Topic: The real reason your altcoins are currently going down (important) - page 3. (Read 763 times)

Ah, the myth of the whales.  You know, it could also just be panic selling by the uninformed masses.

For a newbie you gave a fair explanation and very thoughtful as well. I have been in the market of crypto for not so long, but I have witnessed a lot of this market manipulation and fud where unfortunately not so wise people have gone into panic and lost a lot of money. I have seen my wallet go down 40% in a single day and a week later it's valued grow more than 80% altogether. I did not panic, I actually was dying because I did not have money to buy more at discount. The problem is that the whales are savvy investors and the common folk get easily manipulated, the whale are rich because they don´t think like normal people and unless we train ourselves to think of the market as a tool and don´t bring emotions to it, the whales will keep doing what they are good at, manipulate weak minds and emotions and profit from it.

I am by no means any sort of expert on anything financial, let alone crypto currency, but having said that I think it's obvious that where was a a tremendous surge in a large number of coins and tokens in December/January, one that in large part was driven by this world becoming known by the larger world.  

With the prices having shot up so fast in such a short period of time it seems only natural that a large number of people would want to take some of their profits especially considering how volatile this marketplace is.  Once that decline starts the FUD factor appears and people have an incentive to take whatever gains they've made rather than risking not only losing their gains but possibly falling into a negative position.  

I think in the long run the coins and tokens that have a real world use, that gain traction because of that, as well as holding to the credo of crypto which  as I understand is decentralization rather than concentration,  will have a sustained growth and one that might be not so chaotic, not sure about that but those are definitely the ones I'm looking for to put in my long term portfolio.

Super explanation, hopefully at least some newbies stop chasing the price down by panick-selling.

This is a BULL MARKET!!! Stop wetting your diaper every time the big boys shake the tree a little bit!

(Not directed at the OP, just a caring reminder to all the new money entering crypto these days..)

Yes this is a fact,but you are have you forgotten the financial institutions like wallstreet and CMEs? they are the ones who are controlling most of the exchanges not only whales,for them these whales are just planktons.

Trying to give some perspective on the current state of the altcoin marketplace. I feel like it's important that people read this and listen to this, and even inspect buy/sell orders to verify what I am saying. If we stand together to prevent this from happening and selling at deflated prices, the market can recover.

Whales (super rich people) are taking advantage of news events and FUD to bring the price down, making it look like it is in response to these events when in reality, and on inspection of buy/sell orders it is clear manipulation.


.Whales (super rich people) are taking advantage of altcoins that are on single marketplaces (Think PRL, DBC, ELIXIR). They are doing this through the use of Sell and Buy walls.

.A sell wall is when one of these whales dumps thousands of altcoins to be sold at a below market price. They have no intention of actually selling all their coins at this price whatsoever, what it actually means is that if anybody on that marketplace wants to sell their coins for whatever reason (FUD, happy with their profit, price going down) they will have to reduce their sell price to below that of the whale, otherwise everyone that wants to buy some of the altcoin will just buy from the whales seemingly endless supply. This brings the price down significantly, sending off a number of signals (people begin to think their coin is crashing so panic sell, people begin to buy into the FUD surrounding tiny news story's such as S.korea "banning" cryptocurrencys) leading to a downward spiral of the price getting lower and lower. At this point the whales work is done (and they can lift their sell wall if they so wish to)

.At the same time as creating these Sell Walls... the whale will also create a buy wall at a cheaper price than their already reduced sell wall. This means that all the coins that are being sold at the price needed to get past the sell wall, will be going to that same whale and they are getting a load of coins super cheap.

This cycle just continues repeatedly, allowing the rich of the crypto world to get richer, and the poorer to loose out more. It is essential that you do not fall into this trap, and sell when there are massive manipulations of the market. The fact that these sell and buy walls exist proove that the big time investers are confident in these coins, as they are buying as many as they can and that the price will go up. If you are selling your coins now at a fear of making a loss you WILL loose out. We can all stop this from happening by HODL and not falling victim to these walls.

I appreciate I may not have explained this greatly so will go through an example.

1. Price of PRL (for sake of argument) is $1
2. Whale sees random piece of news that could affect crypto market and create FUD. Uses this to artificially reduce price of PRL
3. Whale creates massive sell order of PRL at $0.9 - This brings down average price on exchange. people start to panic and believe that PRL is crashing. Perhaps due to this minor bit of news that the whale has manipulated
4. People get scared, and want to sell their coins. However the only way to sell their coins is to sell at a price cheaper than $0.9. This brings down the price further and further as more and more people get scared into selling
5. The Whale, that has no intention of giving up on PRL, buys all the coins at the deflated price (with a buy wall cheaper than the massive sell wall they've created) thus increasing their portfolio through manipulating others into panic selling. This is what is happening currently, and you need to resist it. I know it's hard when you see your coins going down, but they will go back up (unless you have complete shitcoin). Just HODL





TL/DR = Price manipulation, especially for single market coins (mainly those on Kucoin). HODL