Topic: The misused of merit on forum..... - page 2. (Read 678 times)

You are just under estimating the number of quality poster here. I still see a lot of good posts still left un-merited so it is not the case that there is no good posts in the forum and merit sources are forced to give more merits on few posts. This is not the case. If you can see the history of merits given by the sources, you will see they are given merits to a lot of posts and the posts are also increasing everyday. The ratio of quality post and smerits is balanced at the moment.

It's entirely up to the merit sender as long as the said post is of help to all. It could be consider merit abuse, merit selling or buying if the post that is merited is useless. To clarify what you have been confused of is to provide the link of the post that got 30+ meritd and let the experts here to check if it's an abuse of merit or not.

What admin meant on the post is if you have 150 source smerits to be spend for every month but you can't find 150 good posts in that time, you only can find the three good posts means just give 50 for that three posts rather than wasting source merits.

Is this 30+ merits given by several users or just one? I've seen 50 merits sent by one user only a couple of times and even admin does that.

According to who? The thing is you cannot tell anyone how to spend their sMerits or how many and you cannot judge how they spend it. Merit sources are different though, they have to follow some guidelines. There was a recent case where a former staff was questioned for giving merits for a simple statement.

This is a clear case of merit abuse.

Since sMerit awarding is not moderated, reporting merit abuse cases would be rather fruitless. In the past, there were some threads were people would list suspected cases (see Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0 for example), but all that these cases really led to at most, was for one or both parties to receive negative trust at the time. Trust should not really be for this sort of situations, so after some debate, tagging for this motive I think cooled down a notch. That, and the fact that, as time goes by, (blatant) merit abuse cases diminish.

I’m sure that, if we went on a case by case basis, we could still see some absurd cases that are at best poorly awarded, but the amount should not be significant in the overall picture (lest it should become a hot topic again due to abundant cases).

Only on a few selected occasions has merit abuse been reversed (I recall a hacked account sending merit in large chunks, a Merit Source handing out large amounts too easily, and another case whose details I cannot recall now). That kind of suggests that, in the big picture, the amount of abuse is considered non-significant; at least not large enough to create a formal procedure to deal with it. Those cases that one spots as blatant cases suck, and one would like to be able to get them reversed or nullified, but I figure that introducing judgment over judgment was kept at bay, lest it be needed. It seems not.

That post never meant that admin wants merit sources to give merits to posts that do not deserve it, what it means is that as long as merit sources can find good posts that are good and that should be merited, then there is no problem emptying their source merits on those few, even if it means giving out from 30-50, which i think that's what you are whining about.

There is no injustice going on in the forum, the legit and good posters are ranking up and they are not complaining.

We cannot prevent the buying or selling of merits. You have may a few examples where you see 30+ merits given to posts which you might get impression that those merits are bought but what about those intelligent buyers/sellers who will give 1 or 2 merits to many posts and it is difficult to figure out if the merits given are genuine or not.
We can just hope these merit sellers get shortage of their smerits and so there is no abuse possible.

Merit is not moderated and hence you can give any numbers of merits and there is no restrictions to it and it cannot be challenged. Even Theymos recently gave 30 -50 merits on photo competition to many posts. What is deserving merit post and what is not a deserving post, is none of our business. The merit sender likes a post and give as many merit as he likes. Also I think people should be given more merits and not just 1 -2 .

i don't really understand what you are trying to say, but I most tell you that admins said all smerit should empty doesn't create room for giving merit to does that don't deserve it. I believed Merit was introduced to this forum so that good poster can reallybe acknowledge  not by misusing it. This is turn the forum to injustice place for legit poster...

I am more worried about the sMerit being given to posts that are clearly rubbish. You can see that these are possibly a duplicate account or some

friends account that are being boosted. You are supposed to give sMerit to posts that add value to the forum. It is difficult to determine if a post

deserve the sMerit that was given to it, but some are blatantly obvious that they are misusing the Merit system. There should be a Merit abuse

reporting function being added to prevent this. Simply reporting the post, will not highlight the user that gave merit to the post. 

Copying other's trading behavior will bring attention to your posts but copying is not the same as learning.IMHO, pretending to be someone else is something disgusting so I never did that.Just be myself still I am getting merits somewhat slow and steady.

OP, Admin said merit sources should empty their source. Of they only find a few good posts in a month, they should give all to them so they can merit others again.

In my opinion, merit should be given based on the quality of a post and how useful and relevant that post is.

• If the post is good and the topic is old and known to everyone then it should be awarded 1-2 merits.
• If the post is new and useful then it should be given 2-3 merits.
• If the post is too good and benefits more users, then it should be given 5 merits and more.

The maximum smerits a person should give to a post should be below 10. Even though if that post deserves more merits than 10, there are many other members who will be giving the merits. So the number of smerits should be equally distributed to the deserving posts.

actually there supposed to be no rules for how much merit you give away, it is your spendable merit and you can use it however you like.

let me ask you this: when you go on reddit for example and see a post that has a bunch of upvotes, won't you upvote it just because it already has some upvote or will you do it despite that?
that the same with merit. when 10, 20 different users give merit to a post they are showing that they have found the post useful and the amount of merit they give it shows how much they think it was useful.

On the other hand, there are merit-worthy posts that went unnoticed so I guess that makes the world go round.


Based on my observation, those informational (or statistically backed) posts are what people like to see, hence meritable. Along with artworks or some user-generated contents.

Other than that, generally helpful or posts concerning some welfare do receive merits, albeit on a lesser scale.

@Legit_Alt+ it would have been nice if you could have quoted some of those posts here, or left the links so we all could have formed a better opinion. In case you yet feel a person is abusing merits hit the report button, or go to the meta section and post there @Theymos and mods will definitely investigate it. Lastly when merits were launched there was no fixed criteria to reward a post, and to be honest it’s extremely difficult to place a guideline of fixed merits hence the ceiling of 50 merits has been kept in place.

I get the point but why do you have to base your giving of merits to the number of merits a certain post already received? Why not base it on the quality of the post itself? I know we have our own standard but if You think a post is good, You can always merit it regardless if it has been merited by others or not.

Which board is this?

If you want to be merited because the depth of your knowledge, maybe try to spend more time on Developments & Technical Discussion. Consider it a challenge.

I cannot agree with you more. I always stalk other peoples previous post to see and study what are their posting behaviour and what specific board they are posting so that I can learn learn based on what they share in the community.

As per my experience, I am receiving merit whether people agrees with my opinion with regards to a specific topic which makes receiving merit from other user to be subjective. And I think merit comes naturally when someone is well informed and educated in a specific topic.

Well, I agree with you.

I think many posts deserve lots of merits. Sometimes a post really deserves 100 or even 200 merits.

However, I have seen many shitposts receiving 30-50 merits from the same person (and nobody else merited that post, which somehow proves it didn't deserve any merit).

But, life is unfair. This forum is unfair as well, merit system is unfair, cryptocurrency markets are unfair.

Try to live your life with those issues and injustices. Don't let those issues and injustices let you down. Pray to have only small injustices in life like this one you mentioned. Keep walking and, if you deserve, you will receive merits and whatever more you deserve in life.