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legendary
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Curiousity and a case of knowing what their MO is just in case it's really a scam.  That would help the community in general avoid doing the same mistake over and over.

Edit:  And wasn't Bluemeanie the guy who scammed the NXT community?  How many times have that community been scammed?
hero member
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The same small group of con individuals continue taking the idiots for a ride. Maybe there's some kind of poetic justice there after all.

"Never underestimate the levels of idiocy in large groups of people".

Amazing. Simply amazing.

I wouldn't be quick to making a judgement.  But we need to research who these individuals really are.  So it would really be a public service if someone out there knows something and kindly make a post here and let's take a look from an objective stand point.

It's safe to assume those who donated to project Tennessee were satisfied, so why is there any need for identity 'outings' now? If you donated to Tennessee you should have asked BEFORE, if you didn't donate then it's irrelevant information to YOU.

This comment is straight out of the bluemeanie psycho playbook IMO:
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But we need to research who these individuals really are.  So it would really be a public service if someone out there knows something and kindly make a post here and let's take a look from an objective stand point.
legendary
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The same small group of con individuals continue taking the idiots for a ride. Maybe there's some kind of poetic justice there after all.

"Never underestimate the levels of idiocy in large groups of people".

Amazing. Simply amazing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were.  But we need to research who these individuals really are.  So it would really be a public service if someone out there knows something and kindly make a post here.

Not really. Waste of time, not service.
Here's the indisputable reality for you:

1.-The same small group of people has gazillions of NXT that they need to keep unloading, regardless of the price -as slowly as they can, not to kill it completely-, and have been doing so for many, many months. And continue. These too, Dave and Bass are part of the group.

2.- These guys, the group with Dave and Bass leading, decided to give the idiots (those are people like you, who "believe") what they were asking for ("marketing and PR"). Mind you, you (the idiots) were asking for that to keep alive the fable or your own creation rather than admit you have been taken). So they organized the collection for that purpose. 10 million NXT. They were not going to give a cent of it to professionals, of course. So they kept it and assigned to themselves and such professionals, to keep on sucking from the same tit, only now in the open. And, of course, they gave the contract for the website to another of the group. Mind you the cost of the website is absurd since anyone can do it with wordpress for free. So the 10 million will quickly disappear and you will have the same things to show for it that you have now, two months since assigned: ZERO.

3.- All of this doesn't slow down, in the least, the dumping of NXT. They did it at 9000, at 5000, at 2000 and will continue doing it -as much as there's ANY demand at ANY price-.

4.- Do you still have some reservations? let me spell it for you: Y O U  H A V E  B E E N   T A K E N.

About the  business with BK, Nautilus and that other guy... are you kidding me??? Brian Kelly comes out on TV one every blue moon and DOES run an investment fund. Have you taken a close look at who these guys, Dave and Bass are, really are? They would KILL for being mentioned with Kelly on the same sentence. No matter the price.

Taken. You have been taken.
legendary
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The same small group of con individuals continue taking the idiots for a ride. Maybe there's some kind of poetic justice there after all.

"Never underestimate the levels of idiocy in large groups of people".

Amazing. Simply amazing.

I wouldn't be quick to making a judgement.  But we need to research who these individuals really are.  So it would really be a public service if someone out there knows something and kindly make a post here and let's take a look from an objective stand point.
legendary
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The same small group of con individuals continue taking the idiots for a ride. Maybe there's some kind of poetic justice there after all.

"Never underestimate the levels of idiocy in large groups of people".

Amazing. Simply amazing.
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http://techcitynews.com/2015/11/23/digital-currency-ecosystem-tested-on-island/
Explains the whole Agistri/Nautilus project pretty simply.
You can look on Brian Kelly as the creator of Nautiluscoin, and the backer for the Drachmae project on Agistri.
Lee GG (as part of Coinstructors) put much of the project together, with some help from the Nxt Foundation, mostly tech and community support.

These 2 articles are also worth reading:
https://www.zapchain.com/a/NqFT37iLgl
http://coinstructors.com/?author=2

As for the allegations against Lee: I researched his Scottish arse when he first showed up in Nxt, and couldn't find any proper naughtiness.
Someone did post a list of Lee's supposed evil-doing, but didn't have any solid evidence, apart from one very old (i think 2009) post on a telecoms forum claiming that Lee was a dodgy git, again with no proper evidence. If DE can come up with some real evidence, or even semi-real, I'm happy to listen.

The ironic bit here, btw, is that Lee was pretty much the only guy who got ripped off by whoever used the (hacked?) John M. forum account to scam BTC, year and a half ago.

legendary
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@DE: you notice the words 'for a while' in my post ?

And: do not invest in anything (except Bitcoin) for a while....do lots of research first.

Don't want to scare you off, but crypto is still the Wild West, and there are some bad guys around. You have to protect yourself. No-one else will. Cool

'For a while'......my advice was to wait and do some research, not to only invest in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is still the gateway into crypto,  and a fairly reliable short term investment. I'm giving unbiased advice there, to take some time to do research before he jumps into any alt-coin, even to NXT. People need to start somewhere, and the more people using any kind of crypto, the better.  Just means more NXT users in the long term.......... Grin

So, you jumped on me for one tiny point, and blew it up into something completely distorted, for no frigging reason.

For the rest:
Yeah, we gave the job for the www.nxt.org site to Farla for several reasons, including, but not limited to :
He's a pro, and should give good results.
He'll take payment in NXT for 80%..... Grin
No-one else in the community stepped up to do it, and we need a better site pronto.

Lastly, on Lee: we've worked with him for a long time, as you say. He's not a scammer, imho.
I've searched long and hard far any dirt on him, and all I could find is one person (possibly trolling him) from a long time ago. If you have evidence of Lee's scamminess, let's see it. All I see from Lee is lots of useful business connections, all of whom regard Lee as a mostly trustworthy guy. He did balls up TXTCoinsNow, though.

I think you're just trying to have a go at the Nxt community in general, as a result of your ban from www.nxtforum.org.
Don't get why you chose me in particular, but, hey, feel free.

BTW: could you change the title to read something like: 'NXT Foundation/Tennessee is a Joke' or 'EvilDave has a magnificent cock' ?
The Nxt marketing committee hasn't existed for over a year now, and I was never a member (Damelon was, though).
 

I'm curious.  What were the allegations on Lee?  And what's his association with Brian Kelly?
newbie
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all nxt asset are scam for founders and ponzi scemes . 10 milon nextcoin sold for bitcoin look prize
hero member
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@DE: you notice the words 'for a while' in my post ?

And: do not invest in anything (except Bitcoin) for a while....do lots of research first.

Don't want to scare you off, but crypto is still the Wild West, and there are some bad guys around. You have to protect yourself. No-one else will. Cool

'For a while'......my advice was to wait and do some research, not to only invest in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is still the gateway into crypto,  and a fairly reliable short term investment. I'm giving unbiased advice there, to take some time to do research before he jumps into any alt-coin, even to NXT. People need to start somewhere, and the more people using any kind of crypto, the better.  Just means more NXT users in the long term.......... Grin

So, you jumped on me for one tiny point, and blew it up into something completely distorted, for no frigging reason.

For the rest:
Yeah, we gave the job for the www.nxt.org site to Farla for several reasons, including, but not limited to :
He's a pro, and should give good results.
He'll take payment in NXT for 80%..... Grin
No-one else in the community stepped up to do it, and we need a better site pronto.

Lastly, on Lee: we've worked with him for a long time, as you say. He's not a scammer, imho.
I've searched long and hard far any dirt on him, and all I could find is one person (possibly trolling him) from a long time ago. If you have evidence of Lee's scamminess, let's see it. All I see from Lee is lots of useful business connections, all of whom regard Lee as a mostly trustworthy guy. He did balls up TXTCoinsNow, though.

I think you're just trying to have a go at the Nxt community in general, as a result of your ban from www.nxtforum.org.
Don't get why you chose me in particular, but, hey, feel free.

BTW: could you change the title to read something like: 'NXT Foundation/Tennessee is a Joke' or 'EvilDave has a magnificent cock' ?
The Nxt marketing committee hasn't existed for over a year now, and I was never a member (Damelon was, though).
 
legendary
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I saw a guy here with the same name 2 years ago...  So not sure if DE is really 2K4S.

Edit:  It's probably him. 
legendary
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One related question: Is DE the infamous (and banned) NXT forum member "2Kool4Skewl"?
legendary
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Murphy's law.

Let's just move on. 
legendary
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Lastly, DE;
Thanks, mate. I've done nothing but work my ass off for Nxt, and this is how you act ? Stab me in the back, why don't ya?

Let's get one thing straight.  I didn't stab anyone in the back.  You DID.

You made this comment:

And: do not invest in anything (except Bitcoin) for a while....do lots of research first.

Don't want to scare you off, but crypto is still the Wild West, and there are some bad guys around. You have to protect yourself. No-one else will. Cool

I've always been loyal to NXT.  You on the other hand, who is on the MARKETING COMMITTEE and was given FUNDS TO MARKET NXT, is on here, the largest and most visited cryptocurrency forum, telling new, potential users to ONLY INVEST IN BITCOIN not more than two months after you were hired!  What is wrong with you?  You stabbed every single investor in NXT, especially those who are PAYING YOU, in the back.  The worst thing about this is that all the NXTers who assume you will do your best to market NXT are now under this false assumption.  Don't tell us that your best is telling other users to ONLY INVEST IN BITCOIN!  If that's your best, nobody wants it.  If you were working for me and you said that to a potential customer, I'd fire you so fast your head would spin.

Obviously, your real opinion of NXT is that it should be a second-rate, supplement to Bitcoin.  I would wager to say that all the NXTers who gave you money to market NXT would have an objection to this belief.  Now, unfortunately, you have been paid up-front for a year's worth of telling users to ONLY INVEST IN BITCOIN!

I think it's time for the NXT community to realize that they're being had.  Or are the people at the top of their hierarchy all part of the whole scheme...  I mean how could those known characters allow this?  

I'd be careful with NXT.  I am now not ruling out that this could be one long con job.  

Be careful.  So sorry to see this happen to a project with a good following.

Edit:  There's a good reason they banned you DE.  The corruption could be traced all the way to the top.

Well, I can assure you that NXT isn't "one long con job".  NXT is a legitimate project started by BCNext, who was fair and honest in his dealings, and now, has a userbase that, for the most part, has good intentions.  The official NXT Forum / Foundation has done nothing good for NXT.  It is controlled by individuals who abhor freedom of speech, are largely incompetent, hypocritical, and stupid.  It's a fact that the NXT community unanimously concluded, in a fair and free vote, that the mods on NXT Forum were "raging retards".  The reason I was banned on NXT Forum is because the Mods didn't like me telling the truth.  I've never made money being dishonest and I'm going to speak the truth regardless of my exposure.  Quite frankly, being quiet and not saying anything will financially damage all of us more than airing the truth.

I repeat once more: You have no idea what a marketing/PR campaign is or should be. Not even a remote one. Not even a wikipedia-copy pasted one, ok? That's why your idea is to contribute texts (of no relevance of interest to anyone whatsoever) to a website that any average 15 year old kid can create for nothing or next to nothing.

To my knowledge, they didn't take bids on the website redesign project and simply gave the contract to Farl4bit who is a mod on NXT Forum.  I would like to know how much Farl4bit's company, Farla Webmedia, is getting paid for this project.  My guess is that they could have received a better price from someone else and that they gave him the job because of favoritism.

Enough words.  Just follow Brian Kelly and do some research on him and Nautiluscoin.  He could be another 'John' for all we know.

Edit:  But if something bad happens, or it fails, it's on Tennessee too.  It's only fair.

This is exactly what will occur.  Brian Kelly is either unknowingly associating with a known scammer, Lee Gibson Grant, or a scammer himself.  People are who they associate with and once a scammer, always a scammer.  Either way, the fact that Lee Gibson Grant is associated with this "project" is a big red flag.  Over a year ago, right after Lee's TXT Coins Now scam, there was a post on NXT forum from an anonymous individual regarding the long history of Lee Gibson Grant's known scams.  It had links to complaints filed against him from other companies claiming that they paid him for services which he never provided.  His modus operandi is to create dummy corporations and elicit contracts from others which he never fulfills.  Suspiciously, this post in its entirety was quickly deleted from NXT Forum by the moderators.  I always found that strange, but now maybe it's all starting to make sense.  I don't know what if any relationship the mods have with Lee Gibson Grant, but I find it very odd that negative posts about him are quickly deleted and that they are still associating with this known liar, cheater and thief.  Maybe there is some type of kickbacks from these scams to some NXT moderators.  Instead of allowing Brian Kelly to unknowingly associate with this scammer, why doesn't EvilDave, Damelon and the NXT mods warn him about Lee Gibson Grant?  Mark my words this association with Nautiluscoin will blow up in the NXT Marketing Committee's face and tarnish NXT for no reason.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

This is most likely Lee Gibson Grant.  The comment style is imo similar to his.  It could also just be an idiot.  You decide!
legendary
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Enough words.  Just follow Brian Kelly and do some research on him and Nautiluscoin.  He could be another 'John' for all we know.

Edit:  But if something bad happens, or it fails, it's on Tennessee too.  It's only fair.  

Yeah, BK could be anything, but he's got enough of a rep to be on CNBC, runs a reputable investment  fund, and has access to enough cash to underwrite the Agistri/Nautilus project, so I'm going to take him at face value.
(and, yeah, if something bad and Tennessee-related happens, it's on me. But there is a hell of a lot more to the Nxt/SuperNET ecosystem than just Tennessee)

BTW; sockpuppet, moi ? TheNoticer has precisely sod-all to do with me. I have enough trouble finding time to post here under my own handle, so no socks for me.


@barabass: nice to see showing such concern for the health of Nxt, mate. I get the feeling that nothing I can say will make any difference to you, so.....meh.
Can't please all the people all the time. Grin
Did you like my lazy truck driver in a Lambo routine, at least ?
(thanks, btcsatan)



The people appearing on CNBC are the most dangerous kind.  Remember, even that John guy appeared in Payment Expo.  And there's no correlation between appearing on CNBC and success. 

It's a wait and see scenario.  But I wouldn't hate to be proven wrong in this case.
legendary
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Huh...  You mad bro?


Ahh i see, you are salty about me calling you out for commenting your bullshit on nearly every topic on this forum like you are some type of superuser with a super opinion, who is autocool cause you have weed in your name and a pic of the dude.

Lol. Keep on trucking, some of us dont need to wear our opinion on our arm to feel good about ourselves and sleep well at night.

I was kidding.  And I don't give a shit where you've been.


Hardly dave my friend,

I was at the emerald cup all weekend sampling some of the finest in cali. Not 1 person gave two shits about crypto there. Just who had the best dabs.


The best idea so far from Tennessee is the help desk.

Great concept!

As far as the other armchair quarterbacks in this thread, opinions are like assholes except these guys got two. De, toke, & bar stop talking out of your mouth hole, its hard to take your opinions seriously.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

Whatever Dave.  Cheesy
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Enough words.  Just follow Brian Kelly and do some research on him and Nautiluscoin.  He could be another 'John' for all we know.

Edit:  But if something bad happens, or it fails, it's on Tennessee too.  It's only fair.  

Yeah, BK could be anything, but he's got enough of a rep to be on CNBC, runs a reputable investment  fund, and has access to enough cash to underwrite the Agistri/Nautilus project, so I'm going to take him at face value.
(and, yeah, if something bad and Tennessee-related happens, it's on me. But there is a hell of a lot more to the Nxt/SuperNET ecosystem than just Tennessee)

BTW; sockpuppet, moi ? TheNoticer has precisely sod-all to do with me. I have enough trouble finding time to post here under my own handle, so no socks for me.


@barabass: nice to see showing such concern for the health of Nxt, mate. I get the feeling that nothing I can say will make any difference to you, so.....meh.
Can't please all the people all the time. Grin
Did you like my lazy truck driver in a Lambo routine, at least ?
(thanks, btcsatan)

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Ahh i see, you are salty about me calling you out for commenting your bullshit on nearly every topic on this forum like you are some type of superuser with a super opinion, who is autocool cause you have weed in your name and a pic of the dude.

Lol. Keep on trucking, some of us dont need to wear our opinion on our arm to feel good about ourselves and sleep well at night.

I was kidding.  And I don't give a shit where you've been.


Hardly dave my friend,

I was at the emerald cup all weekend sampling some of the finest in cali. Not 1 person gave two shits about crypto there. Just who had the best dabs.


The best idea so far from Tennessee is the help desk.

Great concept!

As far as the other armchair quarterbacks in this thread, opinions are like assholes except these guys got two. De, toke, & bar stop talking out of your mouth hole, its hard to take your opinions seriously.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

Whatever Dave.  Cheesy
legendary
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I was kidding.  And I don't give a shit where you've been.


Hardly dave my friend,

I was at the emerald cup all weekend sampling some of the finest in cali. Not 1 person gave two shits about crypto there. Just who had the best dabs.


The best idea so far from Tennessee is the help desk.

Great concept!

As far as the other armchair quarterbacks in this thread, opinions are like assholes except these guys got two. De, toke, & bar stop talking out of your mouth hole, its hard to take your opinions seriously.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

Whatever Dave.  Cheesy
sr. member
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Hardly dave my friend,

I was at the emerald cup all weekend sampling some of the finest in cali. Not 1 person gave two shits about crypto there. Just who had the best dabs.


The best idea so far from Tennessee is the help desk.

Great concept!

As far as the other armchair quarterbacks in this thread, opinions are like assholes except these guys got two. De, toke, & bar stop talking out of your mouth hole, its hard to take your opinions seriously.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

Whatever Dave.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
The best idea so far from Tennessee is the help desk.

Great concept!

As far as the other armchair quarterbacks in this thread, opinions are like assholes except these guys got two. De, toke, & bar stop talking out of your mouth hole, its hard to take your opinions seriously.

And de, dude you have gone senile in the past few months. Your complaints add 0 to any crypto conversation.

Let me sum up de , " i dont like this , i dont like that, i didnt invest in that -but have an opinion, im not a doctor but i play one on tv, blah blah blah, my opinions are SO important. Here look at me, look at me, im having original thoughts.

Just start the de two minutes of hate thread so all your bullshit is in one place.

But also don't forget to get your ass checked for pollups, thats what happens when you shit negativity for so long.

Edit:  Whatever Lee.  Cheesy
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