so.
There are other card games that are skill based but poker is entirely luck.
Yes you can get away with small loses if you feel the probability is low enough to not to risk and if you believe you are losing but again you never know the outcome of upcoming card.

I doubt you fully understand poker. making your opponent think that you have a better card than them is not luck, knowing when your opponent is bluffing is not luck, playing mind games to your opponent by how you respond to his/her call is not lock. my point is poker is far for being pure luck it requires skill to make the best possible outcome of your card and compete professionally.

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Quote from: panjul07 on June 02, 2019, 05:49:24 AM

It applies on real poker game only, but it wont work on online poker game as we cant see the face of our opponent as well as their reaction while playing the game. I've been playing online poker game more than 10 years now, the only way to read my opponents is just by remembering their usernames and their way of playing. Some users are consistently playing with the same strategy all the time, so if we can remember them then it will be easier for us to decide what to do when we are playing against them. Of course it is not a guarantee that we will always win, but at least it help us to play safe.

This is so true, I am not playing poker that much but I discovered a mobile game which is Pusoy Dos by Zingplay. Most of the time, I am matched with the same opponents I played with and all I can remember is how he moved the cards and how he will play it. His moves varied on the cards but if you will look closely, it is the same strategy. I only play poker in the real casino but I don't know how it feels playing online, I mean I usually bluff with my reactions so that is hard with an online match. I hope I can use emojis with it..

This because the poker game online can be scripted and could be change they way that a computer should get higher chances on winning compared to the user playing poker? Well probably you are right but mind you that there are gambling sites now offering p2p playing games especially poker. So this is more like playing with a real users that also likes to play poker.

Wether online poker or playing it locally with the other poker players, it is still luck that works on one to win rather than a platform.or the strategy to win.

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Quote from: panjul07 on June 02, 2019, 05:49:24 AM

It applies on real poker game only, but it wont work on online poker game as we cant see the face of our opponent as well as their reaction while playing the game. I've been playing online poker game more than 10 years now, the only way to read my opponents is just by remembering their usernames and their way of playing. Some users are consistently playing with the same strategy all the time, so if we can remember them then it will be easier for us to decide what to do when we are playing against them. Of course it is not a guarantee that we will always win, but at least it help us to play safe.

This is so true, I am not playing poker that much but I discovered a mobile game which is Pusoy Dos by Zingplay. Most of the time, I am matched with the same opponents I played with and all I can remember is how he moved the cards and how he will play it. His moves varied on the cards but if you will look closely, it is the same strategy. I only play poker in the real casino but I don't know how it feels playing online, I mean I usually bluff with my reactions so that is hard with an online match. I hope I can use emojis with it..

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

The only skill that you are going to get here is how to deceive your opponent with how they look, people are looking for reactions on how they handle their cards, and this is what they've learned, they learn how to become a face reader and at the same time learn jow to cover thjeir reactions

It applies on real poker game only, but it wont work on online poker game as we cant see the face of our opponent as well as their reaction while playing the game. I've been playing online poker game more than 10 years now, the only way to read my opponents is just by remembering their usernames and their way of playing. Some users are consistently playing with the same strategy all the time, so if we can remember them then it will be easier for us to decide what to do when we are playing against them. Of course it is not a guarantee that we will always win, but at least it help us to play safe.

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Quote from: icalical on January 04, 2019, 08:23:09 AM

Poker is absolutely a skill play, and I think most of the card game needs skill, and still, there is luck involved, but come on there is always luck involved in all kinds of game. Most of the time in Poker you will get a bad card, I think you will only got a really good card in 1 out of 10 games. So, decision making is the key. You should analyze other players behaviour, and maintain your money management is also important.

Agree, you will become better if you have skills is used and its is an important that you have it. But if we look for the longer you play poker probably it is true, because you know already some strategy you would apply everytime you play. And your always on presence of mind, and were not based on luck only.

There are times that players depend on luck but most of the time, it is their skill.

As far as I know, this is still in debate but for me, it is based on skill, experience, and knowledge you earned from playing for a long time. You can intimidate your opponents with your bluffs, you might also be able to read your opponent's card based on his movements or sign languages though it may be their bluff and that makes strategies more important in poker.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on June 01, 2019, 08:59:37 PM

Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

The only skill that you are going to get here is how to deceive your opponent with how they look, people are looking for reactions on how they handle their cards, and this is what they've learned, they learn how to become a face reader and at the same time learn jow to cover thjeir reactions

Most of those good bloopers wins around this game, they've learned from it from time to time, the longer they play the game the better they hide their emotions, conditioning can be learned when you keep playing the game.

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Quote from: icalical on January 04, 2019, 08:23:09 AM

Poker is absolutely a skill play, and I think most of the card game needs skill, and still, there is luck involved, but come on there is always luck involved in all kinds of game. Most of the time in Poker you will get a bad card, I think you will only got a really good card in 1 out of 10 games. So, decision making is the key. You should analyze other players behaviour, and maintain your money management is also important.

Agree, you will become better if you have skills is used and its is an important that you have it. But if we look for the longer you play poker probably it is true, because you know already some strategy you would apply everytime you play. And your always on presence of mind, and were not based on luck only.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

The only skill that you are going to get here is how to deceive your opponent with how they look, people are looking for reactions on how they handle their cards, and this is what they've learned, they learn how to become a face reader and at the same time learn jow to cover thjeir reactions

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Quote from: michellee on May 20, 2019, 08:19:12 AM

When we are playing poker for a long time, we will become a rush person because it is hard to see the reality, especially if at that time, we are only getting lose. I don't think that the longer we play poker will improve our skills because skill in the poker it does not depend on the longer we've played but how hard we can learn more about the poker game. When you are playing poker in the PvP, you will meet more people who have good skills in poker, and you will not win from them if you don't learn more lesson about poker.

There is a simple rule and that says that the more you do something, the more skillful and experience you gain. I think that it is not bad to do so often for it makes you pass through many different situations in which you think about using and formulating different formulas for winning the game. A kind of mental exercise that pays off in the end.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

I don't think so.
There are other card games that are skill based but poker is entirely luck.
Yes you can get away with small loses if you feel the probability is low enough to not to risk and if you believe you are losing but again you never know the outcome of upcoming card.

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Our experience will give us an advantage over the others in any game, especially for card games. I supposed to believe that luck is very important but somehow it needs more skill to make it very effective and has a high percentage of winning. If we don't have these two, it makes hard to win the jackpot price nor losses are very near to us.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

Its a mix of skill and luck. The longer you play, the more you learn how to play the game. No poker game is the same, always you will meet a new player with a different style of playing. Even if its the same person, that player may apply a different strategy on the next game. Evem if lady luvk is at your side, if you dont have the skills and know the strategy, you will be beaten by someone with a card not as great as you are holding.

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Quote from: Karonack on January 03, 2019, 10:31:18 PM

What do you think can be a consistent winning player on this game? is this game of skills or luck?
the longer you play more skills you get?

In my own opinion, the consistency of winning player on gambling games is their skills. Why?, because the longer they played the game they learned the strategyon how to win that game. Skills is very important in gambling, observation is the key to manipulate the game. I do not believe in lucks when it comes to gambling its your skills when you think you can won or not.

Skills do play an important role in winning in poker (to be specific) since it involves manipulation and card speculation. But regardless of that, I personally believe that luck plays a larger role than skill. If playing poker would garner you the skill and experience, then many would be millionaires right now. Gambling was designed in a way that luck would be a factor but LUCK will be the main determinant in the game.

Quote from: michellee on May 20, 2019, 08:19:12 AM

When we are playing poker for a long time, we will become a rush person because it is hard to see the reality, especially if at that time, we are only getting lose. I don't think that the longer we play poker will improve our skills because skill in the poker it does not depend on the longer we've played but how hard we can learn more about the poker game. When you are playing poker in the PvP, you will meet more people who have good skills in poker, and you will not win from them if you don't learn more lesson about poker.

That is true. No matter how many games you played poker, if the odds are not in your favour then you will definitely lose in gambling. I consider it the way gambling was made in general since it lets you believe that you actually learn from it. But in fact, in only lets you stay in the game and thus making you gambling again due to its addicting factor.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on May 15, 2019, 11:00:16 AM

Even if how skilled you are on playing poker, if you dont have enough luck to win then your skills will be nothing. For me, poker needs luck and strategy at the same time, not also skills needed here, luck is always a good partner when it comes in every type of gambling.

If talking about gambling everybody knows to won gambling it required luck but slightly different to poker game especially PvP when you against people around the world with skill it will slightly boost your luck because many factor to determine win every game on poker game and also during playing poker you have to prepare your mentally well because sometimes you will find the players who very dare to bluffing although they have bad cards

of course such events often occur in poker games, they do such bluffs because they have strong confidence in playing. in addition to the skills we have in playing poker, we must also be able to prepare mentally strong so as not to be easily affected by the snapping that can be done by people who play in it

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Quote from: Malsetid on May 20, 2019, 02:43:33 AM

Yeah, if you think luck plays a bigger part in poker, then clearly you don't play poker lol. I consider it more of a sport than a gambling game that relies mostly on being lucky. Poker players very seldom hope for a good hand and try to make strategies out of whatever hand they get. Try watching professional poker games. It's about reading your opponent and making them commit mistakes.

Yes, skills do is needed with playing poker. The impossible is happening, I enjoy watching those professional poker leagues. Strong hands are losing while the weak ones wins.

How is that possible? well bluff is the key and as said, you should be able to read your opponent's next move and on how they react with your move too. I'm not a professional poker player but I know how to play and I actually did those bluffs in real tables.

People at poker become more better player when they get more experience and have hand on the game. So strategy and experience is what makes the player better at Poker and thus it is true to great extent that longer and effective you learn more better player you are in the poker.

Experience will teach you a lot of things not just in poker but also in life. Well, back to poker discussions yes, you will learn a lot from those mistakes and experiences you had with it. From the techniques on how you should react when someone all in from the very start.

Experience, wise decisions, strategy, and other improvement related will come to your way as you play poker longer.

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Skills and luck are both needed in gambling. If you’re really lucky at this thing then good for you. If you’re not lucky but you strive hard to learn and master gambling then good for you as well but there are these people whose both lucky and skilled and I think that they are the lucky ones because luck is not enough in gambling and sometimes your skill can’t make you win. The more you make one thing a hobby or an everyday activity the more you get better doing it. It’s the same in gambling or generally in life.

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When we are playing poker for a long time, we will become a rush person because it is hard to see the reality, especially if at that time, we are only getting lose. I don't think that the longer we play poker will improve our skills because skill in the poker it does not depend on the longer we've played but how hard we can learn more about the poker game. When you are playing poker in the PvP, you will meet more people who have good skills in poker, and you will not win from them if you don't learn more lesson about poker.

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