Topic: The reality is 99.9% members can never rank up with the new merit system. - page 5. (Read 4097 times)

I've done that, and I didn't expect to receive any merits, but now I have to decide who should get the sMerit that I have to award.

28 activity in under 2 days as well.

Actually seeing the reality now that the merit system will make it difficult for new members to rise. But anyway I as a junior member was just trying to give maximum quality posts without stopping until someday there are willing to give me a merit. Let it flow.

Month and months have passed, the reality is that the OP is right.
Show me one Member which have ranked up to FULL Memeber or in fact a Full member to Sr member in this time period which is not a bounty manager.

The truth is that the amounts of Merits which are going around is too small, people do not merit you even if your post is useful.

You will argue that " too bad" wirte better and more posts, i will reply - go and register new account and let see how many Merits you will get in what time period, wil you become a Full member in a year, 2 years or more?

Why the urgent need to "rank up?" Does a low rank cause you to bounce checks, be late to work, cause your car to die, impregnate your cat, give you cooties or give you the runs? If so, how did you survive previously?
Your rank does not hinder you in any way from meaningful forum participation.

I voted yes, but it may take some time before we rank up. Sad reality it is.

at first couple minutes of reading the title before clicking, while  I'm reading detail information of merit system and i noted myself , those selfish people will not use their merit to level the others.

However, after voting " NO " and read those comments on the frist page, i have changed my mind and believe this system will bring the new wind rolling in bitcointalk. that's why people  say : read more learn more 

If they change abit the way people get and spend merit points , it will be better. Like using upvote button, the more upvote, the more merits will be gained depends on the current rank

I can understand why the merit system was brought in. Having a system where rank is determined by the number of posts you make will inevitably lead to people making useless posts just to get rank. The merit system has eliminated that to a large degree but it has been replaced by merit farming and is also percieved as being unfair to new members. I think we should consider the current system a deeply flawed improvement on what went on before but something that also needs to be improved to discourage merit farming and make it more fair to newer members.

Yeah, it should be like this due to the terrible fact the it has become landfill area of newcomers who dumped their shits and try getting money from their shitshows.
It should be like this to prevent those ones ranking up and minimize their opportunities to get money from shit-efforts.

This forum is going to be just like a shareware version for 95% of new users. No signatures, no avatars, no nothing, no fun. I am not gonna rack my brain on how to get merit.

So disrespectful to the newbies.

Please allow links in the signature for members with no merit or remove the merit system or people will go to other forums. This forum driven by a 2006 engine is not going to be the only place to discuss cryptos certainly.

Honestly, most of newbies/ newcomers of the forum joined the forum recently (particularly since the second half of 2017) tend to focus mainly on getting money through signature campaigns, bounties, airdrops.
They simply want to get money, don't spend a couple of seconds (I would like to emphasize, seconds, not minutes or hours) to think about how they can contribute to the forum and help other users. Consequently, they have almost not learned many knowledgeable things about crypto and the forum structures, most interesing, serious boards. I hope that they might change a bit over time, gradually, in order to contribute more.

Agree! They should limit their times spent on alt child boards, and turn to Meta, Beginner & help, Bitcoin Technical Support, etc. instead (serious and useful boards).

I've almost ranked up but yes it's a lot harder now especially for those like me haven't English as 1st language. So is definitely possible, easier for someone and harder for others.
I would like to know if there is a list of people who ranked up.

Well, I refreshed the page and it gave the second one without my acknowledge.

In any cases, that post is not a shit post. It is a post. The fact that it shouldn't contribuite to your rank is something different.

There are people that speak just like that and simply. It shouldn't count to the rank, but it is still a post. Anyway, it is not my job to say how it can be in a different way counted the spam or the "shitposters", i do not own the forum or getting paid from it, but for sure there are more other ways.

I like somehow the merit idea, it's great, but you can't offer the possibility of ranking up just to some users.

The new merit system is a bright idea , and only worthy people who have what it takes to publish qualified posts will level up , and the people who keeps complaining about this merit system have only one excuse: the merit system is holding them back from climing to Higher ranks and they are not getting the merit that they don't desserve.
I have an advice for them make your posts better and you ll get recognized and you ll get rewarded by the merit you deserve, you will also get promoted to Higher positions.

I think your difficulty may stem from the fact that you appear to spend your time in the alt section, and you have said that you are here to earn from your signature. Many of the more established members want Bitcoin Talk to be an information and help exchange site, and also as a place to relax and talk about cryptos and the emerging economies. Posts from members who are attempting to display their signatures in return for payment, and pay scant regard to the thread topic, or the content of their posts, make it difficult for the more serious members to enjoy the forum. You need to distance yourself from the alts, and pay more attention to Bitcoin in my opinion.

You gave him 2 merits, just sayin'.

I don't quite get what you mean when you say there should be a better way to tell who's a spammer.  That's one of the most obvious things to me, and the easiest reason to see why bitcointalk is near unreadable at this point, easier even than discerning who's trying to scam or trade merit points.  As they say, spamming is like pornography--it's hard to define, exactly, but you know it when you see it.  In fact, we've been graciously provided an example, not only in this thread, but on this very page:

That's a shitpost, a piece of spam.  Created for who knows what reason; probably it's to gain activity or to get paid in a bounty.  I have not checked this user's signature space, and I have sigs and avatars blocked. 

Also, I probably would've given you a merit here, for the sole reason that you're making coherent arguments in English that's readily understandable.  Unfortunately I just handed out the last of my sMerits.  I owe you one.

I do understand why the merit system has been introduced, I really do. There are numerous times i was frustrated at reading some threads with so much shit posts you had to wheed through them. But let's be realistic, a lot of members are also just trying to post quality posts, but not all of us are journalists with the talent of writing article like posts. Some just want to say what's on their mind and be done with it.

Since the merit system was introduced I thought to myself, this is a good system to lower the total of bs posts. That's a good thing. However, I feel that the merit system hasn't been thought out really well. I'm trying to contribute and make some quality posts on here but ranking up to the next rank is almost impossible from my point of view. I'm still jr. member with 98 activity.. The merit system is introduced literally 2 days before I would rank up in the old system. That's been a frustration point for me.

I'd like to participate with a signature campaign (with a clickable link) but due to this merit system it has become a drag to rank up, even to member. Let alone the next rank.

I think it would have been better to introduce the merit system, but also 'earn' merit gradually. Like 1 merit per 2 weeks (activity update) or even 1 per month. This way new users wouldn't have the feeling that it is impossible to rank up. They have 2 options, write excellent quality posts and hoping for someone with enough sMerit and feeling generous to notice their posts or waiting a long time, or just both.

Interesting. I really do think that somehow the system will change. It just can't stay like this.

There should be other ways of finding who is a spammer

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Seriosity - Early 16th century; earliest use found in Robert Henryson (d. c1490), poet. From post-classical Latin seriositas from seriosus + classical Latin -tās. Compare Middle French or French † sériosité. ( from the Oxford dictionary)

Don't you just love it when these words from 1490 surface in posts. Bitcoin Talk may be the cutting edge of crypto discussions, but it never forgets the handles.

you just won a merit! congrats!