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Topic: The story behind my investment on letsdice.com - page 2. (Read 8874 times)

sr. member
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As soon as I saw the large colored font I knew it was this lying piece of shit talking shit.

He loves to jump to call out people with no evidenece of anything, just the words of one person.

Sad, sad little college age kid.  By the way, enjoy it up on Maryland on campus. Wink
1) You haven't even been on the forums long enough to know this story so you cannot judge whether it is true or not. Many agree with this statement and that Towtoad should have paid his 1300 BTC debt.
2) I am not "butthurt" over your comments with bitbook. What I am "butthurt" over is, when people who are obviously underage are asking questions about gambling. You should not be gambling in the first place.
3) I will PM the user who accused you of scamming. I will call greendot and find out who added the moneypak, they'll tell you if you're persistent enough.
4) Oh look you know I go to Maryland, would you happen to be Nickfor2, the degenerate who scams for hundred bucks? You sound very much like Xboxgames, who ran off with 5-15 BTC and wasn't too sharp on the specific types of betting himself. So yeah, everything about you screams a scammer, but sure I'll find out the info but if it turns out I'm right, I'll make sure to comment on every post you do til you leave and create a new account like you and all scammers eventually do.

Stay on topic or take it to PMs, I don't want to hear your raging.
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As soon as I saw the large colored font I knew it was this lying piece of shit talking shit.

He loves to jump to call out people with no evidenece of anything, just the words of one person.

Sad, sad little college age kid.  By the way, enjoy it up on Maryland on campus. Wink
1) You haven't even been on the forums long enough to know this story so you cannot judge whether it is true or not. Many agree with this statement and that Towtoad should have paid his 1300 BTC debt.
2) I am not "butthurt" over your comments with bitbook. What I am "butthurt" over is, when people who are obviously underage are asking questions about gambling. You should not be gambling in the first place.
3) I will PM the user who accused you of scamming. I will call greendot and find out who added the moneypak, they'll tell you if you're persistent enough.
4) Oh look you know I go to Maryland, would you happen to be Nickfor2, the degenerate who scams for hundred bucks? You sound very much like Xboxgames, who ran off with 5-15 BTC and wasn't too sharp on the specific types of betting himself. So yeah, everything about you screams a scammer, but sure I'll find out the info but if it turns out I'm right, I'll make sure to comment on every post you do til you leave and create a new account like you and all scammers eventually do.
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legendary
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This is all a little confusing for some. This is what is going on:

First, Nakowa, Cici, Towtoad, Celeste are the same person, and yes he won 4000 bitcoin over a week or two. (This is for certain)

Nakowa is not hated because he won 4000 btc, he gave a good show and it was fair play, no worries. Nakowa is hated because of the 1300 bitcoin incident.

1300 bitcoin incident: Nakowa, this time playing as celeste won some more bitcoin. He withdrew and because it was a large amount Dooglus moved the coins straight from the cold wallet to Nakowa. However Dooglus forgot to deduct the 1300 bitcoin in Nakowa's account and one of either two things happened. 1) he decided to gamble again, knowing they were not his coins. He lost them all to the investors 2) someone at the cafe, went on to his laptop when he was smoking and gambled them all away (in celeste style betting of course)

Instead of Dooglus rolling back the database straight away he decided to take the hit out of own coins and the community on just dust got very angry at Nakowa. Then Dooglus couldn't stand the fact that he had just lost $150,000 of his own money for no real reason he then reverted the site investment back and regained the lost coins. This was the right thing to do and everyone supported him (me too, Dooglus I really think you're a good guy :p )

The unfortunate thing for Nakowa is that during the time that Dooglus was covering the loss people hated on Nakowa and till this day this is what a lot of the tension is about.

Moving on.

Nakowa also believes in a gamblers fallacy and believes that there is a hole in the fundamentals of the dice game over on JD. (I think Nakowa wrongly thinks WLWLWLWLWLWL is the most common pattern (I have mapped all the patterns and there is no difference except loses happen slightly more at 49.5% 2x)

For example LL and WW and WL and LW are almost equally as common with the loses showing up more often. I modelled this over more rolls than JD has processed. So Nakowa is wrong in my opinion about the hole. I also remember he said that he would be up if he only deposited 400 btc to prove bankroll had nothing to do with it. He lost the entire amount and had to deposit again, the second time he deposited 600 bitcoin and ended up well over 1000. Luck.

To be honest if Nakowa really knows its a hole he would come back with his whole stack and win the entire bankroll. 50,000 bitcoin is up for grabs on JD and he wouldn't have to bother investing in other dice sites.

Also if the person creating letsdice is really not Nakowa, unless Nakowa knows him in real life I am certain he will steal Nakowas coins. Thats why he made contact.

But its equally likely that the letsdice owner is Nakowa himself.

I think that clears up the Nakowa legacy.

My opinion, It was thrilling watching him play JD, never seen anything like it. Please come back and bet soon!

:p
legendary
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what if towtoad's story is true?

They don't care. Smiley
newbie
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what if towtoad's story is true?
newbie
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Dooglus knows what happened. You gambled with coins that weren't yours. Your story is a lie and Dooglus knows you lied and clearly has said it in chat before. He did not ban you cause it would look bad for business if anyone was banned plus you could come back as a new account.

Face it, you're a degenerate gambler stuck in a gambler's fallacy world thinking you truly think you have found a sure 100% way of beating the house at "dice".



Let us remember you lost 2000 BTC in less then a minute and got lucky with a long winning streak, I'm almost sure if you hadn't won that streak you would've lost it all being the degen we know you are and one that will NEVER stop gambling. Your fix is too great now.

Also, you act like people care about you and think you're the coolest guy here. They don't. They don't about your investments or this post. You aren't god for winning $500,000. People win/lose that amount daily in Vegas. You're a lucky degenerate who will lose it all eventually.

[Reserved for any other rebutes to the sad claims by Towtoad]

As soon as I saw the large colored font I knew it was this lying piece of shit talking shit.

He loves to jump to call out people with no evidenece of anything, just the words of one person.

Sad, sad little college age kid.  By the way, enjoy it up on Maryland on campus. Wink
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The thing I don't seem to understand is why wouldn't you privately fund LetsDice as you were upset with your investments being diluted in Just-Dice. Instead you encourage others to invest by giving them incentives for doing so further diluting your investment. This smells way too much like a ponzi.

20% * 45% = 9%, and the shares will not be diluted, so, I think 9% is great for me.

I don't quite understand why you think "encouraging others to invest" is equivalent to "further diluting investment"?
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donator
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Poor impulse control.
I figure out there’s a hole in the game. I told what I thought to the site’s owner, Dooglus. Partly because of my poor English, I wasn’t capable of convincing him. (sorry, I don’t think I should write up what the hole really is here.) I was told that I was in a gambler’s fallacy. And for some days, I thought I was in a gambler’s fallacy too.

You told me two different ideas of what the 'hole' is.  First you claimed the hole was that the min and max bets were too far apart:



Towtoad, if dooglus has indeed just revealed what you consider to be his "hole", then you're in no position to be starting, running or otherwise being associated with a dice site. Your ideas show a complete lack of knowledge, and I don't want someone who knows less than me about probability running a site where probability determines investor profit.


legendary
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The thing I don't seem to understand is why wouldn't you privately fund LetsDice as you were upset with your investments being diluted in Just-Dice. Instead you encourage others to invest by giving them incentives for doing so further diluting your investment. This smells way too much like a ponzi.
In my opinion here is what is probably going to happen:
The owner creates the site, Towtoad invests, and then plays the game with the secret seeds told to him before he begins, and he slowly drains all of the other investors' monies. Then he claims he has an unbeatable strategy and tries making more funds off his illegitimate schemes.

The owner closes the site and splits the made off funds with Towtoad. And no one can fully prove that either party was involved in the bankroll being destroyed.
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Sorry I think I am lost 19,601 BTC wagered with a profit of 47BTC and you have found a "hole".  I understand you are ending up with profit but thats a lot of risk to get 47BTC......  Thats .2% with the average bet around 4.3BTC sorry .2% is not worth it to me....  Investing in the bank has a better payout.

He profited over 4K Bitcoins
newbie
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Sorry I think I am lost 19,601 BTC wagered with a profit of 47BTC and you have found a "hole".  I understand you are ending up with profit but thats a lot of risk to get 47BTC......  Thats .2% with the average bet around 4.3BTC sorry .2% is not worth it to me....  Investing in the bank has a better payout.
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The thing I don't seem to understand is why wouldn't you privately fund LetsDice as you were upset with your investments being diluted in Just-Dice. Instead you encourage others to invest by giving them incentives for doing so further diluting your investment. This smells way too much like a ponzi.
In my opinion here is what is probably going to happen:
The owner creates the site, Towtoad invests, and then plays the game with the secret seeds told to him before he begins, and he slowly drains all of the other investors' monies. Then he claims he has an unbeatable strategy and tries making more funds off his illegitimate schemes.

The owner closes the site and splits the made off funds with Towtoad. And no one can fully prove that either party was involved in the bankroll being destroyed.
full member
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The thing I don't seem to understand is why wouldn't you privately fund LetsDice as you were upset with your investments being diluted in Just-Dice. Instead you encourage others to invest by giving them incentives for doing so further diluting your investment. This smells way too much like a ponzi.
legendary
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If you have so much BTC in your pockets you should start giving away some fortune to us poor people that merely wins 0.01BTC in a week.

Get out begger. I wouldn't take 50 BTC if towtoad offered it, he/she owes 1300 BTC the way I see it. Let the degenerate keep his winnings. According to the story he told Dooglus he thinks that a couple losses in a row increases your odds of the next one being a winner. WRONG.

Every roll is independent of the previous ones. There is no difference. You can bet .01 100x and lose them all and its still a 49.5% chance of winning if you bet 50 BTC on the next roll as Towtoad tried to argue saying its different with Dooglus. What a joke.

Oh take it easy I was kidding.
From my side, I'm quite happy of the winnings I'm making myself on the casinos so I'm not caring how much he is winning nor I need his money.
I know how the dices works, and I know every roll is independent.
I had streaks of 12 winnings like I had streaks of 12 loosings. He had pure luck like a guy I met and saw playing an online poker tournament, and without even knowing the value of cards he won the first place.
Same stuff.
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Interesting chat.  Doog, I hope you don't expect me to pay you 111 BTC for revealing your "hole."  Grin

Oooh opus, can you please reveal his 'hole' to me??? You know I'm good for it!
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This guy found a flaw on live roulette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCdBsOIKYA
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