Topic: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO - page 5. (Read 35415 times)

Wrong. Ever tried sending say $50 to an individual across the world where that individual does not have a bank account, credit card PayPal etc.? If one takes the position that the only valid legal  payments are from the 1% to the 0.0001% where electronic fiat payments actually work then I would agree with the premise that there is no legal use for crypto, but when one actually tries to make a payment to not just a member of the poor but even to a member of the middle class electronic fiat payments fail miserably especially across international borders.

By the way buying drugs on the dark markets involves payments to the 0.0001% so that is not the primary application of crypto.

The below picture.. was not about "buddy certifications".



It was about warning people about fraud, unfair practices etc.
Remember when Martha Stewart and Bernie Madoff was arrested ?
I guess that was bad right ? They should have let them go ?

AML ?


Stealing ? (taxes)

Then i suggest you don't ever call 911 for services and don't put your garbage out for pickup or drive on public roads etc......

This whole anti-govt thing you got going on is getting a bit silly.
If you need to fight them then can i suggest you create your own internet ?
Who do you think manages the web for all of the USA ? it's the US DOD running the backbone / relays etc.

I love how your type love to reap the rewards every step of the way when it comes to the services provided by taxation.. except you just feel like it's not your obligation to contribute to paying your proper share.

You remind me of our Canadian Native Indians who get a massive tax break on things like Tobacco and get their own land etc and are not forced to pay the same tax as every other Canadian except they are entitled to ALL of the same services we are and much much MORE !

I used the title because I believe in the project. I have been buying XMR since it was trading at a stable .50 - 1.00 area. Great project and tech.

PS. My account Blazin8888 was hacked a few months back around the same time when the bitcointalk forum passwords went up for sale on the dark web. I cant get my account back, have contacted Theymos.

What other usage is there for crypto ?  DM taken in the broader sense of "economic liberty" of course, because that's what DM are: free exchange without govs stealing (taxes), without govs imposing their buddy's certifications, without govs imposing their forms of protectionism, without govs imposing who may trade what with whom against what tariffs, ....

If the economic act you want to do with crypto is fully legal, why not do it with fiat ?

It depends what aspect you are interested in. I hope you can check price how it moved from January till August or when this tread started. I think OP thought just general awareness or maybe just price.  That is my suspicion, you could PM him and ask what about Monero surprised him that much to use this Tittle.


Monero is just on beginning of its path so had not accomplished almost nothing. It is just there for everyone to test and use it. I have no really vision what will be with Monero long term.  It is an experiment.  I do believe a successful.

That's exactly my point.  People aiming for "law abiding crypto" are deluded.  In as much as crypto will be law abiding, it will be entirely centralized by government (by compulsory key escrow or whatever so that it is theirs whenever they want to, like on Cyprus) and just a wasteful, clumsy form of fiat.  And all the rest will end up being outlawed in any case.

No there is not.
And even if there was such a thing, goverments wouldn't allow it and just remove people that brought it in from exsistence  

Why should ordinary Joe use anything else but fiat to buy a cup of coffee ?  It is faster, easier, more legally "protected", there's no crypto hassle, no peer-to-peer hassle, no miners, just your trusted bank which is trusted because it is part of the government/establishment.

There's nothing that can compete with fiat if it is to be totally law abiding, is there ?

Well, point me then to one of your explanations, because I never saw one.  I only saw that each time I asked you, you told me that you weren't going to answer "because you already did so in the past".

My point is that a fully law-abiding crypto has no use over fiat.  So I think that someone who is at the same time claiming that crypto should be fully law-abiding, should not be into crypto, or is making some logical mistake, or is simply in it for the greater-fool game, at which point I think that wanting to attract people into a Ponzi scheme is a dishonest (but potentially lucrative) thing to do.

What is the goal ? DM usage ? Typical consumer adoption ? Bank usage ? What ?
Realistically i can not see much past DM usage.. and can we consider that a success ?

Success will drag profit along with it.
You get one then then other.
i don't care about coin prices.
What i care about is success.

What has Monero risen from ? Best i can tell ..market price.
Based on what ? 3% Dark market usage ?

I have said before if you all believe in the project then by all means go nuts.. invest away.
I just don't see how Monero is going anywhere or any other combative anon styled coin.
If Monero is going to be a problem they know who all the Monero guys are and will be at their doors instantly.

Think of this people..
Trump is blocking Muslims on the idea that they are a *potential* terrorism threat.
Anon coins are not a "potential" threat.. they ARE a threat !

So the way i see it is you are investing in a future fight.
Who says Monero is going to win ?
They can only survive by staying low key flying under the radar as a niche coin.
Think about it people.. don't be blinded by rhetoric and idealism and false hope.

Monero is only useful if you're buying something illegal but I'm doubt if it can ever get more attention. Anonymous coins has very small niche for adoption Monero has no marketing plan and it is only associated with criminals. It also doesn't help to spread a word about XMR. Having this said, how can you expect ordinary Joe to use this currency, for example, buying a cup of coffe? Why he needs it? In my opinion, Monero should continue to do what it is doing but I do not expect the rise of adoption or price. 

This topic is not about why Spoetnik is "interested" in Crypto.. which i have explained around here endlessly then been bitched at for explaining it.
I see why you are digging and it's not going to bear fruit (you are wasting your time)

I came here because of an interest in crypto currencies in general.
Then i seen money could be made which is fine.. it comes with the territory as you just explained Dino
Point being is that i was 100% anti-laws & regulations with crypto like everyone else.
I had not given it enough thought or had the chance to have experience shape that opinion yet.
In time i figured it's inevitable there needs to be a compromise for it to function (it being any widely adopted and used digital currency)

What i find offensive is shill's here painting a deceitful picture to the public.

Do you all have any bloody god damn clue how frustratingly insulting it is to tell ALL of the Monero idiots what fluffypony said when his dice site got hacked while they sit there and attack you personally and deny it like a horse refusing to drink water ?
..only for them to copy my words when it suits them.

Or have them neg me over the Moenro French Police Fraud (he's not an employee) mysterious apology topic ?

I have already posted many times before how they say one thing then the compete opposite later then seem to forget or pretend to forget.
I have already said it's because they spew so much bullshit here they can't even remember what they have said in the past.
A huge massive red-flag of a liar !

This topic means what ?
All of you know damn well it's not about the failed Jaxx wallet or dice site hack.. or... it's about coin price.
Which means it does not even belong here.. so why is it here ? And which puppet-account posted it ?

They super bumped that other 900 page topic here 24/7 called "Monero Speculation" and i asked mod's for a year or two why it was allowed to be here when they were clearly keyword spamming with the title making sure it stays on page one (almost always at the top of the page) year after year.
Eventually i was stunned they finally moved it.. especially when they often did not even use it as "speculation" but simply as MSN chat for Monero shill's.

This topic ?
It's not about laws yes or no now is it ?
Is it about Spoetnik? nope.. wrong again LOL

It's about shill's painting a picture and bending the god damn rules here every fucking step of the way while playing dumb and attacking people personally.
Classy shit huh guys.

Look at Mr Fungibility who claims he has me on ignore (when it suits him)
Yesterday he changed the name of his topic to "_" with out the quotes LOL
Then moved it to off-topic.
Why ? because the last comments i made on it buried his ass again.. on the topic HE MADE !
ON ME hahahahaha 
"The three types of Spoetnik posts"
Why did he create that and why did the same cult guys neg me ruining my rating with lying ?
Heard of Monero ?

I think you can all tell these Monero guys have no integrity, class or credibility.
I literally could write a book (the size of a phone book) Note: Millennial kids it's what old people use to have to get phone numbers.
..on all their years worth of bullshit shenanigans.

Proof ? It's on the forum ..use the search button LOL

Rise ?
Well let me say i don't think the price of the coin has any significant meaning at all.
It's meaningless fake metric of success.

So what did they say a couple comments ago ?
They wrote lines of code ? uhhh what ? hahahhaha
That is "the rise" ?

Bobbing & weaving.. Monero has accomplished nothing what so ever and i don't even get how it's sitting at $13 a coin.
I would understand it if it seemed like it had a real potential to get some major adoption world wide.
And when the recent news had a headline saying the FBI is looking into Monero.. uhhh ?

All they do is sell innovashunz to investards... with one day.
Guess what ? ..the world at large does not LIKE Dark Market bullshit.
That has historically been a massive barrier to Bitcoin adoption.
Know how i figured that out ? People on the street told me to my face !
THEN.. i fucking Googled it and seen the web saying the same.

So bragging about DM adoption here a little while back ?
Yeah and then the subsequent FBI News message.. which is your last warning idiots. LOL

The shill's know better.
They know there is no chance in hell at getting major adoption because of the fact it is an ANON coin.

But they will keep cawing like crows about it's rise & rise of course.
Skipping over the part where they actually accomplished anything at all in the last 3 years and how they plan to conquer the world "one day"

It's the equivalent of a campaign quote i seen in a magazine by Trump while waiting in a doctors office..
When asked how he plans to get his campaign PROMISES completed the POLITICIAN said and i quote..
Do i need to point out how that is insane ?
Does that REALLY NEED to be said ?

His deporting illegals campaign agenda was addressed by Hillary publicly..
She said she looked at the matter and realized the logistics of it would be staggering.. nearly impossible.
She went into DETAILS about all the various problems it would pose and how difficult it would be to do technically.
And she knows because slept in the fucking white house LOL
What does Drumpf know ? How to run his mouth on his Reality TV show ? (which i am a fan of by the way)

Trumps cool & all, but i just don't feel it was appropriate hiring him for the job with no experience or a realistic detailed plan.

SO...

What is Monero's plan ?

And that Dino is WHAT i have been asking here over and over. 

PS:
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You never repeated why you are interested in crypto in the first place, and why on earth you would think it has something to offer over fiat, if the idea is to fully comply to the laws.

Because if crypto is fully complying to the laws, I don't see what advantages it can bring over fiat.  In fact, I can only see problems.  Fiat is much better than crypto if you're fully complying, no ?

Well, there are a few points to be made.  If you want to fight a powerful enemy, you run of course the risk to get hurt (in this case, being put in a cage).  That goes with it.  But the fact that you can get hurt is not always a sufficient reason not to go to war.

So that Indian was right.  He didn't recognize those laws.  Of course, he got hurt, and he lost his battle, but that's no reason not to fight it.  If you're afraid to lose the battle, you shouldn't go to war, and become a slave.  You can also refuse to be a slave and fight.  Of course, chances are you will lose, but there's nothing wrong with that.  That's the name of the game.  The fact that your enemy wins, doesn't mean that you should comply.  But of course in doing so, you take a risk.

My second point, though, is, if you thing you should surrender before even fighting, why on earth are you considering crypto currencies, and why don't you fully comply with fiat ?

....Specially when they acknowledge that they're promoting a tech stock, not a store of value - like I've been saying all along