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legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
December 17, 2019, 09:27:14 PM
#52
Stats for total merits of topics and posts (since 24/1/2018 to 11/12/2018):

ABSTRACT



Topics:
Code:
   variable |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      amount |   60612.0       8.9     171.2       2.0       1.0       6.0       1.0   34148.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 50-merited topics:
Code:
      +-------------------------+
       | rank   amount     topic |
       |-------------------------|
    1. |    1    34148    178336 |
    2. |    2    22047   5193860 |
    3. |    3     7646   1006631 |
    4. |    4     3397   2818350 |
    5. |    5     2711     26136 |
       |-------------------------|
    6. |    6     1616   2827596 |
    7. |    7     1516         5 |
    8. |    8     1468    313900 |
    9. |    9     1395   5105163 |
   10. |   10     1234   2818398 |
       |-------------------------|
   11. |   11     1171   2840438 |
   12. |   12     1122   5095156 |
   13. |   13      928   2823701 |
   14. |   14      915   4871955 |
   15. |   15      903   2683530 |
       |-------------------------|
   16. |   16      865   2360806 |
   17. |   17      839   1976285 |
   18. |   18      831   4415262 |
   19. |   19      796    753252 |
   20. |   20      727   1608859 |
       |-------------------------|
   21. |   21      724    750446 |
   22. |   22      718         0 |
   23. |   23      711   2820637 |
   24. |   24      690   1883902 |
   25. |   25      659    155054 |
       |-------------------------|
   26. |   26      652   1458034 |
   27. |   27      638   2818404 |
   28. |   28      632   4742257 |
   29. |   29      602    583449 |
   30. |   30      566   5053833 |
       |-------------------------|
   31. |   31      550    569449 |
   32. |   32      550   5157696 |
   33. |   33      549    570886 |
   34. |   34      544    375643 |
   35. |   35      535    628413 |
       |-------------------------|
   36. |   36      528    421615 |
   37. |   37      528   2040221 |
   38. |   38      507   2544574 |
   39. |   39      503   2897545 |
   40. |   40      493   5114042 |
       |-------------------------|
   41. |   41      468   3918625 |
   42. |   42      460    857670 |
   43. |   43      457   5149062 |
   44. |   44      446   2820262 |
   45. |   45      445   5030366 |
       |-------------------------|
   46. |   46      441    615953 |
   47. |   47      439   1840789 |
   48. |   48      431   5203697 |
   49. |   49      425   5023605 |
   50. |   50      425   1161170 |
       +-------------------------+


Posts:
Code:
   variable |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      amount |  177718.0       3.0       9.0       1.0       1.0       3.0       1.0    1486.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 50-merited posts:
Code:
       +-------------------------------------+
        | rank   amount        ntopic_initial |
        |-------------------------------------|
     1. |    1     1486               5.msg28 |
     2. |    2     1435   2818350.msg28856522 |
     3. |    3      717                0.msg0 |
     4. |    4      648     155054.msg1643833 |
     5. |    5      538     375643.msg4022997 |
        |-------------------------------------|
     6. |    6      395   5193860.msg52793373 |
     7. |    7      393   5193860.msg53059246 |
     8. |    8      377   2818398.msg28857585 |
     9. |    9      354   5203697.msg53150887 |
    10. |   10      346   5023605.msg45324722 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    11. |   11      327   2683530.msg27411367 |
    12. |   12      325   1545652.msg15536651 |
    13. |   13      323   1840789.msg18316056 |
    14. |   14      305           137.msg1141 |
    15. |   15      293   5114042.msg49909815 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    16. |   16      275   5193860.msg52800357 |
    17. |   17      270    990345.msg10775516 |
    18. |   18      252   5193860.msg53064307 |
    19. |   19      244   1608859.msg16156239 |
    20. |   20      244   2827596.msg28975211 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    21. |   21      243     615953.msg6815569 |
    22. |   22      232   5123724.msg50275206 |
    23. |   23      230   2895261.msg29766601 |
    24. |   24      229         2228.msg29479 |
    25. |   25      224   3232693.msg33646534 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    26. |   26      224   1161170.msg12233132 |
    27. |   27      214   5193860.msg53115743 |
    28. |   28      213   3315347.msg34617121 |
    29. |   29      209   3920469.msg37611040 |
    30. |   30      207   1883902.msg18714400 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    31. |   31      205   5193860.msg53137723 |
    32. |   32      200   5193860.msg53095690 |
    33. |   33      193   2022902.msg20155309 |
    34. |   34      186   5193860.msg52803489 |
    35. |   35      184           532.msg6306 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    36. |   36      180   2833350.msg29048068 |
    37. |   37      178    996318.msg10820715 |
    38. |   38      176   5194117.msg52803618 |
    39. |   39      175   5193860.msg52846255 |
    40. |   40      174   2820637.msg28883168 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    41. |   41      173   5030366.msg45810047 |
    42. |   42      170   4519248.msg40698575 |
    43. |   43      169   5124871.msg50326142 |
    44. |   44      167   2840438.msg29137142 |
    45. |   45      166   1976285.msg19673755 |
        |-------------------------------------|
    46. |   46      161     703657.msg7955645 |
    47. |   47      159   2159012.msg21610436 |
    48. |   48      159   2823221.msg28920985 |
    49. |   49      159   2825523.msg28944688 |
    50. |   50      156   5193860.msg53002575 |
        +-------------------------------------+

Categorisations of merited-topics/ merited-posts:

Topics:
Code:
     group |      Freq.     Percent        Cum.
------------+-----------------------------------
      <= 10 |     51,609       85.15       85.15
    11 - 25 |      5,861        9.67       94.82
    26 - 50 |      1,893        3.12       97.94
   51 - 100 |        771        1.27       99.21
  101 - 200 |        324        0.53       99.75
  201 - 500 |        115        0.19       99.94
 501 - 1000 |         27        0.04       99.98
      1001+ |         12        0.02      100.00
------------+-----------------------------------
      Total |     60,612      100.00

Posts:
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     group |      Freq.     Percent        Cum.
------------+-----------------------------------
          1 |     98,331       55.33       55.33
      2 - 5 |     61,816       34.78       90.11
     6 - 10 |     10,929        6.15       96.26
    11 - 25 |      4,737        2.67       98.93
    26 - 50 |      1,356        0.76       99.69
        51+ |        549        0.31      100.00
------------+-----------------------------------
      Total |    177,718      100.00
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
December 17, 2019, 08:49:09 PM
#51
Sorry for this big quote, but it is a visual display from boring data. I hope you like it.
I dropped 16 transactions with negative merits before getting statistics below.
  • Total number of transactions : 274144
  • 1-merit transactions: 190048 (69.3%)
  • Sum merits of 1-merit transactions: 190048
  • Sum merits of 2-to-5-merit transactions: 213021
  • Sum of total merits: 540942
  • Percent of 1-merit transactions (sum) per total merits: 35.1
  • Percent of 2-to-5-merit transactions (sum) per total merits: 39.4

Bar charts & raw statistics:
Number of merit transactions over groups:
10 categories:
Code:
     group |      Freq.     Percent        Cum.
------------+-----------------------------------
          1 |    190,048       69.32       69.32
      2 - 5 |     74,035       27.01       96.33
     6 - 10 |      7,122        2.60       98.93
    11 - 15 |        732        0.27       99.19
    16 - 20 |        871        0.32       99.51
    21 - 25 |        347        0.13       99.64
    26 - 30 |        226        0.08       99.72
    31 - 45 |        240        0.09       99.81
    46 - 50 |        523        0.19      100.00
------------+-----------------------------------
      Total |    274,144      100.00

5 categories:
Code:
       cat |      Freq.     Percent        Cum.
------------+-----------------------------------
          1 |    190,048       69.32       69.32
      2 - 5 |     74,035       27.01       96.33
     6 - 10 |      7,122        2.60       98.93
    11 - 45 |      2,416        0.88       99.81
    46 - 50 |        523        0.19      100.00
------------+-----------------------------------
      Total |    274,144      100.00

Percent of sum merits over groups per total merits:
Over 10 groups:
Code:
    +------------------------------------+
     |   group   amount   tmerit   pmerit |
     |------------------------------------|
  1. |       1   190048   540942     35.1 |
  2. |   2 - 5   213021   540942     39.4 |
  3. |  6 - 10    61434   540942     11.4 |
  4. | 11 - 15     9634   540942      1.8 |
  5. | 16 - 20    16868   540942      3.1 |
     |------------------------------------|
  6. | 21 - 25     8275   540942      1.5 |
  7. | 26 - 30     6539   540942      1.2 |
  8. | 31 - 45     9042   540942      1.7 |
  9. | 46 - 50    26081   540942      4.8 |
     +------------------------------------+

Over 5 groups:
Code:
    +------------------------------------+
     |     cat   amount   tmerit   pmerit |
     |------------------------------------|
  1. |       1   190048   540942     35.1 |
  2. |   2 - 5   213021   540942     39.4 |
  3. |  6 - 10    61434   540942     11.4 |
  4. | 11 - 45    50358   540942      9.3 |
  5. | 46 - 50    26081   540942      4.8 |
     +------------------------------------+
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
December 17, 2019, 04:28:10 AM
#50
<…>
A like is more of a personal Boolean factor, where as a merit is probably a more multifactor type element (i.e. effort and/or well versed/argued and/or informative and/or novel and/or mind racketing and/or etc.), and not always awarded because you “"like" the post itself.

Note: Likes are also rather banal; merits require in principal a bit more effort to be obtained.


Good point.
Then I see why some may think certain posts do not worth more than 30+ merits.

Thanks a lot for the explanation.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
December 17, 2019, 03:08:58 AM
#49
<…>
It’s different to a like really, although it can intersect at times. I have definitively merited posts I do not particularly agree with nor like (although it sure is easier if you do), but that have a good narrative, or seem to be or potentially be useful to the community on the whole.

A like is more of a personal Boolean factor, where as a merit is probably a more multifactor type element (i.e. effort and/or well versed/argued and/or informative and/or novel and/or mind racketing and/or etc.), and not always awarded because you “"like" the post itself.

Note: Likes are also rather banal; merits require in principal a bit more effort to be obtained.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
December 17, 2019, 02:53:48 AM
#48
Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

actually there supposed to be no rules for how much merit you give away, it is your spendable merit and you can use it however you like.

People make good post that deserves to be merited but once you come across  such post that normally you think it need to be merit but occasionally the post already has a good merit I think no need to add more to it
let me ask you this: when you go on reddit for example and see a post that has a bunch of upvotes, won't you upvote it just because it already has some upvote or will you do it despite that?
that the same with merit. when 10, 20 different users give merit to a post they are showing that they have found the post useful and the amount of merit they give it shows how much they think it was useful.

Couldn't agree with you more.

I joined and started reading stuffs on this forum simply because I thought it's a great place to start and learn something about my new job which relates to cryptocurrency.
Although I know it allows users to access to many other feature etc. Never see the point of chasing merits also cannot understand why on earth someone cares about how to give/take it in any particular way.

Thought it is just LIKEs as many other platforms. If the posts/replies are good then ppl tell them they like it as semi-reward, right? And a bad one or spam will be reported and taken off anyway.
 If I misinterpreted the point of this merits system, please do tell me tho.
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 270
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December 17, 2019, 02:21:29 AM
#47
It's not okay to abuse the qualifications in the forum because if you can post a good quality yourself that is positively enlightening to everyone then you will be able to achieve the talent you deserve. It is entirely up to you therefore to try the food yourself without looking at the food If anybody qualifies for merit without abusing the qualifications in the forum we will all give him the talent.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1824
December 17, 2019, 02:04:22 AM
#46
I disagree with you, can find up-to 500+ good post on Bitcointalk forum.
Please post those 500+ unmerited good posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. You'll notice it's a lot of work!

Meanwhile, you haven't merited a single post yet. What's stopping you from doing your share in meriting good posts?

Well,  I think we all have different opinions and criterion about good and bad posts.
Generally,  more or less,  I think that all good posts in this forum receive merits and also I think we have enough merits available for this purpose.
If you really think that some post deserve merit give your merit or post to the post mentioned above.
Also,  there are a lot merit giveaway topics already.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
December 16, 2019, 01:28:11 PM
#45
When a post truly deserves to be merited, it can be merited as many as possible, for example someone might post a topic that and it was read and loved by 1000 people, 200 of them chose to merit the post and what you are saying is that if I read the post and it touches a chord in my heart, I shouldn't merit it just because it has been merited by others? <…>
I was actually wondering about that a few days ago, from a psychological point of view. When we see a post that is (well) merited, we focus on the content, but cannot avoid looking at who merited it and how much. That could lead to:

a)   Nothing, I’m immutable to influence other than the post content itself (poster may or may not also be a subconscious factor, but that’s not what I’m on about right now).

b)   It influences me (conscious or subsconscious) to merit the post, because others have already found it deserving of merits.

c)   It influences me (conscious or subsconscious) not to merit the post, because it has already been merited enough.


Scenario "a" is the most objective one, but I bet "b" and "c" play a heavy hand on some multi-merited posts. That is part of the psychology, and it would be an interesting experiment (conceptually) to do something similar to what Instagram is doing is some places (hide the "like"), by hiding the merits on the posts from viewers (except the person merited), and seeing what happens. Not going to happen on Bitcointalk, but definitively an interesting experiment.

By the way, this is the distribution of the number of meriters per post:
Code:
nMeriters      nPosts         % Posts
1              138431         77,89%
2              22780          12,82%
3              7589           4,27%
4              3361           1,89%
5              1767           0,99%
6              1121           0,63%
7              642            0,36%
8              423            0,24%
9              323            0,18%
10             234            0,13%
11             167            0,09%
12             147            0,08%
13             123            0,07%
14             93             0,05%
15             57             0,03%
16             67             0,04%
17             38             0,02%
18             36             0,02%
19             45             0,03%
20             28             0,02%
21             14             0,01%
22             26             0,01%
23             18             0,01%
24             11             0,01%
25             17             0,01%
26             12             0,01%
27             12             0,01%
28             17             0,01%
29             8              0,00%
30             8              0,00%
31             12             0,01%
32             6              0,00%
33             4              0,00%
34             8              0,00%
35             6              0,00%
36             3              0,00%
37             4              0,00%
38             6              0,00%
39             4              0,00%
40             2              0,00%
41             3              0,00%
42             4              0,00%
43             3              0,00%
44             2              0,00%
45             1              0,00%
46             3              0,00%
47             4              0,00%
48             1              0,00%
49             1              0,00%
50             1              0,00%
51             3              0,00%
52             1              0,00%
55             3              0,00%
56             1              0,00%
58             1              0,00%
59             1              0,00%
60             1              0,00%
63             1              0,00%
66             1              0,00%
69             1              0,00%
74             1              0,00%
82             1              0,00%
86             2              0,00%
88             1              0,00%
103            1              0,00%
106            1              0,00%
144            1              0,00%
158            1              0,00%
198            1              0,00%
328            1              0,00%
 
77,89% of the merited posts are done so by a single person, and 12,82% by 2 people. The record is 328 people meriting a single post. Guess which one.

sr. member
Activity: 400
Merit: 268
December 16, 2019, 12:37:34 PM
#44
When a post truly deserves to be merited, it can be merited as many as possible, for example someone might post a topic that and it was read and loved by 1000 people, 200 of them chose to merit the post and what you are saying is that if I read the post and it touches a chord in my heart, I shouldn't merit it just because it has been merited by others? Sometimes these things are being abused, but if you look closely, most of the merits given away are given for worthy reasons (quality or helpful posts) and last time I checked, everybody reserves the right to merit whoever they like.
full member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 105
December 16, 2019, 12:16:34 PM
#43
The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

I've seen posts that deserve 1000+ merits.

There is enough merits and the admin can make more at any time. If you see someone actually selling merits report to admin but otherwise just forget what other people are getting or sending. Even if you could restrict merits per post it's not going to help you if you don't make good posts.

The example post which you have given is of  satoshi and its people love and affection that people have given a lot of merit to that first post. Other than that no post deserve 1000+ merits.
Also you cannot report selling of merits because you have no way to proof that the merit given is by the sale of it.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 302
December 16, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
#42
The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

I've seen posts that deserve 1000+ merits.

There is enough merits and the admin can make more at any time. If you see someone actually selling merits report to admin but otherwise just forget what other people are getting or sending. Even if you could restrict merits per post it's not going to help you if you don't make good posts.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 16, 2019, 06:21:19 AM
#41
I disagree with you, can find up-to 500+ good post on Bitcointalk forum.
Please post those 500+ unmerited good posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. You'll notice it's a lot of work!

Meanwhile, you haven't merited a single post yet. What's stopping you from doing your share in meriting good posts?
hero member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 952
December 15, 2019, 11:56:02 PM
#40
Should have linked the post, but anyway content quality is in the eyes of beholder. What you think of undeserving of merit, the other think otherwise.

connections matter too  Grin
jr. member
Activity: 603
Merit: 7
December 15, 2019, 11:16:03 PM
#39
OP, Admin said merit sources should empty their source. Of they only find a few good posts in a month, they should give all to them so they can merit others again.
i don't really understand what you are trying to say, but I most tell you that admins said all smerit should empty doesn't create room for giving merit to does that don't deserve it. I believed Merit was introduced to this forum so that good poster can reallybe acknowledge  not by misusing it. This is turn the forum to injustice place for legit poster...

What admin meant on the post is if you have 150 source smerits to be spend for every month but you can't find 150 good posts in that time, you only can find the three good posts means just give 50 for that three posts rather than wasting source merits.

I disagree with you, can find up-to 500+ good post on Bitcointalk forum. They are allot of place to find good post eg Metal board, marketplace, Altcoin and bitcoin section, political section. Especially in metal board almost all the post here goes along with good information that will educate and add some knowledge to what you already know am not trying to single out any section here as the best but there is always best among the good. Each section has it purpose and function, the forum is larger than what you are thinking just time your to move around forum you will come to understand what am trying to say here.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 15, 2019, 11:19:25 AM
#38

OP, Admin said merit sources should empty their source. Of they only find a few good posts in a month, they should give all to them so they can merit others again.
i don't really understand what you are trying to say, but I most tell you that admins said all smerit should empty doesn't create room for giving merit to does that don't deserve it. I believed Merit was introduced to this forum so that good poster can reallybe acknowledge  not by misusing it. This is turn the forum to injustice place for legit poster...


It can be very difficult if you have a lot of merits to give.

I get more then 100 source merits a month.

To give them away in a fair manner  I need to read  a lot of threads this is time consuming.  I try hard to read a lot of posts. But some times  I am busy and I may not fully check the post.

I have given credit on 3 or 4 occasions to posts that were found to be plagiarized.  This is a discouragement to me I spend hours looking for a good post to give merits to and it turns out to be a copied post.

I am pretty sure your post here is not copied and it is a good question, so I gave you some merit for it.




If we go over the 274.160 existing sMerit TXs (as of last Friday), only 0,72% are above or equal to 20 sMerits, and 2,45% above or equal to 10 sMerits. The mayority of the sMerit TXs are for the amount of 1 sMerit (69,32%) or 2 sMerits (15,09%).
Code:
amount    nTX       %TX       %TX ACC   
50        493       0,18%     0,18%
49        12        0,00%     0,18%
48        6         0,00%     0,19%
47        3         0,00%     0,19%
46        9         0,00%     0,19%
45        19        0,01%     0,20%
44        6         0,00%     0,20%
43        5         0,00%     0,20%
42        9         0,00%     0,20%
41        8         0,00%     0,21%
40        62        0,02%     0,23%
39        14        0,01%     0,24%
38        10        0,00%     0,24%
37        6         0,00%     0,24%
36        7         0,00%     0,24%
35        30        0,01%     0,25%
34        13        0,00%     0,26%
33        15        0,01%     0,27%
32        19        0,01%     0,27%
31        17        0,01%     0,28%
30        134       0,05%     0,33%
29        24        0,01%     0,34%
28        12        0,00%     0,34%
27        31        0,01%     0,35%
26        25        0,01%     0,36%
25        203       0,07%     0,43%
24        30        0,01%     0,45%
23        22        0,01%     0,45%
22        42        0,02%     0,47%
21        50        0,02%     0,49%
20        644       0,23%     0,72%
19        77        0,03%     0,75%
18        39        0,01%     0,76%
17        47        0,02%     0,78%
16        64        0,02%     0,81%
15        271       0,10%     0,90%
14        48        0,02%     0,92%
13        90        0,03%     0,95%
12        174       0,06%     1,02%
11        149       0,05%     1,07%
10        3791      1,38%     2,45%
9         430       0,16%     2,61%
8         570       0,21%     2,82%
7         1108      0,40%     3,22%
6         1223      0,45%     3,67%
5         10865     3,96%     7,63%
4         10568     3,85%     11,49%
3         11220     4,09%     15,58%
2         41382     15,09%    30,67%
1         190048    69,32%    99,99%
-1        1         0,00%     99,99%
-2        3         0,00%     100,00%
-4        1         0,00%     100,00%
-5        2         0,00%     100,00%
-7        1         0,00%     100,00%
-8        1         0,00%     100,00%
-9        2         0,00%     100,00%
-10       5         0,00%     100,00%
Looking at the above, the vast majority of TXs are of a limited amount, and only a small portion are of high amounts. We could bring case examples of blatant abuse in the past pretty easily, but in the big picture, they should not really represent a significant amount. There’s probably a fair share more of micro-abuse in the 1 sMerit TX segment, as many account farmers are probably happy to have a bunch of Jr. Accounts nowadays.

  The best way to abuse is give 2 ,4 or 6  not easy to notice  and the recipient gets to send some merit  out.   giving 10 20 30 40 or 50  attracts  alot of attention.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
December 15, 2019, 09:48:46 AM
#37
If we go over the 274.160 existing sMerit TXs (as of last Friday), only 0,72% are above or equal to 20 sMerits, and 2,45% above or equal to 10 sMerits. The mayority of the sMerit TXs are for the amount of 1 sMerit (69,32%) or 2 sMerits (15,09%).
Code:
amount    nTX       %TX       %TX ACC   
50        493       0,18%     0,18%
49        12        0,00%     0,18%
48        6         0,00%     0,19%
47        3         0,00%     0,19%
46        9         0,00%     0,19%
45        19        0,01%     0,20%
44        6         0,00%     0,20%
43        5         0,00%     0,20%
42        9         0,00%     0,20%
41        8         0,00%     0,21%
40        62        0,02%     0,23%
39        14        0,01%     0,24%
38        10        0,00%     0,24%
37        6         0,00%     0,24%
36        7         0,00%     0,24%
35        30        0,01%     0,25%
34        13        0,00%     0,26%
33        15        0,01%     0,27%
32        19        0,01%     0,27%
31        17        0,01%     0,28%
30        134       0,05%     0,33%
29        24        0,01%     0,34%
28        12        0,00%     0,34%
27        31        0,01%     0,35%
26        25        0,01%     0,36%
25        203       0,07%     0,43%
24        30        0,01%     0,45%
23        22        0,01%     0,45%
22        42        0,02%     0,47%
21        50        0,02%     0,49%
20        644       0,23%     0,72%
19        77        0,03%     0,75%
18        39        0,01%     0,76%
17        47        0,02%     0,78%
16        64        0,02%     0,81%
15        271       0,10%     0,90%
14        48        0,02%     0,92%
13        90        0,03%     0,95%
12        174       0,06%     1,02%
11        149       0,05%     1,07%
10        3791      1,38%     2,45%
9         430       0,16%     2,61%
8         570       0,21%     2,82%
7         1108      0,40%     3,22%
6         1223      0,45%     3,67%
5         10865     3,96%     7,63%
4         10568     3,85%     11,49%
3         11220     4,09%     15,58%
2         41382     15,09%    30,67%
1         190048    69,32%    99,99%
-1        1         0,00%     99,99%
-2        3         0,00%     100,00%
-4        1         0,00%     100,00%
-5        2         0,00%     100,00%
-7        1         0,00%     100,00%
-8        1         0,00%     100,00%
-9        2         0,00%     100,00%
-10       5         0,00%     100,00%
Looking at the above, the vast majority of TXs are of a limited amount, and only a small portion are of high amounts. We could bring case examples of blatant abuse in the past pretty easily, but in the big picture, they should not really represent a significant amount. There’s probably a fair share more of micro-abuse in the 1 sMerit TX segment, as many account farmers are probably happy to have a bunch of Jr. Accounts nowadays.
hero member
Activity: 1722
Merit: 801
December 15, 2019, 09:07:57 AM
#36
In my opinion, merit should be given based on the quality of a post and how useful and relevant that post is.

  • If the post is good and the topic is old and known to everyone then it should be awarded 1-2 merits.
  • If the post is new and useful then it should be given 2-3 merits.
  • If the post is too good and benefits more users, then it should be given 5 merits and more.
But the assessment on helpfulness is very subjective. Different users have different assessments on one helpful posts which result in different sendable merits will be sent to that post. The first point is not too exactly because the common things can be unknown ones for newbies, so any answer to help newbies are always useful. If the answers can help newbies to answer their questions, that are good. As expansion to newbies' questions, if answers are opened ones, newbies can move further and learning more from the answers. They can start with the answers and some given hints to search for more related things.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 2248
Playgram - The Telegram Casino
December 15, 2019, 07:21:49 AM
#35
Merit awarding is subjective, and also unregulated. A case where an undeserving posts gets lots of merits is abuse of the system, but little action can be taken against the accounts involved, a negative feedback at most. But if a post is deemed quality, then by all means I think you should give a generous amount of smerits. There shouldn't be a discussion about good posts getting too much merits.
There are lots of smerits and more can be generated by the admins. So I believe if theymos notices a gulf in the merit circulation compared to the quality of posts on the forum an action would be taken, either an increase in sources or source allocation (or both).
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 567
December 15, 2019, 07:02:20 AM
#34


But it now seems many person now buy it even when they don't merit have any. I don't think this was the primary aim of adding merit to this forum. Please let stop abusing merit...

Please what did you think, what is your suggestion on regarding this?Huh?


We cannot stop people from buying merit because there are members who are selling it, but if they are caught they will be tagged, selling andf buying merit is a big no-no and every member of this forum knows this, we have to follow the rules of the game even if the reality is it's hard to get one.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
December 14, 2019, 11:45:11 PM
#33

snip~
You are just under estimating the number of quality poster here. I still see a lot of good posts still left un-merited so it is not the case that there is no good posts in the forum and merit sources are forced to give more merits on few posts. This is not the case. If you can see the history of merits given by the sources, you will see they are given merits to a lot of posts and the posts are also increasing everyday. The ratio of quality post and smerits is balanced at the moment.
I just have an example of what admin asked the merit sources to do when they can't find enough quality posts to exhaust their source merit.

Merit sources are not getting paid for being a one, so they are spending their free time to find worthy posts which we can't enforce them to do all their time.

Not every good post will not get merits.
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