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legendary
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July 18, 2023, 01:48:48 AM
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I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

The term professional simply means that you get paid for what you are doing. Otherwise it's a hobby.

So, a professional gambler is extremely rare. Only a handful of people have actually won money against the casino overall, once you count all the costs.

It's extremely rare, but it can happen.

Now, a lot of people just call themselves professional gamblers, but I think that's just part of the addiction.
Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.
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July 18, 2023, 12:43:38 AM
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I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

The term professional simply means that you get paid for what you are doing. Otherwise it's a hobby.

So, a professional gambler is extremely rare. Only a handful of people have actually won money against the casino overall, once you count all the costs.

It's extremely rare, but it can happen.

Now, a lot of people just call themselves professional gamblers, but I think that's just part of the addiction.
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July 17, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.

I guess the reason for this is that there is money addiction, greediness in gambling, which may not be in other forms of addiction.
Gambling addiction does not always have a negative impact on gambling addicts, those who are willing to do negative things to get some money have had an attitude that is not commendable long before they are familiar with gambling activities. Gambling addicts have a different attitude, some do disgraceful things in order to get money for gambling and some are professional by being ready to take their own risks without any intention of harming others.
Alcoholics have a harder time controlling themselves when they are drunk, while some gamblers are still conscious of what they have just done.
I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.
legendary
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July 17, 2023, 05:45:16 PM
The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.
Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.
If a person wants to gamble they need to make a fair evaluation of who they are, as I have known a lot of people that are very bad losers and as soon as things do not go their way they begin to do all kind of things which are way out of line for something that is just a recreational game, and if a person like that were to gamble then I have no doubts they will get into deep trouble relatively quickly as they will be unable to accept the fact that casinos will beat them most of the time.
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July 17, 2023, 04:52:21 PM
Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.
What's actually the point you're making here? Cus if I was able to read properly, the whole conjoined clauses aren't making any sense at the end.... atleast, that would have justified the whole story buh this is different.
Well, addiction is not a thing to be pretty much indecisive about.. whatever happens, be sure of what it's culmination would look like before getting indulged innit. "It's better to refrain from the fantasies in an early stage, than when it's only too late"

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July 17, 2023, 04:19:33 PM
The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.
Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

surely the majority of all gamblers have had thoughts like this, it's really humane but if it continues to be followed, it can lead to gambling addiction, recently a person in his 20s was caught for stealing a smartphone, when asked his purpose for doing that, he said to playing slots, here I am quite sad when I read the news, he is really desperate and very reckless, gambling should make players entertained instead of being a crime. if indeed we are getting worse because of gambling we should stop immediately, people who have poor self-control are not suitable for gambling.
legendary
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July 17, 2023, 07:23:42 AM
The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.
Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.
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July 17, 2023, 06:41:17 AM

You might compare a drunk person doing wrong things, and a gambler that is just so into the games that they are deciding to put more and more money in there to "recover" their losses.

It's a similar state really, where you are not thinking straight, and just want the benefit right now. In both cases most of the time you end up in a worse situation the next day after a day of bad decisions.

The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.

Betting in the name of winning back what you have lost is really a risky move. This is because, oftentimes, people are not in their best state after suffering several or consecutive losses. These gamblers do not possess the right and enough mental headspace to accommodate another stressor due to the previous strains from over thinking on how would they get their money. Hence, instead of having a good outcome, most of the times, they just suffer from another loss since they decided impulsively. It isn't really a good idea to have your losses or winnings as your driving force to bet or play despite the chances of you winning is low. It's pure stupidity and it reeks being irresponsible and oblivious of your behavior and not analyzing how it might affect you afterwards.
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July 17, 2023, 05:56:01 AM

You might compare a drunk person doing wrong things, and a gambler that is just so into the games that they are deciding to put more and more money in there to "recover" their losses.

It's a similar state really, where you are not thinking straight, and just want the benefit right now. In both cases most of the time you end up in a worse situation the next day after a day of bad decisions.

The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.
And yes, we can include this as a crazy addict, apart from the losses they chase, also on the other hand, crazy greed to get lots of wins so they behave all in or continue gambling without limits, and this is indeed done in a repeated manner every time. the times he gambled, but on average the most appropriate one was that he had won a very big win, which he had never expected before, or was motivated by the victory of his friend who got the maximum win, which made him keep on playing every day which burned his money, to do debt or sell what he has.
And yes in the end they does not find victory, and it's like the cycle of the gambler addict.
But yes, the drunkard and the gambler in my opinion are the same, they must have moments of awareness, because it is impossible for the drunkard to never stop, but when they get money they both want to take it out until he can't get drunk or gamble anymore because he's run out Money.
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July 17, 2023, 05:09:39 AM

You might compare a drunk person doing wrong things, and a gambler that is just so into the games that they are deciding to put more and more money in there to "recover" their losses.

It's a similar state really, where you are not thinking straight, and just want the benefit right now. In both cases most of the time you end up in a worse situation the next day after a day of bad decisions.

The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.
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July 17, 2023, 01:31:20 AM
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Gambling addiction does not always have a negative impact on gambling addicts, those who are willing to do negative things to get some money have had an attitude that is not commendable long before they are familiar with gambling activities. Gambling addicts have a different attitude, some do disgraceful things in order to get money for gambling and some are professional by being ready to take their own risks without any intention of harming others.
Alcoholics have a harder time controlling themselves when they are drunk, while some gamblers are still conscious of what they have just done.

You might compare a drunk person doing wrong things, and a gambler that is just so into the games that they are deciding to put more and more money in there to "recover" their losses.

It's a similar state really, where you are not thinking straight, and just want the benefit right now. In both cases most of the time you end up in a worse situation the next day after a day of bad decisions.
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July 17, 2023, 12:16:49 AM
People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.

I guess the reason for this is that there is money addiction, greediness in gambling, which may not be in other forms of addiction.
Gambling addiction does not always have a negative impact on gambling addicts, those who are willing to do negative things to get some money have had an attitude that is not commendable long before they are familiar with gambling activities. Gambling addicts have a different attitude, some do disgraceful things in order to get money for gambling and some are professional by being ready to take their own risks without any intention of harming others.
Alcoholics have a harder time controlling themselves when they are drunk, while some gamblers are still conscious of what they have just done.
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July 16, 2023, 11:45:01 PM
Everyone here is merely human, with feelings and impulses just like everyone else's. Because the pain of loss is magnified double compared to the pleasure of gain, loss aversion is innate. The battle isnt over after you put down your phone or computer; its happening in your head.

But here's an interesting idea to think about. Im wondering if you're familiar with the term "Emotional Intelligence." The key is learning to identify and control one's own feelings as well as those of others. Physical fitness may be improved, and so can mental fitness. Maintain a state of receptive awareness; meditate. Your responses to heartbreak will change as time goes on. Also helpful is keeping a trade journal. Keep a record of your accomplishments and failures alike. Never give up the battle, mate!
I've heard of "Emotional Intelligence," but I haven't studied it. Well, maybe I'm still in the stage of identifying and controlling my own feelings because the process will never stop as long as we are alive. Physical fitness can be achieved by exercising, and mental fitness can be achieved by being calm within us. And everything will be achieved at the same time when we can control ourselves well so that we won't feel too emotional when we get results from gambling.

And even though we have stopped gambling, there will surely be shadows of the previous games we played. And if our self-control is good, we will not be tempted to go back to gambling in the next few days. A gambler may not give up gambling, but what makes the difference is knowing when he is gambling and when he stops. That's a wise gambler.

Can one really be able to deal with such emotions after when you loss heavily?can you leave the casino hall and go to your house?its really difficult you know,but some persons still have that mind of forgetting it immediately and move on.Gambling addiction is something that has eaten into the lives of many,and they cannot come out of it,or will I call it greed,or the anxiousness in winning more that makes us not to go after winning,or loosing.It might be true that greed contributes to the reason why we don't go after winning because we want to win more and cover all the losses we've had for years,but it's never always possible to win just the way we think,the more you feel you gotten the tactics of winning,the more you experience loss.
Yes, it's very hard to forget the previous big defeat but whatever it is, we must keep trying. Otherwise, we will only make it difficult for ourselves because there will be an urge to return to gambling without stopping. We can only keep learning to control our thoughts so they don't invite us back to gambling, which is a process we must go through. Even though many people have failed to do so, that doesn't stop us from continuing to learn because that can help us get through difficult times in gambling, especially after losing. And if one wants to get out of gambling, one has to have the willpower to be able to say no even to oneself and go through the arduous process of not even thinking about gambling.
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July 16, 2023, 06:06:23 PM

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.
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Alcohol, substance, and gambling addictions, they all sometimes contribute to aggressive behavior of the person, behaviors, and decisions that could ruin their lives or others'. It is not limited to gambling addiction alone.

From the article shared by the OP, the 65-year-old grandfather could be in deep gambling addiction; he would never do what he has done if not.
It is not age limited but quite dangerous for underage gamblers who have been targets for some online gambling platforms years ago before proper regulation requirements. The addicted gambler can lose control over his emotions and gamble with the money he can't afford to lose. That is why there are so many beggars on casino chats looking for free tips after losing rent money on useless slots. It is what it is and only hard life lessons may change their perception of this industry, IMHO.
Some of those might be legit and some of those are fake and just pretending just to lure in for those winners or huge gamblers to be that in pity and would really be sending out some tips but actually it is one of the ways or methods on which those people would really be getting some money at least if they are lucky but most of the time on which gamblers wont really be that a fool on easily believing into those pretentious situations.
If ever it would really be that legit then its really that a sad situation but if not then i wont really be shocked anymore. You would really be definitely putting up yourself into such condition if you arent
really that too wary about the risks on which gambling do impose. You would really be ending up on getting wrecked if you arent that minding about its risks and this is why we should really be that careful.

End point still with how you handle your emotions, I can see your point about knowing the grounds and how you should take care of it before getting engage into gambling, knowing that there are many factors that may affect your gambling activities and knowing also the big risk behind this industry, you should assess and make sure to know more about it before getting inside or stepping inside, we read a lot of possible things to happen when a person can no longer control his gambling addiction a sad reality that really happening when a heavy addiction already being installed to a person.
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July 16, 2023, 04:56:25 PM

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.
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Alcohol, substance, and gambling addictions, they all sometimes contribute to aggressive behavior of the person, behaviors, and decisions that could ruin their lives or others'. It is not limited to gambling addiction alone.

From the article shared by the OP, the 65-year-old grandfather could be in deep gambling addiction; he would never do what he has done if not.
It is not age limited but quite dangerous for underage gamblers who have been targets for some online gambling platforms years ago before proper regulation requirements. The addicted gambler can lose control over his emotions and gamble with the money he can't afford to lose. That is why there are so many beggars on casino chats looking for free tips after losing rent money on useless slots. It is what it is and only hard life lessons may change their perception of this industry, IMHO.
Some of those might be legit and some of those are fake and just pretending just to lure in for those winners or huge gamblers to be that in pity and would really be sending out some tips but actually it is one of the ways or methods on which those people would really be getting some money at least if they are lucky but most of the time on which gamblers wont really be that a fool on easily believing into those pretentious situations.
If ever it would really be that legit then its really that a sad situation but if not then i wont really be shocked anymore. You would really be definitely putting up yourself into such condition if you arent
really that too wary about the risks on which gambling do impose. You would really be ending up on getting wrecked if you arent that minding about its risks and this is why we should really be that careful.
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July 16, 2023, 04:41:06 PM

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.
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Alcohol, substance, and gambling addictions, they all sometimes contribute to aggressive behavior of the person, behaviors, and decisions that could ruin their lives or others'. It is not limited to gambling addiction alone.

From the article shared by the OP, the 65-year-old grandfather could be in deep gambling addiction; he would never do what he has done if not.
It is not age limited but quite dangerous for underage gamblers who have been targets for some online gambling platforms years ago before proper regulation requirements. The addicted gambler can lose control over his emotions and gamble with the money he can't afford to lose. That is why there are so many beggars on casino chats looking for free tips after losing rent money on useless slots. It is what it is and only hard life lessons may change their perception of this industry, IMHO.
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July 16, 2023, 04:36:30 PM
it is difficult if someone is too comfortable in gambling which will end up being addicted it is difficult to stop and when they have the desire to stop and do more positive activities only their family can help. if we talk about addiction it will never end but how else sometimes many new people try gambling after that they are lucky to get big wins and from that someone will become addicted because they feel they are getting something big without realizing they will lose continuously when trying to bet and lose after that chasing losses.
Gamblers are desperate and willing to take any risk for the purpose to place wagers in the system. Loss is impossible to avoid; quantifying losses merely contributes to the instability of our emotions, regrets, and feelings of remorse for what we have done. Addiction is the most devastating incident that can happen to a gambler; it is one of the extreme levels that will undoubtedly result in losses and account liquidation. Gambling is simple to begin but extremely difficult to stop; I've come across numerous gamblers who tried everything they could to stop but couldn't, instead preferring to indulge in gambling further.

Unfortunately, gambling addicts resort to gambling as their way of coping mechanism. Instead of making their situation bearable, everything is just worse when this kind of event happens.

In order to fully address these concerns, we have to understand that gambling addiction is a mental disease that people are suffering. If we take it as a negative thing, this will just further complicate matters and we will only be selfishly helping ourselves rather than the persons affected.

I just hope that when dealing with a person suffering from gambling addiction, patience is the key in order to help them. They are suffering- we really have to extend our fullest concern and understanding in order to at least alleviate the situation.
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July 16, 2023, 04:30:48 PM
These are extreme level of madness. Here it have moved to the level of kidnapping his own grandson. With majority of the gamblers similar is the situation, but it stands within the family by promises. They could've promised to their closer ones not to gamble, but out of addiction they won't be able to control themselves. This causes problems within the family.

The old person doesn't have any choice, here the common gamblers have got more choices to arrange money to spend. If not, even the common gamblers into these kind of activities isn't a big surprise.

Well, it's very sad when it comes to these extreme cases, but it's a very real thing and it happens, when we as gamers see some things, we're like, wow, is this in relation to a person capable of doing it? And yes, they are very capable of doing it, I don't know, but I have seen cases in Colombia where, due to gambling addiction , they are capable of kidnapping and asking for rewards from their own families, assuring that the kidnappers are armed Groups, like the "guerrilla" that kind of things look a lot.

Now that the grandparents themselves come to kidnap the grandchildren , well the truth doesn't surprise me , sometimes money drives people crazy , and it doesn't make them think clearly, and it's sad , because there are many values that are lost and it's not So the idea , what is always sought is that there can be limits and respect , many people in addiction forget about this.

The problems caused by a person in addiction can be Multiple , because this is Something that must be controlled as soon as you have symptoms, start a treatment quickly so that it does not happen to the Elderly.
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July 16, 2023, 08:39:06 AM

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.
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Alcohol, substance, and gambling addictions, they all sometimes contribute to aggressive behavior of the person, behaviors, and decisions that could ruin their lives or others'. It is not limited to gambling addiction alone.

From the article shared by the OP, the 65-year-old grandfather could be in deep gambling addiction; he would never do what he has done if not.
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July 16, 2023, 08:19:01 AM
on the one hand, we are always reminded by other people, even the casino gives a warning that gambling responsibly prevents someone from chasing defeat. but nevertheless it is human nature that a sacrificial defeat will certainly make regret afterwards emotional and uncontrollable.
what's worse, if someone who can't control himself will become more addicted and become more crazy losing everything he has.
Greedy human nature that each of us must control so that we don't chase losses or even chase wins. But most people will try to chase losses because we are not used to seeing defeat after gambling so we keep gambling and recovering losses. And it's true what you say that a person cannot control himself when he experiences a loss because his emotions will peak and the desire to recover the loss will increase. When that couldn't be controlled, it was only a matter of time before he saw that person suffer a total loss.
Can one really be able to deal with such emotions after when you loss heavily?can you leave the casino hall and go to your house?its really difficult you know,but some persons still have that mind of forgetting it immediately and move on.Gambling addiction is something that has eaten into the lives of many,and they cannot come out of it,or will I call it greed,or the anxiousness in winning more that makes us not to go after winning,or loosing.It might be true that greed contributes to the reason why we don't go after winning because we want to win more and cover all the losses we've had for years,but it's never always possible to win just the way we think,the more you feel you gotten the tactics of winning,the more you experience loss.
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