Topic: The madness of gambling addicts. - page 25. (Read 15791 times)

Maybe that could happen, maybe for rich people they can easily find a clinic for healing or rehabilitation, also I think rich people won't hesitate to spend even a lot of money for health, but if they don't care at all maybe they won't. will do my best. When it comes to covering debts, I think there are reservations for this rich family, because of course when it comes to money, I think everyone is sensitive, so there is a possibility that they won't pay all the debts they have.

When this happens to poor people, for example, if I was born to poor people and was addicted, of course I would leave the house, because I didn't want my family to be burdened by me, the debt I had had to be paid off by looking for a good job. can make money, but of course this is just my opinion, because maybe for those who are seriously addicted they won't care about what's around them even if it's their family. Someone who is addicted to gambling is likely to experience a change in attitude, and this change is a change that leads to the negative side, such as becoming more stubborn and tending to be bolder in taking risky actions.

It's true, gambling is a scary thing. If it happens, life can be destroyed, especially financially. Even though we have a lot of money, it doesn't mean we can gamble as we please. Basically, gambling can affect our thinking which can make us stressed if we not smart in doing it, with defeat that is bound to happen, it absolutely must be digested well, so that big losses don't occur. indeed the role of the family is an important thing, in this case of course the family needs to accompany those who are in the process of recovering from their addiction, if the family really cares then I think they will not hesitate to help, no matter how bad we are in the eyes of other people, but we can still be accepted in the eyes of the family.
get expert help? Is it like a psychiatrist or psychologist?
because I think with those who are addicted to gambling they have problems with their thinking and they may need expert help such as a psychiatrist or psychologist, only this may cost a lot. But of course, if it's for healing and goodness, there's no harm in spending a lot of money, if you can afford it and have it.

Also its important to understand that gambling addiction, like alcoholism and over-eating does not come by itself and in short period of time. Person can turn into gambling addicted after a month of gambling. A person must have real reasons to connect his life with gambling so much, to make it run from hobby>routine>addiction life-cycle. Impossible to cure a person who does no understand there is a problem and should do something about it. Ending friendship (if friends are the source of gambling or reason) and moving to other place to live isnt a solution. Visiting psychologist perhaps is the first step to be done.

If the desire for gambling cannot be resolved or disputed the things might become very serious and we might not be able to to quench the gambling addictive. Making money in betting has made many people so see gambling as an alternative and sometimes they might not be able to stop or quench such a zeal to gamble more because they always get profits from it. This has been a big problem for many people and we need to know how to solve it with a good approach or else it might be very difficult for us to rectify such an addiction.

We must understand that the disease of addiction, especially gambling addiction, lies in the human brain and mind that has difficulty avoiding bad habits, even though basically it is a bad habit like gambling but if basically they always want to do it then obviously this means that curing someone who is addicted is difficult in the sense that in their hearts they still really want to gamble. So actually it doesn't matter how rich you are if the addicted person still has a high interest in gambling activities then it is clear that it will be difficult to cure even if you take the person to a psychological expert or wherever you think you can cure him.

And the meaning of curing addiction is very simple "if the person really has a strong intention and determination" to avoid the bad habit, and also what makes it difficult is like you said that there are some addicted gamblers who do not admit to others or especially their families that they are in the addiction phase and in my opinion they are one of the gamblers who enter the addiction phase without realizing it, so I think it's just a matter of time and usually a gambler will be able to really have a strong intention and determination to stop when they have experienced very bad things that can traumatize them.

I know it's easy for the rich but it's also dependent on some factors too even if the person is rich because the sole decision I believe lies on the gambler or addict himself because most addicts don't know and fail to admit also that they are addicted when it comes to gambling or drugs and if that kind of person is offered help he might definitely return to his old habits because he isn't ready to let go .

Without going too far, the purpose of a forum is to contribute, to help for free, but we also realize that here in the forum there are people who seek to put a stop to it so that they can step on top of others and of those There are many, so it may be that you get a better remuneration or who knows what, get personal Satisfaction, But if we look at it, each one of us has our own problems. Those problems in some people vary a lot, from financial problems , personal , and even Health , those in Saudi who are very fortunate with terminal illnesses is what we do not know, and many take refuge in a photo to be able to feel free, so Before a person gets involved with anyone else they should know that each one has their own own way, and we don't know them, so when helping someone, no matter what it is, sometimes a single word is enough for that person to feel peace , because you have to give it.

So we all talked about the craziness of an addiction , what we can do, try to help, as you say there are many requests for advice in a Silent way that are provided in the forum, and the addiction I have seen, there are many topics that go towards the direction of addiction  , what it means for me is that there are many people going through this unpleasant condition, so any advice follows the personality of each Person, it can help , sometimes it can save lives, that is why it is so important to help .

Honestly, I don't what can I add to this list. Maybe the desire of gambling addict to be cured? Because without this desire nothing can help actually. And if this desire is strong enough, gambling addict can be cured by himself alone. It's very important to understand that gambling addiction is a weakness, very similar to alcoholism and over-eating.

What about the cases when rich people try and do drugs just because they are bored? No matter how much money then they later spend on rehab, they still return to them. With drugs it is different. It depends on how the person was raised. If was let to do anything he wants, then no rehab is going to help him. With gambling addictions, I dont know and cant imagine how any clinic is going to help. Are there really pills that helps to resist gambling?

Right. The problems of drug addiction and ludomania are very different for families with different incomes. For the rich, it is easy to solve such a problem, they will easily find a good clinic, they will easily close the debts of a relative dependent on games. And in the end, everything will be fine if the gambler himself wants to fix his life for the better.
But for the poor, such a problem is very harmful, because they have nothing to cover the debts of a troubled relative, let alone afford expensive treatment.

Your viewpoint reminds us that our existence depends on what we give, not what we get. I've seen in person the great gratification that comes from helping others. You're right - altruism is the foundation of a happy life.

Yes, the forum is full of silent requests for help. I think identifying these latent requirements requires proactiveness. Even simple advice can save someone in their worst hour. Helping others grows a garden of happiness in our own life.

The idea that life always rewards our good efforts with direct or indirect favors is comfortable but suspect. Life's ledger isnt always right. Uncertainty shouldnt deter us. Beyond financial prosperity and personal success, our legacy is the people we've affected.

First, addiction is a terrifying monster that doesn't care about your family's finances. The idea that money can'solve' addiction is false. Addiction is about the individual, not the purse. Wealth can cushion certain blows. The family role? Unquestionably essential. They provide first defense and support. Instead of being a watchdog, be a light of hope and help before the storm becomes a hurricane. Every family, rich or poor, may see behavior changes early

Blaming the addict is pointless. Understanding, suporting, and getting expert help are key. A collective effort. Remember, the goal is to empower the person to overcome addiction, not hide it

And I hope that it's just simply as how theory stated it, but it's not most of the time, maybe there are gamblers who got addicted and manage to cope up by doing that, just change their behaviors and they are already been cured, but most of the time, there's a big help that's needed aside from personal care there's also professional interventions if the level of addiction is already on the maximim side, there are many things that needed to address, factors that may help the person to re-assess his way of treating gambling and start changing his direction to help his ownself to quit away.


All will work if the they have same level of care, I see your point and it will really help to assess the authority of one person in a gambler's life, it will be helpful if the person really respect the person who's trying to help. The more he engage to that person the better chance that he might listen and start trying to follow his advise.

Family is important, but the most important is who has the authority in family. I doubt that in some countries, if father is a heavy gambler, he will listen to what his wife says. I would stress on the following, to be able to cure gambling addiction, one source of help (like family) is not enough. In must be a combination of methods. Family help, facilities (doctors), change of object of interest, influence of friends (maybe try to decrease their influence if they are gamblers).

If an addict is already troubling their family, it means they are at such a bad level that they involve others (even if it's their own family) in their problems. The response from the family will indeed vary, they might become super protective and some might even just let it go because maybe they already know and the person cannot be advised anymore. Usually an addict will not regret their actions as long as they have not realized their mistakes, they will even tend to make justifications, at all costs. The role of the family is very important in this case, the family is the closest person, unless those who have addiction are closed. But the family should have been able to realize his habits from the beginning, because there are usually changes in behavior and so on.
I often imagine, what if an addict comes from a simple family? Maybe for someone who has a rich family it can still help him (although there is nothing right in this), but when it happens to a simple family then the pressure will be even greater. It's a huge blow to have to solve a problem that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

They are behaviors more than illnesses in my mind, because you can't really just "get" an addiction.

You basically start doing a behavior that gets more and more intense over time. Every decision is made from the person, there's no "catching" an addiction like a cold or flu, or even cancer, etc.

The good news about it is that in theory you could simply change your behavior and you are "cured". Of course it is difficult, but it shouldn't require medical intervention in theory.

Each family has its own reaction to the discovery of a problem gambler in their family. Someone will start to panic and drag this player to clinics, where most likely the player will be locked up with drug addicts, greatly worsening the situation with his self-esteem, and relationships with others in general. This is the wrong approach and I highly condemn it. I believe that gambling addiction and drug addiction are completely different illnesses, and it is possible that gambling addiction is much worse.

And in some families they continue to give money to the gambler and pay off debts for him. And of course this is a mistake, the first thing that should be done is to make the gambler realize that he has made a huge mistake. And only when he understands everything psychologically, only then can you begin to correct his mistakes with him.

Well, the way you talk means to me that you are supported by a person who does like to help, but when you need help from others, no one gives it to you, and I think that has happened to a lot of people, well it has happened to many of us, But I think we have to start from that so that we don't get disappointed in those things, at least I'm very happy when I know that I'm helping a person, whether with words or whatever, but helping, do you know why? because that is the only thing that we practically come to this life to help, and to serve, because apart from that you have not realized that you help someone, with whatever it is, because it is a great satisfaction, I know that many people are not like that, but even when We feel that no one helps us and if we have a place to help, then in some way life rewards us, I say something, we will never be alone, sometimes a person can have a lot of money and be a multi-millionaire, but they don't have the health that we need. Also, they don't have the happiness that we still have even though they have so much money, because those things sometimes don't matter.

Here in the forum there are people who need help, they don't say it, but I know they need it, sometimes these types of topics are understandable because there are many ways of thinking and many ways of seeing the problems, but sometimes a piece of advice, no matter how It's silly that it seems, it helps, or can help someone get out of their addiction or that condition, in fact we are people at some point because we have to help, we have to serve others, and then we don't have to suffer, but through our children we could see those Blessings , or through our loved ones, that is something that goes away like that, but I have seen that people who act badly, in some way in the vine pay for it, and keep in mind Surely before dying you pay for the bad that you have done, and we don't know what comes after death, etnoncs the more we can help people I think that is the idea of this, of the thread, of the forum, of everything.

That's true, indeed if they are addicted to gambling and are really addicted then there is a big possibility that they could lose a lot of things, not just money. like you said, work, home, family, life. because in my opinion, if they become addicted, they will become bolder and more determined to do things that take big risks, because they only think about winning, when they don't have money to gamble, they can take actions that are beyond common sense which can harm other people. , like stealing, robbing is clearly detrimental to other people, but with their desire to gamble they cannot be restrained so that there is a big possibility that they can do this. in terms of financial problems, in my opinion, that is the main thing they definitely experience, because they only think about gambling, there is also a possibility that they can take out loans and when they have money they will not think about paying off their debts, most likely they will just go back to gambling hope that gambling can provide big wins so that their lives can change drastically and they can pay off their debts. Gambling addiction is a big problem, because your life will become messy, you will be in debt or restless when you can't gamble. So the impulse from their minds that only think about gambling can make them carry out unreasonable actions. really scary in my opinion.

In my opinion, these two things have the same negative impacts that are not much different, money, family, health, security. These are all things that can happen if they are addicted to one of these things, especially if they are addicted to both, their life may not be peaceful every day. Gambling can cause excessive stress which may damage us mentally so that we become mentally ill, the same as drug addiction. especially with drugs that are clearly consumed by oneself, which is very bad for your health. It is clear that any addiction can make them lose their world.

Yeah, this is so true.

There is no way a person can be helped when they don't wan to be helped.

Most people would be happy in theory to receive practice, but in practice they would continue in their own ways if they haven't decided to change.