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Topic: The Real Story | What is considered manipulation? - page 2. (Read 3030 times)

hero member
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To be perfectly honest, it's funny to watch the Speculation board after I run transactions on Mt. Gox.  Everyone thinks they know what happened and come up with these crazy ideas as to who is manipulating the market.  I guess that's why it's here.

The truth is, it's nothing more than trading.  We all try to get the best price for our USD/BTC trades.  Why it's called manipulation when I trade thousands at a time vs hundreds I don't know.  Maybe it's the fact that the market really isn't that big and feels like it's being "controlled" by these large transactions.  Should I not trade anymore? If you played with the same volume I do, you'd see that building a "wall" to add support allows you to pick up or sell more coins at a better price.  It's really that simple.

So tell me, is it REALLY manipulation?


One strategy is where a trader buys some shares then put a limit buy order for a lot more shares a little above the market price.  Let the algo wars begin.
sr. member
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"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
When the price is falling and someone puts in 50K bitcoin bidwall to stop the price from falling that is manipulation to me.

If they wanted to buy bitcoins why the 50K bidwall right bellow the falling price, why not let it fall further and buy bitcoins cheaper?

Its all manipulation.



Price is falling and i need to sell coins... Why not?  Again, its called support.
hero member
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When the price is falling and someone puts in 50K bitcoin bidwall to stop the price from falling that is manipulation to me.

If they wanted to buy bitcoins why the 50K bidwall right bellow the falling price, why not let it fall further and buy bitcoins cheaper?

Its all manipulation.

vip
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AKA: gigavps
To be perfectly honest, it's funny to watch the Speculation board after I run transactions on Mt. Gox.  Everyone thinks they know what happened and come up with these crazy ideas as to who is manipulating the market.  I guess that's why it's here.

The truth is, it's nothing more than trading.  We all try to get the best price for our USD/BTC trades.  Why it's called manipulation when I trade thousands at a time vs hundreds I don't know.  Maybe it's the fact that the market really isn't that big and feels like it's being "controlled" by these large transactions.  Should I not trade anymore? If you played with the same volume I do, you'd see that building a "wall" to add support allows you to pick up or sell more coins at a better price.  It's really that simple.

So tell me, is it REALLY manipulation?


It's called making a "profit".

It might be a new concept to the ones crying about a manipulator.

I guess it is easier to blame some mysterious "manipulator" when you lose in the market than to look inward and learn from your mistakes.
newbie
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So tell me, is it REALLY manipulation?

When you do it telling me (and only me) in advance, yes.
vip
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sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
To be perfectly honest, it's funny to watch the Speculation board after I run transactions on Mt. Gox.  Everyone thinks they know what happened and come up with these crazy ideas as to who is manipulating the market.  I guess that's why it's here.

The truth is, it's nothing more than trading.  We all try to get the best price for our USD/BTC trades.  Why it's called manipulation when I trade thousands at a time vs hundreds I don't know.  Maybe it's the fact that the market really isn't that big and feels like it's being "controlled" by these large transactions.  Should I not trade anymore? If you played with the same volume I do, you'd see that building a "wall" to add support allows you to pick up or sell more coins at a better price.  It's really that simple.

So tell me, is it REALLY manipulation?
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