Topic: The Standard of a Meritorious post (Read 333 times)

I suggest you completely change the approach to this forum. I understand your desire to gather some merit and make progress here, but spamming with nonsense is a completely wrong way. You can get one or two merits, but this can only be accidental (just as you earned that one)
Put in a little effort, better write one meaningful post than ten nonsense like so far.

This is true for newbies who has been here before and coming back with another account. For someone getting to know about the merit system will not be so eager to earn it.

Strictly none of the above. You may see one with much merits and at that particular time has no single smerits to share. Excess merits as you said doesn't mean there is always smerits except for merit sources. And it seems that merit sources run out of smerits sometimes.
There are no laid down principles in writing merit worthy posts.
You get merit when you make someone know new things, you help solve people's problems or answer questions. So, see merit as a reward for doing good. From henceforth you can consider to be helping people.

I didnt even know how merit are been valued here until i got one myself ,as a newbie alot are to be learned and everyday seems to be discovering new development or getting experience and exploring ,also seeing how the experienced members are doing it gives you a wide direction on how to go about it.

Meriting a post is subject to the person meriting it. A post that affects me positively and discussed about issues that touched my area of concern may not be same with another person.

So I don't think anyone is actually withholding the generosity to merit.

No system is perfect, and it's no secret that merits are sold on the black market and shared between alt accounts - so there are definitely shortcuts, although (thankfully) there are few who know how to use them.

In addition, due to the lack of quality posters, many managers lowered the criteria for selecting participants just to fill all the spots in their campaigns. The rule of 5 merits that someone needs to earn in 120 days to qualify for a campaign is more than obvious a completely failed way of filtering the good from the bad members. If they applied the criteria that CM has for its campaign participants, would at least 5% of active forum users meet them (excluding those active participants)?

OP, you impersonate that you are more interested in making money on the forum than getting information, communication, and learning here. Everyone is used to newcomers creating new topics on seemingly thousands of times discussed issues. There is a very easy way to get merit, be original. Find out what the forum is missing, ask a question, or, on the contrary, tell me an answer that will be fascinating.
Many accuse old users of greed and inattention to the posts of newcomers, but believe me, as soon as an "emerald user" appears here, he will be noticeable.
So strive for originality, and avoid mediocrity.

@Mate2237, one thing is for sure, you won't get merit for posts and topics like this. From what I've seen, merits have been rewarded to posts in the past that are helpful or enjoyable, or to topics that spark or drive debate. Not necessarily any new or insightful info but at least nice and interesting content, and useful information to other people on the forum. With that said, I've never really bothered with the merit system as it doesn't really change anything, you can still consume and produce content on the forum just the same, so why bother?

There is no general standard for giving out merits and it's wholly at the discretion of other members. Contribute your reasonable thoughts and questions to the forum and someone may learn from you or be impressed for whatever reasons by your post and may get you a merit.

In essence, Acquire knowledge by asking relevant questions, sharing your thoughts and opinions and engage in intelligent educative discussions first and only then would your issues raised be over.
Merits are earned, earn them.

I don’t think it’s hard to guess why new members wants to get merits so much and progress on this forum.
This forum is really specific and provides a good opportunity to make money based on writing on the forum and in other ways.
There is nothing wrong with that but there are still certain criteria for participating in signature campaigns and merits and ranks are most important.
I think it is a very fair system because it separates the good and the bad members and everyone has an equal opportunity, based on their own effort and work. No shortcuts 

It has no standard, people get merits on posts who would other member consider lower quality.

Word of advise, don't post on expectation of getting merit, you are gonna be disappointed. Post about subjects you are really interested in, have fun here, it will be all right.

Well said!
I once created a thread that for days, no one made comment on it, same with merit, until I one day when I became lucky to have someone comment on it, and that's the only comment on that thread till now, except for my reply to the person's comment which made the comment 2, though I was later fortunate to have the post earn me merit.

At first I felt like I gave a good write up because I sincerely wrote from my experience, spent hours drafting my composition and all. But just like it's been said in this quote, there's no rules on what is meritorious, what is good to me might not be good to others, what I found fascinating might not be the same with another person, and the forum has been designed in a way that everyone reserve the right to give merit to whoever they want or whoever has impacted them.

It was kind of funny when I later found out that the volume, of my thread that  I mentioned above, was possibly the reason many people didn't comment on it.

Some times newbies expect too much for a trend they have made. But it depends on the reader to merit a post or not. And merit does come if the post is educative and someone could learn from. We should try our best to give a quality post and merit will definitely follow suit.

That's exactly what I thought. He has only been posting on the forum for a few days, but he is already complaining about the difficulty of earning merit. It is obvious he is forcing it. Not only that, but he is whining that he has put up effort, which can't really be seen from his few posts so far.

In my short time around here, I noticed this as well. When I read a really good post or answer, and check the user's merit counter, they almost always have a high merit count (which shows the merit system is working).

There isn't really much more to this; at least, that's how I distribute my sMerits: if I read an interesting idea or question, a good explanation or a helpful thread / guide / link collection, I give some. More or less based on just the (perceived) importance, helpfulness, quality and time / effort put into it.

If after I read a post, I gained nothing from it and it just wasted my time; providing zero new value to the forum or anyone really, I would almost like to give a negative merit. Since the advent of social media and 'broadcast yourself', some people got into the habit of posting their thoughts online without filtering, without structure or without second-guessing themselves if this post will actually be of any interest to someone or if they're just wasting people's time.

I’ve often echoed that earning a few merits, and scaling through the first few ranks, should not deem too difficult, but rather more so moving along the mid-to-high ranks, which require many more merits, and where people are likely to be more demanding for meriting posted content than on the lower ranks.

People here and there have posted their meriting criteria, such as on this recent thread. Reading through may provide further insights, although bear in mind that people have likely conceptual criteria, but things are nor written in stone.

The idea, in general terms, is to create content that is potentially interesting to the reader, be it in the shape of information, questions, answers, criticism, and whatnot, and wavering the flag of being meaningful, as opposed to meaningless or excessively redundant. The way you express yourself and the general layout are complements that help to convey the message more easily, and come in handy to bear in mind.

Being too eager may easily prove to be counterproductive, as it may lead one to be under the spotlight with a content that may not be that well thought through. Nobody should be expecting to get merited from the start, nor recurrently on most of the post he makes. I took my time to earn my first merit, well over a month, and if memory serves me well, it was actually for a little joke on my local board relative to price volatility. Not something to mimic, but goes to show that there is a variety of content that may be considered by others as interesting.

You are right, it's indeed a problem and very hard to obtain a Merit.

I have seen people sending a fraudulent Merit for low effort posts, like in local sections: German section here or here.
It contributes no value, still a Merit.

Merit should be reserved for well researched posts but still many well researched posts go unmerited and very many low quality posts go merited.
We need a Merit police to punish giving a Merit to low effort posts.  



You need to focus your post on what is useful as a content, what people might be interested in.
About education, about Bitcoin, about exposing scams and about improving Bitcointalk.

Yes, Merit is very scarce and hard to obtain but it's not impossible to obtain a Merit.

It is never a problem and why is because we have many newbies on the forum doing well and are seeing the result, if you doubt have a look at this The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days its updated till date and after you could have gone through, do well to check some user's profile and see what they are posting and how they are doing it that makes them have a deserving result, so don't say or assume it's a problem for newbies to have merit, everyone is lied with equal opportunity and those that maximize the effective use of it get a deserving benefit from it as well.


Furthermore to clear your doubts i think you need to go about the reading of the forum's rules and regulations, and some important key topics in this area of merit like i will love to drop you some here:
Merit FAQ for us read as well this also for more directions onnhow to go about [GUIDE for NEWBIE] Merit-help from other users, how to use them correctly? and i think by now you should have got it right and realize what you've been missing out.

gaining merit's is not a problems for newbies If  they are contributing well in this community but all they do is asking on how to get it or what ever involves in merit's for sure it's hard for them . Now adays some newbies  not came here for knowledge but the main purpose why they are here it because they want to get some extra income .
To get merits you should create a quality and helpful threads to convince other user to give you merit's  but before that newbies muy read first the rules and regulations to avoid. Such things.

Each of the posts or comments made in this forum it's for gaining ideas from one another. Newbies should have in mind that, not every post or comment deserves merit. Merits are only given out for free will based on your response or idea about the topic. 
Comment or ask questions in the post you have an interest in then the merit will locate you simultaneously.

Mate2237, you need to understand that the merits of this forum don't come automatically, but depend on other members of the forum.
Each of us is different and has different thoughts and criteria about which post deserve merit.
No one can demand merit but I suggest you to be humble, make an effort, share your knowledge and experience and based on that other members of the forum may reward your investment with merit.
Topics and posts like this will not help you.

After 10 posts, they are already wondering why they didn't get any merits, as if there is a rule or formula that would determine the number of posts in relation to the number of merits that someone should have

Every beginner should know that there is no general standard when it comes to merits, everyone decides at their own discretion - so we have posts that received a maximum of 50 merits from one member, and realistically if you look at their quality do not deserve even 1 merit. It is not an abuse as some think, but the free will of each member to do with his merits whatever he wants.

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@Mate2237, if you think you've been waiting a long time for your first merit, here's something to comfort you

Another "Legednary" newbie

There are two things like you could be a newbie on the forum but have good knowledge about bitcoin network and crypto market as a whole then getting merits won't be tough for you as you simply can post useful things helping others or create similar threads on different topics.

The second case is you are totally newbie and have no idea about the bitcoin or market and you register on the forum then hoping for immediate merits shower on your account is not justified.But you may see that if you start asking doubts leading to healthy discussion you could merits but only asking for merits,how to rank up and forum doesn't come under effective post frankly speaking.

If you are putting efforts it will be visible and you will be rewarded with merits from someone whosoever find it useful but anticipation of it always is not everyone's approach and some newbies earn it easily but you only have to work for it.

There are merit sources appointed by @theymos on the forum who can give out more smerits than they earn to help members grow on the forum but they all have their own way of distributing it like you could find :

1) @BlackHatCoiner's merit policy here

2)@Pharmacist has habit of helping low rank quality posters to reach their next rank

3) DdmrDdmr the merit machine on the forum is always the first one to be ahead in giving out merits to good post

They all have their own ways of giving out merits and they don't reserve their merits if you check out them.But still if you find your post are good and not getting merits you can report them here :

[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

We have seen lot of similar threads in B&H section and they all are eager to rank up because they are being introduced to the forum as income source on primary basis not the knowledge library they can take advantage of.So you are right in race to only focus on merits they have nothing with them.So best is to enhance your knowledge which will fulfill the later parts.

Not only this forum, but everywhere, there are rules that applies that can make your post be merit worthy, although, not stated rules but can be called standard of quality posts. So that is quality and authenticity of your posts, how helpful it is and how convincing it can be for people that did not even notice you before and starting to notice you. There are different boards on this forum, with all having different active posters, if you study that well, you will notice that the active posts that have quality posts are getting merited, they receive merit as often. You also can be like that, go for boards of interest, read what quality posts are posting than you posting and learn in the process.

I have looked at your posts because I have a merit that I could have given you if I could find a post that deserved it, but I have to tell you that creating a thread with a long post, even if you had a hard time writing it, is not enough to get merit. What you say has to make sense and be appealing to those who read it. Simply saying what you think doesn't guarantee you anything, no matter how long it takes you to write it.

Newcomers have many problems getting merit.Their first task is to know the rules of the forum.Then read more of the seniors' posts.Because when they are new to the forum they have no idea about cryptocurrency.But newcomers don't do any of these. Because of this they do not have much knowledge of cryptocurrency and they cannot post well so they do not get merit.If they do not follow the merit and post quality then they will get merit very soon.If they do not follow the merit and post quality then they will get merit very soon.

From what I've seen those users who focus on earning merit so much that it makes merit their whole reason why they are on this forum, will never earn merits. It's simply because their posts are always clearly made to receive merit and people don't like that.
Otherwise there is no "standard" and I have to say that it is very odd that you are asking about merits and hardship of earning them after only 10 days and 10 posts from your account creation!

There are no such standard of getting merited except quality of your post itself. I've remembered when I still a newbie, better to talk less and read more, you shouldn't write something low value post or spamming in this forum. Reading many topics in this forum will help you to understand more about the subject e.g. Bitcoin, forum, economy etc. If you think getting merit is really hard, then look how @fillippone can get 1000 merits around 8-9 months only. While become a legendary member you need minimum requirement of an activity around 2-3 years.

I just checked out your post history, and it seems you are talking out yourself. Out of 10 posts you have made so far, you have started 5 posts, which means your sole focus is on getting merit.

My advice is, don't force things, and you won't be frustrated. Focus on making good content, and especially try helping members via constructive discussion. Merits will come along your way with time

I doubt that newbies are experiencing struggles to earn merits- I think this problem only extends to users who are desperate in earning merits.

Like what most have previously mentioned, earning merits is a job itself; one must at least commit that you are determined into sharing posts that will benefit the public in general. In addition, you can also earn merits if you attempt to report plagiarized posts or scams in the announcement thread. Bottomline is, hard work and patience are needed if one truly wants to earn merits.

Again, focus on creating constructive posts and avoid posting on mega threads as exposure is relatively low compared to other threads.

Newbies are thinking too much about merits. It is just another another like/upvote points in the end. Sure it is needed to rank up, but why so desperate to rank up if you can still use the forum as it is? I am not a merit source, but when I give merits I never looked into ranks. I usually award merits to those posts that had me "moved".
Speaking of generosity, we have this thread if you have not read it yet.  [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits

The earlier you start working on your improvement the better for you, most newbies get carried away with the merit thing and do all manner of pointless and low-quality content all will the intention of generating merit from such content. From my personal experience, the forum and its members have high regard for quality and not quantity as long as you make yourself a valuable member of the forum you don't need to worry your head that much your work will speak for you and if any user finds them helpful there can award you merit. No merit source will withhold merit for any reason and will want to use up their merits but then their can just be awarding merits to junk posts or threads.

No its not. Well, at least not to those that either have something to say or have something to ask.


..which makes many of them pushing too hard in order to get merit so they pretend to know more than they actually do by plagiarizing or making merit fishing topics.


It is coming to genuine newbies that come here to learn some things about bitcoin.


No, and there are no rules when it comes to what is "meritorious content", everyone is free to decide that for themselves.

It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.

Let's discuss them