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February 23, 2022, 07:42:16 AM
#68
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Welt Am Draht
October 27, 2019, 07:03:31 PM
#67
the whole thing is just an elaborate ruse.

if craig handed over wallets in this manner, ira would have immediately moved the coins. if the coins are inaccessible, then the point is moot anyway. so until i see 2009 coins moving on the blockchain, i don't buy these outlandish tales.

Doesn't he get his untold riches when the tulip trust sends the bonded courier who might have some part of some key if he can find some woman he's never met or heard of on January 1st?

Not long now.

Boy, am I nervous.
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October 27, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
#66
proof or it didn't happen. have you seen satoshi coins moving on the blockchain? Wink

a judge ordered craig to pay, but that doesn't mean he paid.

last i heard, both sides filed for an extension so they could engage in settlement talks.

here's my take: craig obviously doesn't own shit. ira and his attorneys already know this. the court order is just leverage to force craig into forking over as much cash as possible. this will be settled out of court.

No, I havent. But were not these coins in several different wallets?
If CSW have them stored in a hdd, he could put half of those wallets in a pendrive and give it to Ira.
This, however, does not means he have the password for them.

Now, if the hdd itself is encrypted (and not just the individual wallets), he cant even send these wallets to Ira, which is even worse for Shelby's conspiracy theory.

the whole thing is just an elaborate ruse.

if craig handed over wallets in this manner, ira would have immediately moved the coins. if the coins are inaccessible, then the point is moot anyway. so until i see 2009 coins moving on the blockchain, i don't buy these outlandish tales.
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October 27, 2019, 08:27:06 AM
#65
Relaying a reply as an impartial messenger.

I dont believe CSW will break this encryption.

The global elite who created Bitcoin don’t need to break any encryption. The Ira Kleiman story is fabricated. Sheesh gullible sheepeople.

Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?

proof or it didn't happen. have you seen satoshi coins moving on the blockchain? Wink

a judge ordered craig to pay, but that doesn't mean he paid.

last i heard, both sides filed for an extension so they could engage in settlement talks.

here's my take: craig obviously doesn't own shit. ira and his attorneys already know this. the court order is just leverage to force craig into forking over as much cash as possible. this will be settled out of court.

This specific issue was already discussed in the Long-term advance notice thread wherein I pointed out that Craig Wright (probably intentionally created/incited the court case against himself by fabricating the entire story about Ira Kleiman and) will end up selling his free airdropped Bitcoin Core protocol BTC (those with an address that begins with 3) on the exchanges after he covertly splits the chain with the huge mining farm their group controls. This dumping on exchanges will kick off the collapse in the price of BTC Core. He will retain his legacy BTC (those with an address that begins with 1) since those are going to $1+ million each.

Even if you believe that Craig Wright is not a silly puppet of the very serious global elite who I posited created Bitcoin and their posited Facebook Libra + Bitcoin 666 masterplan, don’t forget that the Trilema.com dude is presumably also on board this donations attack (he is my original source of the idea before Craig even mentioned it two years later) who was also the Ethereum DAO attacker, had amassed ~0.5 million BTC from his investments in for example SatoshiDice. Note lately it seems the Trilema dude has been attempting to make it appear that his group is in disarray and lost all their fortune. I presume this is for optics to fool the plebs. Seems every long-term hodler Bitcoin $billionaire seems to pretend they’ve gone mad and lost all their BTC. Perhaps it has something to do with not wanting to have the entire world of gangsters aiming to drill a hole in your leg.



Don’t forget he was my silver business friend before Bitcoin and I gave him the thumbs up to sell $100k of silver to buy 10,000 BTC in 2012/2013.

only $80k though? disappointing. my asks are all in the 6-figure range. see you on the order book, shelby. Wink

In addition to the estimates of $80k which I triangulated from multiple analyses, I conservatively expect it to remain within the dark band above the stock-to-flows valuation model if peaking at the halving instead of well after:



pinning all his hopes on craig wright is a baffling decision, but maybe it'll pay off. it's a high reward bet---someone's bound to take it.

Note I’m not selling all my legacy BTC which I expect to continue up to $1+ million (while the Bitcoin Core/SegWit blockchain forks-off and dies) if you can find an OTC exchange to transact on if the SegWit donations (poison pill defense) “attack” bankrupts most of the exchanges, Bakkt, CME, etc..

The majority is always wrong:


At present, various media, crypto-Twitter and other involved parties continue to frequently mention Bitcoin’s 2020 halving. The majority infers that the asset will rise significantly either before or after the halving and this assumption is  based on analysis of previous halvings.

This hype and anticipation could be the perfect storm of circumstances to create a “buy the rumor, sell the news” type of situation, at least in the short term.

Essentially, in many markets, a highly anticipated event will often spike the price of related assets in the days leading up to that event. Once the event occurs, the prices for those assets often drop notably.

@gentlemand, yeah right I don’t have any skin in the game.  Wink  Wink Your “civilized” groupthink culture across the pond can’t even fight your way out of wet brown paper bag to accomplish Brexit. Remain focused on your drinking and oblivious to the real world. @infofront presumably (very rarely) posts on my behalf (if I beg him enough) so that I can either make a fool of myself and/or so that (I can be vindicated and) at least everyone will have had access to the information so everyone can decide for themselves. Perhaps you prefer to remain inebriated in a very politely ignorant, information-controlled, gestapo “civilization” sipping spiked tea, twiddling your thumbs while Rome burns.
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Welt Am Draht
October 27, 2019, 04:24:31 AM
#64
No, I havent. But were not these coins in several different wallets?
If CSW have them stored in a hdd, he could put half of those wallets in a pendrive and give it to Ira.
This, however, does not means he have the password for them.

Now, if the hdd itself is encrypted (and not just the individual wallets), he cant even send these wallets to Ira, which is even worse for Shelby's conspiracy theory.

I dont believe CSW will break this encryption. I think he is not even trying, its just a show to promote BSV.
But if bitcoin goes down, so does BSV.

How can you believe one single word of any conceivable angle of the entirety of this tale? There's no proof Dave Kleiman had anything to do with BTC. There's no proof of anything about Craigy other than the proof he himself has provided of his being a corpulent fantasist.

Does that



read like the Satoshi we know, or anyone who got within a trillion miles of him?
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October 27, 2019, 04:16:25 AM
#63
Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?

proof or it didn't happen. have you seen satoshi coins moving on the blockchain? Wink

a judge ordered craig to pay, but that doesn't mean he paid.

last i heard, both sides filed for an extension so they could engage in settlement talks.

here's my take: craig obviously doesn't own shit. ira and his attorneys already know this. the court order is just leverage to force craig into forking over as much cash as possible. this will be settled out of court.


No, I havent. But were not these coins in several different wallets?
If CSW have them stored in a hdd, he could put half of those wallets in a pendrive and give it to Ira.
This, however, does not means he have the password for them.

Now, if the hdd itself is encrypted (and not just the individual wallets), he cant even send these wallets to Ira, which is even worse for Shelby's conspiracy theory.

I dont believe CSW will break this encryption. I think he is not even trying, its just a show to promote BSV.
But if bitcoin goes down, so does BSV.
 

If Bitcoin goes down, and dies, every cryptocurrency also will go down and die. No other self-bootstrapped cryptocurrency will reach the same network-effects like Bitcoin in 50 years in my opinion. It's a precious breakthrough.
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October 25, 2019, 05:16:46 AM
#62
Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?

proof or it didn't happen. have you seen satoshi coins moving on the blockchain? Wink

a judge ordered craig to pay, but that doesn't mean he paid.

last i heard, both sides filed for an extension so they could engage in settlement talks.

here's my take: craig obviously doesn't own shit. ira and his attorneys already know this. the court order is just leverage to force craig into forking over as much cash as possible. this will be settled out of court.


No, I havent. But were not these coins in several different wallets?
If CSW have them stored in a hdd, he could put half of those wallets in a pendrive and give it to Ira.
This, however, does not means he have the password for them.

Now, if the hdd itself is encrypted (and not just the individual wallets), he cant even send these wallets to Ira, which is even worse for Shelby's conspiracy theory.

I dont believe CSW will break this encryption. I think he is not even trying, its just a show to promote BSV.
But if bitcoin goes down, so does BSV.
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October 24, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
#61
Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?

proof or it didn't happen. have you seen satoshi coins moving on the blockchain? Wink

a judge ordered craig to pay, but that doesn't mean he paid.

last i heard, both sides filed for an extension so they could engage in settlement talks.

here's my take: craig obviously doesn't own shit. ira and his attorneys already know this. the court order is just leverage to force craig into forking over as much cash as possible. this will be settled out of court.
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October 24, 2019, 07:26:54 AM
#60
Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?
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October 23, 2019, 06:19:18 PM
#59
Go ahead and open shorts at $80,000. I double dog dare ya. Tongue

Maybe it's time people stopped being impartial messengers?

Where are they coming from anyway? The Bitcoin.com forum? I was wondering if they were his alt accounts.
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Welt Am Draht
October 23, 2019, 06:10:26 PM
#58
pinning all his hopes on craig wright is a baffling decision, but maybe it'll pay off. it's a high reward bet---someone's bound to take it.

Believing our psychotic Antipodean friend has a bean to his name is the last bullet in the noggin of this person's cred. I don't see how any faintly rational being can believe a word of anything surrounding that particular subject.

Maybe it's time people stopped being impartial messengers?
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October 23, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
#57
Quote from: Shelby
This is obviously based on the assumption of a SegWit donations attack at the halving event in May 2020, with the need for the price to moon before the halving so then when the price is crashed by Craig Wright dumping ~1 million BTC then the SegWit (i.e. Core) blockchain will lose most of its miners and thus slow down to perhaps 1 block found every week (instead of every 10 minutes) and with the mining difficult not to be reset (without some centralized intervention) for perhaps a year or never. The inability of the SegWit blockchain to proces transactions as the price craters will cause the price to crater even more in a spiraling into the death-of-coin abyss effect.



if nothing else, the guy is consistent.

pinning all his hopes on craig wright is a baffling decision, but maybe it'll pay off. it's a high reward bet---someone's bound to take it.

only $80k though? disappointing. my asks are all in the 6-figure range. see you on the order book, shelby. Wink
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October 23, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
#56
Update from Shelby, being passed on by an impartial observer:

Quote from: Shelby
This is obviously based on the assumption of a SegWit donations attack at the halving event in May 2020, with the need for the price to moon before the halving so then when the price is crashed by Craig Wright dumping ~1 million BTC then the SegWit (i.e. Core) blockchain will lose most of its miners and thus slow down to perhaps 1 block found every week (instead of every 10 minutes) and with the mining difficult not to be reset (without some centralized intervention) for perhaps a year or never. The inability of the SegWit blockchain to proces transactions as the price craters will cause the price to crater even more in a spiraling into the death-of-coin abyss effect.



Enjoy the wild ride!
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July 29, 2019, 02:47:49 AM
#55
Quote from: Shelby

I sent this in email to Coins.ph’s support. I think this addresses Wind_FURY’s latest posts in this thread. Someone with a high IQ would have already deduced the following from my prior statements, so consider the following to be remedial education for the dimwitted.

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The point is that if you are holding your BTC in SegWit addresses that begin with a 3 instead of Satoshi's protocol addresses that begin with 1, then all your BTC is going to be taken by the miners as donations if Craig Wright fulfills his promise to restore Satoshi’s protocol. You will not have any notice nor time to react. By the time you hear about it, your BTC will be gone. Poof. Gone. Note BSV is apparently a red herring and is not Satoshi’s immutable protocol that will be restored.

Read these threads very carefully:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51584165

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.0;all

Note the plan to eventually back Libra with Satoshi’s protocol Bitcoin is not known to the public at this time. It is a speculation on how the world is going to be reshaped (eventually hyperinflation of the dollar after the strong dollar vortex) and who is really in control and why they created Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin and Libra are not about what overly idealistic (snowflake fantasies) young people think it is about. Only dimwitted idiots still do not understand that a 1 MB block size kicks everyone except the global elite off of legacy protocol Bitcoin eventually.

https://www.ccn.com/alex-jones-tells-joe-rogan-george-soros-offered-me-5-million-to-pump-bitcoin/

Satan (and extremely powerful men without any other goals to challenge them) is insatiable thus wants to own your soul. He’s not satisfied with just owning all the tangible resources of the earth. Also humanity refuses to follow the teachings of Jesus and thus desires to be enslaved, so the power vacuum of slavery must be fulfilled by someone.



Did they send you a reply back? I would have liked to see their customer support's face when he read your email. Cool

Anyone who's not delusional would know that "restoring Satoshi's protocol" would be another chain, that would not be the "BTC" ticker in the exchanges. Not worth the risk for miners.
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July 26, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
#54
Posting again as an impartial messenger.

Quote from: Shelby
I sent this in email to Coins.ph’s support. I think this addresses Wind_FURY’s latest posts in this thread. Someone with a high IQ would have already deduced the following from my prior statements, so consider the following to be remedial education for the dimwitted.

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The point is that if you are holding your BTC in SegWit addresses that begin with a 3 instead of Satoshi's protocol addresses that begin with 1, then all your BTC is going to be taken by the miners as donations if Craig Wright fulfills his promise to restore Satoshi’s protocol. You will not have any notice nor time to react. By the time you hear about it, your BTC will be gone. Poof. Gone. Note BSV is apparently a red herring and is not Satoshi’s immutable protocol that will be restored.

Read these threads very carefully:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51584165

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.0;all

Note the plan to eventually back Libra with Satoshi’s protocol Bitcoin is not known to the public at this time. It is a speculation on how the world is going to be reshaped (eventually hyperinflation of the dollar after the strong dollar vortex) and who is really in control and why they created Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin and Libra are not about what overly idealistic (snowflake fantasies) young people think it is about. Only dimwitted idiots still do not understand that a 1 MB block size kicks everyone except the global elite off of legacy protocol Bitcoin eventually.

Satan (and extremely powerful men without any other goals to challenge them) is insatiable thus wants to own your soul. He’s not satisfied with just owning all the tangible resources of the earth. Also humanity refuses to follow the teachings of Jesus and thus desires to be enslaved, so the power vacuum of slavery must be fulfilled by someone.


I would be curious about "Rogue Wave" opinions about "Native" SegWit addresses (Bech32 addresses) like the below:

bc1qwqdg6squsna38e46795at95yu9atm8azzmyvckulcc7kytlcckxswvvzej

bc1qmrmfs07jnngy8f69sln9p7lpv5dmg0lfxhdfrz

I am also curious as to why some of those "bc1qxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" addresses are so much longer than others.  Both above addresses from Block 587155.

[edited for minor typo]
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July 26, 2019, 12:36:37 PM
#53
Posting again as an impartial messenger.

I updated the following Steemit post. I want you to view the charts and read at least the first (at the very top of the post) and last link (at the very bottom of) the post, which I will discuss below.

https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/re-anonymint-countries-vulnerable-to-economic-devastation-soon-20180629t105111746z

Archive:

http://archive.is/https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/re-anonymint-countries-vulnerable-to-economic-devastation-soon-20180629t105111746z


So the charts indicate the 2014 solar (sunspot) cycle peaked ~150 which was ~20% lower then the ~190 peak of the prior two 11 year solar cycles.

The #24 solar cycle (“cooling”) bottomed in 2019.

Armstrong is making the following points:

1. Cycle #25 (“warming”) will peak at least 33% less than cycle #24 and possibly as low as 50% less.

2. We’re headed into food shortages (and thus increased food prices) due to this rapid change in the climate due the Maunder Minimum in the sun which is worsening, with a backtested scientific model projecting of a Mini-Ice Age by 2030.

3. The world stands at a precipice of a significant contagion and stagflation that will make a lot of debt unserviceable. This is the bankster’s business model:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html

(note above linked blog was written in January 2010)

So the bankster’s plan is currently at the stage before the “Onset of hyperinflation”. That hyperinflation can’t come until most people do not hold debt, because the banksters would not want to hyperinflate away the widely held debt allowing people to retain their debt financed assets without paying for them. First the banksters want to default those loans and take possession of the assets while pushing most people into poverty and dependence on socialism (in short slavery).

I add to these points that the coming inflation will not only be cost push, but also monetary. The strong dollar vortex will cause huge inflation in the other countries due to the weakening value of their local currencies. Facebook’s Libra providing a way for citizens all over the world to hold dollars will exacerbate the coming strong dollar vortex.

So first we will get the strong dollar and global stagflation, so then later (~2024 – 2028?) when the dollar is to be crashed, this future extreme stagflation in the USA (because everything imported will cost more as the dollar crashes and global economy will be toasted except Asia will be starting to grow again as the dollar crashes so demand will outstrip supply of many things due to the prior contraction outside the USA under the strong dollar). So as the dollar crashes real estate values will plummet in the USA (the exhale of foreign capital that exits after stampeding into the USD during the preceding the vortex), which will cause so many debt defaults. Then after that the bankster plan is to hyperinflate the dollar which they can do by for example backing Libra (which should be ubiquitously used outside the USA by that time because of the strong dollar vortex) with legacy Bitcoin (not the Bitcoin Core which is not Bitcoin and will be destroyed this coming May 2020). That will force the Fed to monetize the government’s $1+ trillion annual debts which will worsen after 2024 when socialism grinds the USA into the abyss after Trump is done with his second term.

In short, astute investors will become extremely wealthy (although most will lose everything because they’re not paying attention), but many people are going to end up on Universal Basic Income slavery within a decade or two.
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July 22, 2019, 02:52:11 AM
#52
Quote from: Shelby

What control have the global-elite gained over the world when the high transaction volume, efficient, permissioned, global medium-of-exchange is Facebook Libra, and backed by the slow, inefficient, low transaction volume, trustless/permissionless, reserve currency asset of Bitcoin.


Plus let's also point out that that is misinformation. The Libra white paper never made a statement of Bitcoin as its "reserve currency". Bitcoin's high volatility would be a liability.

The Libra white paper, https://libra.org/en-US/white-paper/

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Libra is designed to be a stable digital cryptocurrency that will be fully backed by a reserve of real assets — the Libra Reserve — and supported by a competitive network of exchanges buying and selling Libra. That means anyone with Libra has a high degree of assurance they can convert their digital currency into local fiat currency based on an exchange rate, just like exchanging one currency for another when traveling. This approach is similar to how other currencies were introduced in the past: to help instill trust in a new currency and gain widespread adoption during its infancy, it was guaranteed that a country’s notes could be traded in for real assets, such as gold. Instead of backing Libra with gold, though, it will be backed by a collection of low-volatility assets, such as bank deposits and short-term government securities in currencies from stable and reputable central banks.

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July 20, 2019, 01:56:58 AM
#51
Quote from: Shelby

To fool you into helping them erect a globalized 666 system. Of course they must get you to think that Bitcoin is harmless and/or beneficial in the fight against centralized corruption, in order to gain your fanatical, drooling, sheepeople-fanboy support.


To erect another one? You're not listening. But the present globalized 666 system already works. They already own 99% of everything.

Why build a self-sovereign, decentralized cryprocurrency network? They can't fully control it. Why open the Pandora's box that gives power to the users?
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July 19, 2019, 01:53:27 PM
#50
Quote from: Shelby
If I don’t reply to the next myopic thing you guys post, that doesn’t mean you’ve stated something cogent. It just means you guys are apparently not smart (and open-minded) enough to conceptualize the errors in your logic. And I’m not motivated to continue correcting you forever. If you happen to write something that I think actually pokes a hole in my conceptualization, I will surely acknowledge it if I read it. I’m fair that way.

This is my way of saying, don’t expect more replies. I’ve made my major points already.

Good riddance.

Anyone who bothered to read your text walls can see your theory is based on layer upon layer of irrational assumptions, insane religious numbskullery, and zero substantive facts. You're a wingnut. Bye now!
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July 19, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
#49
Posted as an impartial messenger, which means don’t presume I agree with the choice of wording or even the points made. Nevertheless the forum benefits from hearing all sides of an argument.

Quote from: Shelby

Quote from: Wind_FURY
Why would the global elite create a slow, inefficient, hard to scale, trust-minimized blockchain/financial network, which they can't fully control, to compete with the current "666 system" that the own, and fully control?

To fool you into helping them erect a globalized 666 system. Of course they must get you to think that Bitcoin is harmless and/or beneficial in the fight against centralized corruption, in order to gain your fanatical, drooling, sheepeople-fanboy support.

What control have the global-elite gained over the world when the high transaction volume, efficient, permissioned, global medium-of-exchange is Facebook Libra, and backed by the slow, inefficient, low transaction volume, trustless/permissionless, reserve currency asset of Bitcoin.

Facebook Libra is a consortium blockchain to be run by large corporations which the global-elite control.

Besides who ever controls the global economy (eventually through Libra and banking for example), also controls Bitcoin, because due to the power-law distribution the top 1% will will control 33% of the BTC and also the global-elite control the all the $millionaires and $billionaires also with their control over governments, so in effect the global elite control 80+% of the wealth. When the miners take the SegWit donations probably at the halving this May 2020, then you will know that the global elite control Bitcoin and the cryptocosm. They will first crash the public confidence in Bitcoin, by destroying Core Bitcoin so that the public associates decentralized, trustless cryptocurrency with scams. This will open the door for Facebook’s 666 Libra, as the general public will want something that is more “trustworthy”. It’s all doublespeak because the global elite are playing 5D with the sheepeople’s pea-size brains.

The Libra+Bitcoin plan underway is how they consolidate their power over the world into a more firm grip with totalitarian control and tracking over everyone. So they can fully enslave all the sheepeople. Forced chemical lobotomies, forced chemical castration of males, etc.. to reduce the human population to their 500 million goal. This will come in stages over the next few decades.

NSA scans your license plate several times a day to know everywhere you go:

http://web.archive.org/web/20170904230136/https://medium.com/@amuse/did-you-know-that-the-nsa-uses-uber-drivers-and-soccer-moms-to-spy-on-you-d912fe74befd

You guys ostensibly get so enamored with yourselves when you think you’ve rebuked me and think you’ve stated something intelligent, but a person who is more intelligent than you can detect that you’re at the level of 2D checkers and the global elite are playing 5D chess. Do you really think after years of contemplating this that I would overlook such an obvious and simplistic argument as you have just made. If so, you’re not very astute at judging the intellect of others.

If I don’t reply to the next myopic thing you guys post, that doesn’t mean you’ve stated something cogent. It just means you guys are apparently not smart (and open-minded) enough to conceptualize the errors in your logic. And I’m not motivated to continue correcting you forever. If you happen to write something that I think actually pokes a hole in my conceptualization, I will surely acknowledge it if I read it. I’m fair that way.

This is my way of saying, don’t expect more replies. I’ve made my major points already.

Good luck to everyone. I hope some readers have benefited from my effort. Peace.

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