Topic: The madness of gambling addicts. - page 24. (Read 15791 times)

No excuses at all, they made that mistake they need to suffer out from it. Though we continue hearing or reading cases like this there's nothing that a gambler can do if they fall to this kind of situation, as there are emotions that push them and lead them to make something unexpected realizing it after the crime they've committed.


Yup, not generalizing but most of those who suffer from addictions are types of gamblers who can't control their emotions, they are being control and dominated by gambling inside them and they are doing things which is unusual.

Yes, in fact that is what they see in the government, but I couldn't say for sure what would actually happen, I think there would be many deaths from overdoses, and that is what they perhaps want to avoid, and it is difficult, because In society, a series of events can occur that can be unfortunate and cause the loss of many things, not only lives but also people who really are not very well mentally and start taking drugs because they will be dangerous health conditions. , it could be a solution, but what you say makes a lot of logic, the worst thing is the side effects, which will be disastrous.

I think that the USA has been maintaining a policy of very extensive freedoms, I don't know, maybe it could be because we are living in a time where things are happening because they have to happen like this and things are being revealed that before we saw them almost as a taboo, only that drugs have such a harmful effect on people that that is what is not recommended, I also assume that each of us is responsible for our actions, there the biggest problem would be in the adolescents who have access.


I think that the most difficult thing will be the effect they can have on the children, parents have to talk to them a lot, be very jealous with them in that sense, it is something that we must take care of.

Despite the disparity you have noted, when an addicted gambler commits a crime due to his addiction he will be treated like a criminal not minding the reason he committed the crime. Remember there is no justification for committing a crime. An incident happened in my state where a gambler after losing, beat up one of the workers in a casino and he was arrested. Sometimes addiction can make a person commit a crime no wonder some countries in their wisdom to prevent gambling-related crime, prohibited gambling activity in their country.

It will be imperative to note here that some gamblers do not have self-control and disciple which are two attributes needed to be a responsible gambler. When an individual has self-control, he will not commit a crime no matter how much he loses and he will not even exceed his limit because gambling doesn’t control him but rather he controls his gambling.

This is a horrible calamity for our youth, our nations' future. Smugglers mainly care about money, right? The terrible fact that some of those charged with stopping this are involved? Disgraceful. Absolutely shameful. We must fight this fiercely.

No, legalising drugs will never work. Like saying, if you cant beat them, join them. Wrong! Strengthen enforcement, increase penalties, and cut the money supply. No profit, no incentive. Business is straightforward.

These are our kids, the future leaders, innovators, and creators. We let drugs ruin them? I refuse. Fight back. Resisting this plague makes our nations great again. This fight is for our civilization's future, not just today.

When this kind of thing becomes illegal almost all over the world, they can still smuggle it in various ways and that is a huge amount of money for them. In fact, it is not uncommon for the authorities who are supposed to eradicate this to be involved in it, which is natural because they will get huge amounts of money from this illegal business. I agree with you that there is no peace with things that destroy the brains of the younger generation like this drug. You are also right, legalizing it would only make things work better for them and it would seem like they are doing the right thing if this is legalized.

I really agree with what you say, we should fight this because this will make a future that should be good become a bad future. Moreover, their targets are young people. We know that young people are generational assets whose youth is destroyed by drugs, so that will make them have a bad future and that will have a big impact on development in the country or even the world.

Not the best example my friend. Alcohol does not kill as much people as drugs do. And I will never follow the idea of making drugs legal as a way to fight black market. In this case, I would prefer to be more radical and completely eradicate drugs and all who are related to it. Why do you think that if drugs would be legal, it will stop underworld and their money flow? It will only make their money flow legal. Opposite thing will happen to "underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.» - they will do even more money, because they will do it white. Also, making it legal means making it more available and affordable. It will kill people faster.

An easy way to find out is to look at the prohibition in the US.

For years they banned the sell of alcohol in the US.

This created a massive black market, with gangs making a lot of money.

People still got their alcohol, but they paid their money to the underworld, plus any kid could easily buy it as they don't ask for ID.

The easiest way to stop the black market was to make it legal. That way you can actually regulate it.

Now the black market of alcohol in the US is almost non-existent in comparison to the legal one. Plus the government can tax it, and get money from it, regulate it so that kids don't get access to it, etc.

It's as simple as supply and demand.

People want drugs, that won't change. Just make them legal and the underworld will not be able to make money off drugs.

This makes me remember that there is a law that is being debated in Colombia, we all know that Colombia has a lot of fame regarding drugs, from Pablo Escobar, the Toad Cartel, among other things, that still exist in Colombia, now The new president proposed a bill where he wants to legalize Cannabis, cocaine and among other drugs, this in order to end addictions with drug trafficking, where each person has the right to consume a fraction in mg of a certain drug, where it is not punishable or anything like that, many have not wanted this to happen, because it would expand the degree of addiction in the world, happening primarily in Colombia, I don't know what effect it could have or if I find it a positive effect to this, but it is something that is not common, it is something that is not normal, however these things can happen in many ways according to the interpretation of many people, if you ask me, I do not agree why the drug It has brought many ugly things to many people and even death, it is something that is not very good, but since now in the world there are so many freedoms and things that seem unpleasant to me are legal, well I do not know now how to deal with these types of things nor do I know what Think now, the only thing is that I will educate my children to instill in them those values that to taught me.

I don't know if this drives addicts more crazy, but the style of these laws is a double-edged sword and I don't know if in the end they help or make addicted people worse.

You can die from consuming pretty much anything.

Even drinking too much water too fast can kill you.

I don't think that is a good metric for banning substances.

There was a paper published in the lancet about substance damage to the user and society. Beer and tobacco were way higher than cannabis for example, yet they are legal and cannabis illegal (in some places).

I'm looking at this from the other side, and maybe I'll set the record straight, on the other hand I quite agree with you that it depends on the country itself, I mean it depends on the laws and regulations in a country, but as far as I know anything that can harm yourself and also even has the potential to harm others as a result of your actions then it should be prohibited, let's focus on the idea of "harm" which is that drug addiction and gambling addiction are both harmful, right? Yes, and both have the potential to make other people especially those around them spread this type of virus which of course can increase the population of addicts.

So if we look at it from the disadvantage side then obviously all countries should ban it, it's not about crime but more about activities or bad habits that can be detrimental, but on the other hand maybe I would say that drugs and gambling are habits that can lead to some criminal acts, and maybe you already know about how desperate gamblers and drug addicts are when they don't have money to realize their desires which is not uncommon for us to see and hear in some news media that many have to steal, rob and cheat to get money in order to finance their bad habits.

That's true, because most countries probably don't allow people to consume drugs because there are laws regarding drug use. If you are addicted to drugs, you can be in trouble with the law, which of course will have consequences such as going to prison for a certain period of time or something else. It's true what you say, maybe the authorities like the police won't care if someone is addicted to gambling, unless they commit criminal acts, such as stealing and robbing. but in my opinion there are times when gambling can also become a problem with the police, because some countries also do not allow gambling activities. with gambling addiction, in my opinion, it will be difficult to recover, even with the help of people who are experts in healing their thinking, because people who are addicted to gambling have problems with their thinking and mental health, so it's not a physical injury but a mental one. and with drugs they won't be able to recover easily, of course if they want to recover they have to be able to resist the urge to use drugs, which in my environment is called "sakau".

What is clear is that in my opinion, addiction to these two things is equally bad, there is no benefit to be had, the things that can happen are bad things, mentally damaging. Addiction to these two things can lead them to mental damage and can make them crazy or have a mental disorder, of course, if it's like that then the chances of recovery are almost non-existent. Maybe it's true that in order to recover they have to get support from their family, no matter how bad we are, it seems like family will still help to lead to something positive.

That would depend on the country but I get what you're saying.

Drugs are seen as a criminal offense, whereas they really are a health related issue.

I think there's a lot of historical things that made it like that.

Portugal for example changed all these laws and treats drug use as a health issue and not a criminal one.

Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

There is a wide difference between drug addiction and gambling addiction. A rich person can choose a good clinic to cure his drug addiction if he wants. Many things can be arranged to serve him. He is also easy to identify but identifying an addicted gambler can be very difficult. Especially if he doesn't understand his addiction well. Gamblers also know that gambling is viewed socially negatively, which makes them reluctant to share their addiction with others. As a result, there is no way to understand that he is addicted. While the drug addict gets rid of his addiction or may not but the gambling addict does not get that benefit. For this an addicted gambler has to make his own decisions. However, drug addiction or gambling addiction both are difficult for the poor to recover from that position.

No kidding but first your finances then your health both mental and physical, you need to balance and that's the things that being broken when a person become addicted, they don't have that right decision but only to please both lust and desire of gambling, everything inside their mind is on how they continue to play and bet, the balance is already polluted and in order to turn it back, they need to have self-wil and help to every resources that can get,

if the level of addiction is still lite self-will and can push it to change their direction but if the addiction is already high, the person already needs help with their love ones to the point that they also needed professional help and especially thier own self-will to accomplished bringing the balance back.

Gambling messes up your life, or you yourself are confused and cannot manage your gambling activities well, so that gambling becomes a factor that disrupts your financial condition and life balance.

It's true, family is the key that can help someone recover from addiction. However, it is very unfortunate that a gambling addict has disappointed his family, so that they (family members) lose respect, trust and concern for everything that happens to that individual. So in this case, the one who can save the individual from his addiction to gambling is himself, or maybe he doesn't really care about what happens to him.

Therefore, for those of you who are currently still surrounded by good people, who still trust and care about you, never have the slightest intention of disappointing them, but maintain that trust carefully because they are the ones who will help us. when we are in a quite difficult situation.
If we lose money in gambling, maybe we can find it back easily, but when we lose the trust of the people closest to us, it will be quite difficult for us to rebuild that sense of trust. Because we have disappointed them and left trauma behind us.

there is question that I want to ask you have we in any way quench gambling additive or have we in any way I have all provides a solution that will eradicate gambling addictive? The answer is no, because many people today gamble and they don't know when they are addicted in gambling, so to quench gambling addict will be veer difficult to eliminate because many people is not aware that they are addicted in gambling, while they are addicted, if someone have not informed you concerning gambling you will not know that you are addicted in gambling.

That's very nice, but in the event that a player does not have a family, suppose he lives in a distant country, where he communicates with his family through calls, or whatever, how would it be done in that case? because people sometimes can't be there on a personal basis, because sometimes circumstances don't allow it, or in the house I have a friend from Belgium who is alone, doesn't have a family or anything, like a person would do to get support? It's very difficult, so this can be a solution for those who have families, for addicted players with families and for those families to be united, not disfunctional, because there are also dysfunctional families who, even if they see that someone is breaking up, they don't give them It doesn't matter, but defend yourself as best you can, sometimes even families are home to many problems, so this is something that should always be considered.


Family support for people who have a family and who follow that criterion, but for a person who is usually alone, they have to adhere to what the professional says, in that case I would say that the addicted player must have a very strong temperament so that You have the discipline of doing things as the specialist tells you, but it is difficult because sometimes this can turn into depression and that is another problem, it is delicate, I would say that sometimes it is preferable to admit a person to a clinic that receives 24-hour advance notice.

Psychotherapists as you suggested are the first set of people to visit in such situations, but not all can afford a session with them, what would be the healing process for such people. However, family is the cheapest source of recovery the gambler would have, like a first aid, before enough money is made available for healing. The gambler may have lost lots of money in his gambling process, before he got addicted.

Hence, his family should watch him closely and endeavor that he gets the help he deserves, if he's not interested in the therapy his family got for him, then the whole process would be a waste of time. In a condition where the gambler sets in on a mission to destroy the family due to his urge for gambling. Following him up with any resource available is very crucial. Many gamblers who were neglected during their period of wrong behavior, ended up hurting their family. And whenever such thing happens, it leaves a big mark on the emotions of the gambler's family member, and they'll never have to love a gambler, a stigma for gamblers would be developed. 

Yeah, gambling can really mess things up, especially your wallet story
Just 'cause you got cash doesn't mean you should go all in, you know? It messes with your head and can leave you stressed out and broke. Gotta handle those losses like a champ.
 Family is key in the recovery game, they gotta have your back. And yeah, expert help like shrinks or therapists can be a game-changer. It might cost a pretty penny, but - investing in your well-being is worth every cent!