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Quote from: mindrust on November 13, 2020, 11:16:58 AM

Quote from: South Park on November 11, 2020, 05:26:25 PM

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

If I remember this right Pfizer's vax also provides immunity for a short period of time. (less than a year... few months) Which means, people will have to get vaxxed forever.

Another thing that doesn't make sense is, that they are insisting on the vaccines... instead of working on a druglike medication.

I don't know. Something is fishy.

Its not new anymore and talking about that smells fishy because everything is business thats why they do really make that kind of set-up on where people do need to re-vaccine every year instead
on making it as a permanent one so that the cash flow wont be disrupted.

For the talks of real situation then this isnt something new.Its part of the reality then what we can do? There are things which cant really be resolved out which would lead for us to have no choice.

For now theres nothing we can do but to wait up for the cure and also face up the reality on what we are currently experiencing.

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That your second point, I don’t think people really had the thought that there was going to be a recession until the Covid-19. With the Covid-19 and lockdown that’s when people started believing that once we get out from the lockdown there is going to be a recession.

Where I live a lot of things happened in 2019 and people were saying that they are already tired and praying for 2020, and then we got into 2020 and it seems like it’s even more worst than last year. We thought this year (2020) was going to be better.Well, we both live in different parts of the world, so what I am experiencing wouldn’t be the same for you.

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Quote from: mindrust on November 13, 2020, 11:16:58 AM

Quote from: South Park on November 11, 2020, 05:26:25 PM

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

If I remember this right Pfizer's vax also provides immunity for a short period of time. (less than a year... few months) Which means, people will have to get vaxxed forever.
Another thing that doesn't make sense is, that they are insisting on the vaccines... instead of working on a druglike medication.
I don't know. Something is fishy.

There are simply diseases whose spread is easier to prevent than to treat later using a lot of medicines, medical equipment, and medical personnel. All this will bring and brings a lot of money to pharmaceutical companies, manufacturers of medical equipment, health insurance company, but all this will not be needed in such quantities for mass vaccination of the population. That's why I sometimes wonder if this is the root of the popular conspiracy theories against vaccines and the idea of vaccination itself. By the way, there are big questions about the distribution of the Pfizer vaccine itself. The vaccine itself must be stored at minus 70 degrees Celsius, which raises a lot of questions about creating an infrastructure for storage and distribution.

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Quote from: South Park on November 11, 2020, 05:26:25 PM

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

If I remember this right Pfizer's vax also provides immunity for a short period of time. (less than a year... few months) Which means, people will have to get vaxxed forever.

Another thing that doesn't make sense is, that they are insisting on the vaccines... instead of working on a druglike medication.

I don't know. Something is fishy.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on November 11, 2020, 11:29:38 PM

Despite your dark view of reality, but you have said the truth in most of the things that you have talked about. There are some people who do not like to know the truth and try to ignore it and try to delude themselves that we live in a beautiful world, but unfortunately, reality is quite the opposite.
What I liked most about your saying in the end is that we have forgotten God, and this is absolutely true. Humans have been led after matter and technology and have forgotten their Creator. For me as a believer in God, I see that all these economic and natural disasters that happen in our world today are due to divine anger as a result of human beings turning away from their Creator, but unfortunately They didn't understand all of these warnings and quickly forget the lessons.

indeed in any case we have to believe again. that after all, we are just humans with many weaknesses. man has been blinded by all the luxuries of the world, perhaps as someone who believes in the master, it is true that God is teaching us all lessons. not only on the basis of coincidence or world phenomena, but this is a kind of warning so that we are always aware that someone is in control of everything. Regardless of the current world disasters, there are always things we can learn from.

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Quote from: South Park on November 11, 2020, 05:26:25 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 11, 2020, 01:47:36 PM

Now it is reported that the immunity fades after about six months as people who had recovered catch the disease again. This is actually a really bad news. As far as I understand it, no vaccine would be of great help since you would then have to be vaccinated every six months or so. I don't particularly believe either that a vaccine is only available to the elites provided it exists in the first place. It simply makes no sense because a free vaccine for all is less risk for everyone, elites included

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

It is too early to tell

Basically, the virus has been around a little over half a year (on a world scale), so we have to wait at least as much until there are enough data to arrive at a reliable conclusion regarding this possibility. But from what I heard, there is not any pronounced tendency, dependency or relationship. In other words, the second contraction can be milder or worse

And this is what you actually must expect given how mutable the virus is. They say that people never contract flu again simply because it is always a different strain of flu. It seems to be the case with the coronavirus as there are many strains of it, and it is impossible to be immune to all of them (apart from quickly losing immunity to a previously contracted one)

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Despite your dark view of reality, but you have said the truth in most of the things that you have talked about. There are some people who do not like to know the truth and try to ignore it and try to delude themselves that we live in a beautiful world, but unfortunately, reality is quite the opposite.
What I liked most about your saying in the end is that we have forgotten God, and this is absolutely true. Humans have been led after matter and technology and have forgotten their Creator. For me as a believer in God, I see that all these economic and natural disasters that happen in our world today are due to divine anger as a result of human beings turning away from their Creator, but unfortunately They didn't understand all of these warnings and quickly forget the lessons.

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Quote from: South Park on November 11, 2020, 05:26:25 PM

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

As I recall, the results of scientific studies revealed that just easy symptoms of occurrence of this disease does not allow the body to build strong immunity and it is therefore likely recurrent disease. Well, if a normal stable immunity was not developed the previous time,then in theory, and a strong gain to the body again should not be. Therefore, I believe that in this case, in the coming weather seasons, we should make a big bet on mass vaccination, and then rely on mutations of the coronavirus, which will make it not so dangerous for humans.

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Quote from: deisik on November 11, 2020, 01:47:36 PM

It seems that there's no herd immunity with the coronavirus

Now it is reported that the immunity fades after about six months as people who had recovered catch the disease again. This is actually a really bad news. As far as I understand it, no vaccine would be of great help since you would then have to be vaccinated every six months or so. I don't particularly believe either that a vaccine is only available to the elites provided it exists in the first place. It simply makes no sense because a free vaccine for all is less risk for everyone, elites included

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on October 31, 2020, 12:54:29 PM

There is no vaccine actually. If it was, it would have been made. Or quite possibly, a vaccine is already made but is not available to public but to only elites. Corona can be cured only through herd immunity, people gotta have to be infected to build passive immunity instead of relying on a hope for vaccine!

It seems that there's no herd immunity with the coronavirus

Now it is reported that the immunity fades after about six months as people who had recovered catch the disease again. This is actually a really bad news. As far as I understand it, no vaccine would be of great help since you would then have to be vaccinated every six months or so. I don't particularly believe either that a vaccine is only available to the elites provided it exists in the first place. It simply makes no sense because a free vaccine for all is less risk for everyone, elites included

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Many things are working well in my country since the government demand more money from Central bank, to grow the economy which covid-19 has collapsed over 8 month in the country. Now many people have return back to their work and also many companies are working as usual which is helping the citizens to experience positive change in the country.
Government are still try to make sure they get the original vaccine for the virus that is killing citizens every day by day in the country. Many are in insolation center receiving treatment which is not earn any results for their health, that is still making them to find it difficult to recover from the covid-19 base on the government have never get the original vaccine to cure the virus.
I think with the great step the government has took concerning this covid-19 show that original vaccine will soon be available for the country.

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on October 19, 2020, 03:54:33 PM

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The list you made is really exhausting to look at as it depicts the reality we’re facing right now. However, it’s not an excuse to back down and just give up on what life throws at us. This time has been very challenging to most of us, but we can always make way and build an opportunity from unfortunate events.

This year taught the majority to adapt to the sudden changes and be more flexible and not rigid. Regardless the unpleasant circumstances that took place and happening at the moment, life must always go on. Nothing will happen if we’ll just sulk at the corner and watch our world fall apart. We must adapt and go with the current.

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Quote from: Salauddin1994 on October 19, 2020, 09:46:42 PM

Climate change affects all of these conditions but it is true that it is not possible to completely cure the corona virus until a vaccine is available so far no scientist or physician has been able to figure out the exact method of inventing the vaccine. Everyone is relying on god different countries are following different methods to prevent their own security the real situation is that it is not possible to cure this virus at once it may take two to three years.

There is no vaccine actually. If it was, it would have been made. Or quite possibly, a vaccine is already made but is not available to public but to only elites. Corona can be cured only through herd immunity, people gotta have to be infected to build passive immunity instead of relying on a hope for vaccine!

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According to analysis everything will start working well.
Covid-19 is a virus that really collapse so many countries business which some are still finding it difficult to go out to do their business because of the lockdown the government has put on ground. Many people are still experiencing social distances and washing of hands not to spread the virus.
Since some country has discovered the vaccine for the covid-19 it will go to be a great solution to the country. With the things the government has put in place show that it will go to be great to the country.

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1.How the hell is going to pay for all the covid madness ?

Some government are do everything possible to restore their economy back. More money has been printed to make sure everything is fix to bring the economy back as usual.
It will be great with this strategies the government is trying to put on ground.

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Quote from: darewaller on October 30, 2020, 09:38:14 AM

Well, there is a simple analogy that environmentalists use and I love it; "humanity is like a virus for earth, right now earth is having a fever and its getting bigger, by the time she has a big enough fever the virus' (us) will die and she will get better" and I think it makes perfect sense

It doesn't actually make any sense

Okay, people are hurting Mother Nature. But our impact is incomparable to global disasters of entirely natural origin like a supervolcano erupting and freezing Earth for enough years to kill 99% of existing species (think Yellowstone). And I'm not even speaking about dangers of an asteroid smashing Earth to pieces. Ironically, in this vein humans can be considered a safety net or insurance for Earth as we won't let that happen even if right now we can't do much. In other words, the price paid is definitely worth it by any prudent investor's measure (read, such rhetoric is typical environmentalist bullshit)

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Well, there is a simple analogy that environmentalists use and I love it; "humanity is like a virus for earth, right now earth is having a fever and its getting bigger, by the time she has a big enough fever the virus' (us) will die and she will get better" and I think it makes perfect sense.

Overpopulation is not something you can control, what are you going to do tell people to not have children?
You can't do that, it would be against freedom of rights, people should have as many kids as they want because its their own personal decision.

Does it affect the whole world? Of course it does, but no matter how much it affects the world telling someone they can have only 1 kid and second kid is banned would be too harsh. We just need to fix the climate with all the pollution, if we can do that, rest will be easy.

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Quote from: nomenclatur on October 30, 2020, 07:14:47 AM

You do not need panic about coronavirus every problem there must be a solution for all countries want to get out of this bad situation and most importantly everyone must cooperate to break the spread of this virus until a strong vaccine is found in the near future also the vaccine will soon be found by experts all needed Time don't panic because if you are too panicked then it will become even worse.

This is not a good year for us due to the global pandemic, many people lost their job, but we have to make efforts to get through this problem.
Nevertheless, we should aware of the current conditions and the state of our country which is prone to crises if the government doesn't manage the financial affairs and monetary policy to strengthen economies and emerging markets. Take care of ourselves and keep striving for life.

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You do not need panic about coronavirus every problem there must be a solution for all countries want to get out of this bad situation and most importantly everyone must cooperate to break the spread of this virus until a strong vaccine is found in the near future also the vaccine will soon be found by experts all needed Time don't panic because if you are too panicked then it will become even worse.

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Quote from: samputin on October 29, 2020, 07:03:01 PM

I think some of the situations you've stated are already happening even before Covid — climate change, inflation, overpopulation. We already knew about that before. It's just that, this year, it brought us more stress because of the pandemic. I mean, it's like our problems were increasing instead of decreasing. And yes, it is exhausting — physically, emotionally, mentally.

But I must say that I'm proud of us human beings. We're still here, we're still fighting, we're still alive. As a saying goes in our country, "As long as there is life, there is hope." We should not let go of that hope. Let's focus on the brighter side of the equation even though life seems like a never ending darkness. We have to adapt, we have to move forward. Better days are coming.

Yes, you are right. Everything that happens now was so stressful and will definitely drained us to think that the end of this crisis is yet to see. Indeed, we should be proud and grateful being fully alive and safe during this strange time. It wasn't so easy to fight and continue moving on with all the losses that we had for almost a year of struggling to survive. It only proves that God is still with us and will never leave as in the midst of pandemic. We just need to be strong and keep our faith, as well as not overthinking about the things that we cannot control, nor have the capability of changing it. Everything happens for a reason. Wether an act of Man, or an Act of God, all this things brought some lessons to humankind and it will be over soonest, I believe. We just be positive always.

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