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legendary
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March 30, 2016, 08:17:42 PM
#74
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.

Oh, so your solution is "let's build a wall on a part of the borders"?
And what will you do when they'll all go through the sea route?
Huh

There has been no discussion of sea routes by any presidential candidate. 

Do you even know the geography?  The tides, the currents?

Mexico is not Cuba...

Doesn't matter man...

What I mean is that, you wanna build a wall? Very well. But they'll just start making a detour by sea that all! Where on Earth did you see that a fucking wall will be enough! If it was the case why did the Mexican immigration didn't stop, or at least decrease after the construction of the fortified border between Mexico and USA???





The WALL is still a good deal and will stop a lot of people



So please just explain to me why the current fortified border doesn't stop mexicans?
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
March 30, 2016, 07:58:44 PM
#73
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.

Oh, so your solution is "let's build a wall on a part of the borders"?
And what will you do when they'll all go through the sea route?
Huh

There has been no discussion of sea routes by any presidential candidate. 

Do you even know the geography?  The tides, the currents?

Mexico is not Cuba...

Doesn't matter man...

What I mean is that, you wanna build a wall? Very well. But they'll just start making a detour by sea that all! Where on Earth did you see that a fucking wall will be enough! If it was the case why did the Mexican immigration didn't stop, or at least decrease after the construction of the fortified border between Mexico and USA???





The WALL is still a good deal and will stop a lot of people

legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
March 30, 2016, 07:53:12 PM
#72
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.

Oh, so your solution is "let's build a wall on a part of the borders"?
And what will you do when they'll all go through the sea route?
Huh

There has been no discussion of sea routes by any presidential candidate. 

Do you even know the geography?  The tides, the currents?

Mexico is not Cuba...

Doesn't matter man...

What I mean is that, you wanna build a wall? Very well. But they'll just start making a detour by sea that all! Where on Earth did you see that a fucking wall will be enough! If it was the case why did the Mexican immigration didn't stop, or at least decrease after the construction of the fortified border between Mexico and USA???
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
March 30, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
#71
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.

Oh, so your solution is "let's build a wall on a part of the borders"?
And what will you do when they'll all go through the sea route?
Huh

There has been no discussion of sea routes by any presidential candidate. 

Do you even know the geography?  The tides, the currents?

Mexico is not Cuba...
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
March 30, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
#70
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.

Oh, so your solution is "let's build a wall on a part of the borders"?
And what will you do when they'll all go through the sea route?
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
March 30, 2016, 07:30:13 PM
#69
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...

Huh?  Any of them that want can try the sea route.  That has nothing to do with the wall.  The wall would stop the desert routes where a lot of the illegal immigrants DIE.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
March 30, 2016, 07:23:41 PM
#68

Thanks for this comment. I think there is nothing more to say. You belong to the kind of people believing it's right to kill others because they want to take parts of the tremendeous amount of goods and food you have in order to survive.
Funny though. Between a Syrian woman who ran a war country, traveled whole Europe bare foot, managed to reach your borders risking her life with a last both expansive and dangerous travel accross sea, and you who only born here, who deserves the most the nationality?
the definition of nationality is the status of belonging to a particular nation so obviously the syrian qualifies for nationality in syria and i qualify for nationality here. the clue is in the name. there is no country on earth in which you or i would qualify for citizenship simply on the basis that we have traveled a long way through difficult conditions to get there. the rule for every would-be immigrant in every non white country on earth is that you have to go through a legal process and prove you can support yourself financially before getting anywhere. and in almost every case you wont qualify for welfare until you've paid into their system for a few years. but when white people attempt to apply these very reasonable standards to third world muslims it all of a sudden becomes racist and cruel.

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And it seems like you compare our modern society to Middle Age. Wanna go back to this time? Did it even crossed your mind that the main difference between today and middle age is that we interfere in all their actions and use them as garbages? Hence that it's rather normal to see them turning at us once they got no other hope? What would be your solution? Close the borders and shoot at anyone?
yes we should shoot invaders instead of letting ourselves by overrun by them and allowing our civilisation to descend into third world anarchy. it works for israel as i have already shown you. following their no nonsense approach we'd shoot literally a handful and the rest get the message to stop coming. any that slip through are given a choice between detention and deportation. say what you want about the jews, they understand that third world savages bring the third world with them and they are having none of it in their country.

I'm just glad to know people without any notion of empathy exist in the world. It's the proof that our evolution is still incomplete as empathy was the base of our evolution process.

Seems to me that you have no notion of history, otherwise you would know that each and every empire collapsed after starting to close their borders and their culture calling themselves as "superioirs". Seems you also have absolutely have no notion of project management or you would understand that defending 14 000 km of borders is far more costly than integrating migrants. Seems you're a rather ignorant fool if you believe, even a moment, that Europe doesn't have the mean to welcome and integrate the correctly.

But as always: "A banker, a man and a migrant are in a room with 20 cookies. The banker takes 19 cookies to the man and says "you'd better borrow me 5 or 6 cookies in order to get the immigrant out of here. He's stealing your cookie.""
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
March 30, 2016, 07:17:29 PM
#67
A wall can`t stop immigrants.
It`s just a waste of money and resources.
Certainly it can.

It's wrong what you say.

But we all know it's not the ONLY tool in the shed.

Yeah sure. Because actually ready to risk there life in the sea, giving out everything they have for a better life, are of course going to be stopped by a fucking ridiculous wall...
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
March 30, 2016, 07:08:08 PM
#66
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?
The Nazis didn't build a wall, is what  i meant.
legendary
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Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
March 30, 2016, 07:01:43 PM
#65
As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?

On one side there is the actual price to build the wall, and on the other side there is the price the American taxpayers will have pay. This is a capitalist country, right? So you can't expect the builder not to make some profit. The laughable part is that some Trump supporters are expecting Mexico to pay the bill!
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
March 30, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
#64
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?
I was asking what nazi wall? I'm better sure Nazi Germany didn't build a wall.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
March 29, 2016, 08:35:59 PM
#63
Some sections of this existing wall are better than others.  Your picture proves nothing.

I was responding to a question of "what wall?"

It proves there is a wall, and if you read the Wikipedia quote, you would know that as of January 2010 (6 years ago), it is complete


What are the specs of Trump's wall?
Is it taller than 21 feet?
More than 6 feet deep in the ground?
Is it cemented in a 3-foot-wide trench with 5000 psi concrete?

How is Trump's wall better than the existing wall?
No it was not.  Go back and do some more study.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 722
March 29, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
#62
Some sections of this existing wall are better than others.  Your picture proves nothing.

I was responding to a question of "what wall?"

It proves there is a wall, and if you read the Wikipedia quote, you would know that as of January 2010 (6 years ago), it is complete


What are the specs of Trump's wall?
Is it taller than 21 feet?
More than 6 feet deep in the ground?
Is it cemented in a 3-foot-wide trench with 5000 psi concrete?

How is Trump's wall better than the existing wall?
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
March 29, 2016, 03:05:01 PM
#61
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier

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The Mexico–United States barrier is a series of walls and fences along the Mexico–United States border, strategically placed to inhibit the flow of illegal border crossings into the Southwestern United States. The walled sections are interspersed with a ‘virtual fence’ of sensors and cameras...

As of January 2010, the fence project has been completed from San Diego, California to Yuma, Arizona. From there it continues into Texas and consists of a fence that is 21 feet (6.4 m) tall and 6 feet (1.8 m) deep in the ground, cemented in a 3-foot (0.91 m)-wide trench with 5000 psi (UK/Ireland:345 bar; 352 kg/cm²) concrete...


Some sections of this existing wall are better than others.  Your picture proves nothing.

hero member
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Merit: 722
March 29, 2016, 01:42:49 PM
#60
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier

Quote
The Mexico–United States barrier is a series of walls and fences along the Mexico–United States border, strategically placed to inhibit the flow of illegal border crossings into the Southwestern United States. The walled sections are interspersed with a ‘virtual fence’ of sensors and cameras...

As of January 2010, the fence project has been completed from San Diego, California to Yuma, Arizona. From there it continues into Texas and consists of a fence that is 21 feet (6.4 m) tall and 6 feet (1.8 m) deep in the ground, cemented in a 3-foot (0.91 m)-wide trench with 5000 psi (UK/Ireland:345 bar; 352 kg/cm²) concrete...

legendary
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Merit: 1386
March 29, 2016, 01:39:31 PM
#59
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So, it's ok to use illegal Mexicans to build Trump's building and even Wall, but in the same time accuse immigrants for everything bad in American economy and threat them with legal action?
It's double standard, if you ask me.
Huh?  Accuse them for everything bad?  Who is doing that?

May I suggest, go read the actual Trump plan on his website?
legendary
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Merit: 1824
March 29, 2016, 01:02:18 PM
#58
As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?

Do you really seriously believe anything politicians say or promise?
For Trump this wall is just something to use in his political campaign, in order to show his voters that he cares and have concrete plan how to stop immigrants and prevent their illegal entries into the USA.
In fact, he don't care at all about immigrants and wall.
He is only concerned with how to win the elections and took the chair in the white house.
After that he will forget all his false promises and show his true face.

Who are the main workers in the Trump buildings?
Of course immigrants Smiley

LOL, pause and think a minute about what you are saying. 

Bolded section above - That's the very point, Trump is not a politician. 

Regarding "who are the main workers," so what? 

It'd be illegal Mexicans that BUILD the WALL.  Anything wrong with that?

I know it sounds crazy, but these are crazy times.



LOL
Trump is not politician but he is in political campaign for  Presidential election Smiley
So, he is political candidate or what?
So, it's ok to use illegal Mexicans to build Trump's building and even Wall, but in the same time accuse immigrants for everything bad in American economy and threat them with legal action?
It's double standard, if you ask me.
Trump is real politician, talking what people want to hear, not what he really thinks.
 
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
March 29, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
#57
The building of a wall would be a federal project so almost no chance of a illegal immigrant working on the wall project. Need the proper IDs.

I think that could be easily handled.  For example, work permits. 
newbie
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March 29, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
#56
Mexico will pay for the wall. Because they owe America over 50 billion in trade.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
March 29, 2016, 11:42:13 AM
#55
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?
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