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Again, a great idea.
Hopefully more users will try to use this site and win 1BTC.

You could implement a Captcha to stop things like this happening, or possibly some sort of bot check.

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time to write a bot script to check every 2 minutes with autoclick

P.S - I hope this idea catches on!  Smiley
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Getting a 10% discount is not a prize.  That's so lame and just screams of CHEAP and SCAM.

Prizes should be freebies with no obligation to 'buy' something to actually get a lame discount on something that was originally overpriced.  Most people would know the difference between 'prize' and 'scam' and never return.
Totally agree. In Eastern Europe common business practice is to drastically increase price, than advertise big discount, e.g. 90%. It is very disgusting.

I guess I need to clarify my example. In no way have I suggested that you mark up the price of an item, just to turn around and sell it at a discount or offer a free gift because of the inflated profit margin.

This table sells for $1,500 but only cost $200 to produce. The $1,500 price tag is the going rate for these tables without a mark-up, and can easily be sold for less and still enjoy a handsome profit margin. I can easily give away a set of six place mats via the Magic Bitcoin program, and it would barely cut into my profits, but I would have enjoyed more traffic and possible another sale I won't have had otherwise.



Therefore, I'm not wanting to see this idea used on sites that sell inflated priced wares. I envision it on sites that have unique items that just so happen have a nice profit margin built in, but the site owners desire more traffic.

Further thoughts?
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Getting a 10% discount is not a prize.  That's so lame and just screams of CHEAP and SCAM.

Prizes should be freebies with no obligation to 'buy' something to actually get a lame discount on something that was originally overpriced.  Most people would know the difference between 'prize' and 'scam' and never return.
Totally agree. In Eastern Europe common business practice is to drastically increase price, than advertise big discount, e.g. 90%. It is very disgusting.
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Please correct me if I don't have this figured out in post #66: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.456667

Getting a 10% discount is not a prize.  That's so lame and just screams of CHEAP and SCAM.

Prizes should be freebies with no obligation to 'buy' something to actually get a lame discount on something that was originally overpriced.  Most people would know the difference between 'prize' and 'scam' and never return.


Your point is well taken, indicasteve.

With my toaster example, the toaster model would not be overpriced, although it would be an expensive model, nonetheless.

Very valid point on a discount not being a prize. But a free toaster cover would be a great prize for these upper-end toasters.

Further thoughts?
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Please correct me if I don't have this figured out in post #66: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.456667

Getting a 10% discount is not a prize.  That's so lame and just screams of CHEAP and SCAM.

Prizes should be freebies with no obligation to 'buy' something to actually get a lame discount on something that was originally overpriced.  Most people would know the difference between 'prize' and 'scam' and never return.
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Interesting idea... time to write a bot script to check every 2 minutes with autoclick to beat indicasteve to it... Cheesy

Really?  You do realize that will just start an arms race with maxmint; he or she will write code to detect and ban bots, somebody will deploy bots via multiple IP addresses to workaround, maxmint will be forced to add a CAPTCHA, etc...

maxmint: it can be kind of fun to try to scam the scammers.  If you detect them, just never let them win (but don't tell them you're not letting them win).

However, they'll eventually figure out you're doing that.  The only way to win the arms race is to make it more expensive for the scammers to win than the reward.  If I recall correctly, getting around one-per-IP-address and CAPTCHA restrictions costs a scammer a few US pennies.  If you're giving away 1BTC worth $10, then you'll have to make sure the scammers will have to solve several thousand captchas to win.

Please correct me if I don't have this figured out in post #66: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.456667
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At least you didn't sugest a bitcoinpenis.com with a... wait for it... 'here cums the money shot', daily prize.  Shocked Oops did I say that? Lips sealed
Don't tempt them. They'll make one.


A proctologist trying to scoop up some more organic biz would welcome this idea with both hands, unless he's too anal to see the beauty in this.





Now, would anyone care to offer up a "Cliff Notes" version of this thread? 1,726 1,750 viewers can't be wrong!
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Er... Not sure what you are getting at here. Huh

It wasn't anything negative directed towards you. It was meant to be humorous by employing word play--fracture/fractals. (I) FAILED

LOL. No I didn't think you were casting nasturtiums Phinnaeus, I just didn't get it as I'm a bit thick at that time of day. Wink

And where do you get off calling me a nasturtium? I thought we were bonding, but now I see someone twisting their nose up at me. (please don't have me pen another FAILED post)
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@OP: Awesome idea, great work so far. I have to admit, as a programmer the very first thing I did was check for the existence of an 'open' graphic and Javascript on the page. It doesn't have to be low-lifes involved in it, but there will be many people interested in finding out how to break your site simply for the challenge.

In itself, this site is great and novel and I think it's perfect as it is. The others are right to say to put an ad on top as well. I would go one step further and say that people should pay 0.1BTC a month in order to have a 'login' where they can sit and wait for the flower to open (this will stop the common thieves) or perhaps even give 10 different 0.1BTC rewards instead of a single 1BTC reward to insure that everyone gets a chance.

To be honest, there seems to be a money making opportunity in this somewhere, at least with those who would already be wasting their time on ponzi games.

At least SomethingAwful goons haven't seen this and made a bitcoinvagina.com yet Cheesy





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To be honest, there seems to be a money making opportunity in this somewhere...

There sure is, and that's why I like this idea so much.


Allow me to address your concern by using my toaster example again:





Someone already mention to make it too expensive for the thieves that make bots to game the system. With my idea, I would welcome those thieves with open arms. Of course they won't come, but they'll be welcome nonetheless.

Example: I have a site that sells toasters. Upper-end toasters at competitive prices. I have a large enough mark-up on some of these toasters that I'm willing to offer another 10% discount to the first person who sees the Bitcoin pop up from the toaster. Therefore if a bot builder games the system, he's more than welcome to use the 10% coupon he just won to buy the toaster where I still may make a 5-10 percent profit. My toaster site is listed on the Magic Bitcoin listing site, so I know I'm getting organic traffic=buyers from there.

I'm able to list my site for free on Magic Bitcoin.

Magic Bitcoin makes its profit from the referral programs that some, not all, of the sites have in place. They'll be no need to clutter this site up with Google adsense, banner ads, etc. The site owner would have a couple/few micro sites himself, that he'll be able to direct traffic to.

Magic Bitcoin will even get more traffic from every site that's listed on it. How? Well, underneath my animated toaster is a line that reads: Visit Magic Bitcoin to view when the last time the 10% Off Bitcoin materialize. Someone who came to my toaster site from outside the system I just described, clicks it, wondering what this could be all about and maybe convert another person over to using Bitcoin, if nothing else.

I already stated this about Magic Bitcoin, although not called that at the time:

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Now, further imagine a site dedicated to listing every site that has incorporated this gimmick (sorry for incorporating the word incorporated numerous times in this post, as well as the several uses of parentheses I incorporated to explain myself, but I can't help it because Bitcoin excites me--excites me so much that you may have noticed I incorporated the use of this parenthesized statement after the wrong word--but I digress). This possible site would not only list the above mentioned sites in categories, but also list the exact times (clock, as well as maybe the number of) the Bitcoin was last revealed at each site. Furthermore, it would show a "hot list" of sites fast approaching the deadline of when the Bitcoin is suppose to be revealed--colored coded red/orange/yellow. It could even list who the winners are.


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Er... Not sure what you are getting at here. Huh

It wasn't anything negative directed towards you. It was meant to be humorous by employing word play--fracture/fractals. (I) FAILED

LOL. No I didn't think you were casting nasturtiums Phinnaeus, I just didn't get it as I'm a bit thick at that time of day. Wink
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I'm not sure what it would of costed, because I think I just increased it: Make it all 3D ~ Picture swimming in a Mandelbrot Set where you're able to go left, right, up, down, back and forth.

Yeah! That's what I had in mind Phinnaeus. It would be just like using a mandlebrot rendering engine (I used to play with fractint), only online, and yeah, 3D rendering, that's why I say you would have to be able zoom scroll and move through the set just as you can with the desktop applications.

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So far I've only read the first two sentences of this post and already figured out you're trying to fracture this idea with your fractals.

Er... Not sure what you are getting at here. Huh

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Er... Not sure what you are getting at here. Huh

It wasn't anything negative directed towards you. It was meant to be humorous by employing word play--fracture/fractals. (I) FAILED
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or perhaps even give 10 different 0.1BTC rewards instead of a single 1BTC reward to insure that everyone gets a chance.
My competing service Dailybitcoins.org works exactly as you suggested.

P.S. When your lottery would become popular, you must implement serious anti-bot measures. Currently my free lottery has about 700 unique visitors per day and I spend a lot of time to defend my site from cheaters and block bots. Today I have experienced massive attack from China, CAPTCHA probably had solved manually by poor kids and about 300 fake bounty requests was made. If I would't manually review all payments, my site would go out of business. So think more seriously about security. If you will not do this, your flower will wither very soon!

Cool site.
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or perhaps even give 10 different 0.1BTC rewards instead of a single 1BTC reward to insure that everyone gets a chance.
My competing service Dailybitcoins.org works exactly as you suggested.

P.S. When your lottery would become popular, you must implement serious anti-bot measures. Currently my free lottery has about 700 unique visitors per day and I spend a lot of time to defend my site from cheaters and block bots. Today I have experienced massive attack from China, CAPTCHA probably had solved manually by poor kids and about 300 fake bounty requests was made. If I would't manually review all payments, my site would go out of business. So think more seriously about security. If you will not do this, your flower will wither very soon!
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At least SomethingAwful goons haven't seen this and made a bitcoinvagina.com yet Cheesy


You have a wicked mind Mat. Tongue

At least you didn't sugest a bitcoinpenis.com with a... wait for it... 'here cums the money shot', daily prize.  Shocked Oops did I say that? Lips sealed
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I'm not sure what it would of costed, because I think I just increased it: Make it all 3D ~ Picture swimming in a Mandelbrot Set where you're able to go left, right, up, down, back and forth.

Yeah! That's what I had in mind Phinnaeus. It would be just like using a mandlebrot rendering engine (I used to play with fractint), only online, and yeah, 3D rendering, that's why I say you would have to be able zoom scroll and move through the set just as you can with the desktop applications.

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So far I've only read the first two sentences of this post and already figured out you're trying to fracture this idea with your fractals.

Er... Not sure what you are getting at here. Huh
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Wonderful idea. I like the fun aspect of it.

I thought of something similar a while back. Might take a fair bit of coding though. It might be called The Mandelpot. It's like a treasure hunt for pots of gold (acctualy bitcoin prizes), randomly distibuted through an online rendering of the mandelbrot set. You would have to zoom in a bit to find the smaller bitcoin 'pots of gold' and explore the set even more carefully to find biger prizes. The colective prize money would replaced regularly as it is won, but randomly split so that the smaller chunks appear closer to 1:1 scale (say at a minimum of 100:1 for 100 satoshis), while a larger chunk would be calculated to be hiden deeper (say 1,000,000:1 for a 0.1 bitcoin prize). You can explore the set for as long as you please, but when you login you agree to have your GPU/CPU harvested for some machine cycles to generate bitcoin. So it's actualy a casual bitcoin mining farm also. While you are exploring you might notice various sponsorship ads swimming into view amidst the sweeping tendrills of the mandelbrot set. Also some of the pots might have a generous vouchers of genuine discount/gifts/introductory offers from the sponsors, rather than straight out bitcoin prizes.

I think this could be made so that bots have no better chance of finding the pots than the humans, but as long as they are there, they too have to contribute machine cycles to play, so they would contribute to the prize pool as much as (or more than) they are harvesting from it. The more hashing power you have the more quickly you can zoom, scroll, render and such, so it should possible to ballance the odds if done properly.

If somebody wants to code this up, I'd likely to be quite willing to put a reasonable sum of bitcoin in to help launch it. What would the coding for something like that be worth?

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What would the coding for something like that be worth?

I'm not sure what it would of costed, because I think I just increased it: Make it all 3D ~ Picture swimming in a Mandelbrot Set where you're able to go left, right, up, down, back and forth.

Here's an idea that just came to mind: A fractal Bitcoin (tree-as in money) image.
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Wonderful idea. I like the fun aspect of it.

I thought of something similar a while back. Might take a fair bit of coding though. It might be called The Mandelpot. It's like a treasure hunt for pots of gold (acctualy bitcoin prizes), randomly distibuted through an online rendering of the mandelbot set. You would have to zoom in a bit to find the smaller bitcoin 'pots of gold' and explore the set even more carefully to find biger prizes. The colective prize money would replaced regularly as it is won, but randomly split so that the smaller chunks appear closer to 1:1 scale (say at a minimum of 100:1 for 100 satoshis), while a larger chunk would be calculated to be hiden deeper (say 1,000,000:1 for a 0.1 bitcoin prize). You can explore the set for as long as you please, but when you login you agree to have your GPU/CPU harvested for some machine cycles to generate bitcoin. So it's actualy a casual bitcoin mining farm also. While you are exploring you might notice various sponsorship ads swimming into view amidst the sweeping tendrills of the mandelbrot set. Also some of the pots might have a generous vouchers of genuine discount/gifts/introductory offers from the sponsors, rather than straight out bitcoin prizes.

I think this could be made so that bots have no better chance of finding the pots than the humans, but as long as they are there, they too have to contribute machine cycles to play, so they would contribute to the prize pool as much as (or more than) they are harvesting from it. The more hashing power you have the more quickly you can zoom, scroll, render and such, so it should possible to ballance the odds if done properly.

If somebody wants to code this up, I'd likely to be quite willing to put a reasonable sum of bitcoin in to help launch it. What would the coding for something like that be worth?

So far I've only read the first two sentences of this post and already figured out you're trying to fracture this idea with your fractals.
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I got the open flower.

Too bad I was using Opera Mobile, which meant the site didn't respond to my presses. Sad
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Someone got the today's coin, but the tx on blockexplorer says that no such transactions exists.

EDIT:Ok, showed up.
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Wonderful idea. I like the fun aspect of it.

I thought of something similar a while back. Might take a fair bit of coding though. It might be called The Mandelpot. It's like a treasure hunt for pots of gold (acctualy bitcoin prizes), randomly distibuted through an online rendering of the mandelbrot set. You would have to zoom in a bit to find the smaller bitcoin 'pots of gold' and explore the set even more carefully to find biger prizes. The colective prize money would replaced regularly as it is won, but randomly split so that the smaller chunks appear closer to 1:1 scale (say at a minimum of 100:1 for 100 satoshis), while a larger chunk would be calculated to be hiden deeper (say 1,000,000:1 for a 0.1 bitcoin prize). You can explore the set for as long as you please, but when you login you agree to have your GPU/CPU harvested for some machine cycles to generate bitcoin. So it's actualy a casual bitcoin mining farm also. While you are exploring you might notice various sponsorship ads swimming into view amidst the sweeping tendrills of the mandelbrot set. Also some of the pots might have a generous vouchers of genuine discount/gifts/introductory offers from the sponsors, rather than straight out bitcoin prizes.

I think this could be made so that bots have no better chance of finding the pots than the humans, but as long as they are there, they too have to contribute machine cycles to play, so they would contribute to the prize pool as much as (or more than) they are harvesting from it. The more hashing power you have the more quickly you can zoom, scroll, render and such, so it should possible to ballance the odds if done properly.

If somebody wants to code this up, I'd likely to be quite willing to put a reasonable sum of bitcoin in to help launch it. What would the coding for something like that be worth?
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