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legendary
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June 19, 2023, 04:59:10 PM
#32
Investment is meant to be profited, and any investment without Profit driven becomes charitable business. Everyone can be rich only in trading and not investment. In trading one man loss is another man profit. But in investment if they are good in patient and have faith in the investment for a long time of period. Definitely they would make it. In investment everyone is equal and the only different is the amount of money in each person wallet. I am trying to think if there is any smartness in investment but you can see smartness in trading.
sr. member
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June 19, 2023, 04:54:32 PM
#31
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 


I mean investments are made to make profits, and it's also the same in the cryptocurrency space we all invest in Bitcoin because we wanted to earn a good amount of profit. There are some who just want to gamble their money but at the same time, they want to earn a profit as well in investing and holding their BItcoin. There are surely going to be winners and losers in the market, that is just how the market circulates. There are times that your gonna need to sell or buy, it doesnt really matter as long as you sell your Bitcoin at a loss you're going to be the loser in the market, that money that you lose will be the profit of other investors.

That is just the nature of cryptocurrency and the market, we can't change and doesnt have control over that, but what we can do about it is adapt to how the market works. Plan and strategies our entry and exit of our investments.
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June 19, 2023, 04:35:18 PM
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Recently, our main focus has been on capitalizing on the volatility of Bitcoin, rather than recognizing its original purpose. Admittedly, we have viewed Bitcoin primarily as an investment opportunity. Although it remains uncertain who will ultimately benefit from this approach, many individuals have indeed profited significantly from Bitcoin, contributing to its status as the most renowned cryptocurrency worldwide.
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June 19, 2023, 03:39:39 PM
#29
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim.

Why not attempt to be the wise one rather than the victim in order to amass all of the money? Not everyone is interested in crypto investments, but those who are can benefit greatly from it and make a lot of money if they understand its principle.

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In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

You don't need to be a genius to achieve this; simply buy some bitcoin and hold it for a while till it accumulates; after that, you'll have made a lot of money. Since not everyone has the foresight to invest, simply buy and hold.
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June 19, 2023, 01:15:48 PM
#28
Some people lose and some people win are terms in trading, gambling or ponzi scheme. If you're invest Bitcoin for long term period, there's no one will lose because when people are keep buying Bitcoin, the price would be increase. Lose happen in investment when you sell your coins cheaper than you buy, if you keep holding during the dump season, it's an unrealized lose, not an actual lose.
Long term Bitcoin investments have the potential to be profitable but it is crucial to understand that like any other financial environment the cryptocurrency market has its hazards. While it is possible to profit from price gains if demand for Bitcoin increases a number of factors including market mood legislative changes and technological breakthroughs can affect its value. It is possible to avoid selling Bitcoin at a loss by holding onto it during a bear market but this does not ensure that the investment will ultimately produce a profit. Although the concept of unrealized loss recognises that the loss is not realised until the asset is sold it does not rule out the potential that a real loss may actually occur. In order to increase the likelihood of success in any market situation prudent investment techniques include thorough research diversification and risk management.
hero member
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June 19, 2023, 12:06:40 PM
#27
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness.
Not only smartness, there are many other things that still need to be mentioned. Skills, knowledge, budget, opportunities and how you deal with your emotions and psychology also play an important role in success. You should also not forget about the security of your depository wallet during the investment plan, so everything is not as easy and simple as you think.

Investors want profit, that is their main goal and every one of them. I'm not sure how to draw conclusions and percentage them in the market, but I agree investors and traders have a high percentage of those who use bitcoin as a means of payment.
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June 19, 2023, 11:42:47 AM
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Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.

Indeed, it is an undeniable fact that investing in cryptocurrencies has been a significant motivation for many crypto holders. Profit potential is the driving force behind the participation of most cryptocurrency holders. .

In this space, Many Motivations arise where profit may be the main motivation for most cryptocurrency holders, However, there are various reasons to invest in cryptocurrencies. Some individuals may be attracted to the technological innovations and potential applications of blockchain technology, while others may be driven by a desire for financial independence, hedge against inflation, or support decentralized systems. Therefore, it is incorrect to assume that the only motivation of 80% of shareholders is profit.

Well, if you look, there are some investors in the crypto space prioritizing long-term growth and wider adoption of cryptocurrencies over short-term gains. meaning They believe in the transformative potential of cryptocurrencies and are committed to supporting the development of a decentralized financial system. For these people, profits can be seen as a by-product rather than their sole investment goal.

To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

It may appear. Maybe like what you are saying, Thet certain individuals or institutions with greater resources and influence have an advantage in the market, thereby challenging small investors to achieve significant returns and looks like a potential unfairness in the investment landscape. However, don't forget that in the crypto market, even the most savvy investors can incur losses due to unexpected market fluctuations or external events if they occur at any time.
legendary
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June 19, 2023, 08:27:48 AM
#25
Some people lose and some people win are terms in trading, gambling or ponzi scheme. If you're invest Bitcoin for long term period, there's no one will lose because when people are keep buying Bitcoin, the price would be increase. Lose happen in investment when you sell your coins cheaper than you buy, if you keep holding during the dump season, it's an unrealized lose, not an actual lose.
hero member
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June 19, 2023, 07:43:13 AM
#24
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 
Smartness does not always pay!

Some people get lucky with cryptocurrency investments, but they are not as smart as they should be since they just invested, and then the coin inflated, and they made a tremendous profit, just like $pepe investors did a few months ago.

However, any Bitcoin investor who is patient enough and keep holding their bitcoin will undoubtedly succeed, because holding your bitcoin patiently is smartness in my opinion.
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June 19, 2023, 07:08:43 AM
#23
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 
Just like the five fingers are not equal, not everyone would be equally smart. If one is selling some tokens at a covering high profit and he knew the market will take a downtrend or if he is buying by knowing that the market will take another uptrend, then in both scenarios, there is a buyer and seller, who will bear the loss and will be proved less smart, but we do not have any right to judge anyone.

And in the context of holding, no wonder, every holder makes a plan and set some profit and loss limits so that that holder could earn and lose only what he has expected and strategized but there are other holders whose expectations are higher than the previous one and he knew he would earn that much (more than the previous one).

Success in every business is not only linked to smartness because sometimes you do need luck in bad situations which your smartness had not helped you to predict earlier. Because mistakes make you more experienced and tough.
sr. member
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June 19, 2023, 06:01:03 AM
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I interpret his meaning to be that 80% are driven solely by profit, while the remaining 20%, apart from hoping for future appreciation, are people interested in the technology, its fundamentals, or the role it can play in society. It is difficult to establish percentages based on intuition alone, but we know that there are many people who invest in bitcoin simply for profit, although I would say that bitcoin users know more about the technology and fundamentals than those who invest in altcoins.
No... Still the percentage ratio is too wide. The poster should have presume 99%-1‰ because the aim of every holder is to maximize profits. What's the essence of holding or accumulating in the first place if not gain? The poster however got it wrong attributing Bitcoin to other ponzi scheme by linking its success to smartness.

The only smartness that can be associated with Bitcoin investment is knowing when to buy (i.e buying at the right time). The selling time can be determined by the holder whenever satisfied with the profit.
hero member
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June 19, 2023, 05:45:30 AM
#21
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

Just to draw the conclusion that Bitcoin investment is not for everyone. Because investing in Bitcoin is not just we buy this and then holding, we also have to be more strategic and learn how to analyze the market. As you have noticed, some got rich and some got also fail and this is because of different ways of investing I believe that those people who fail and lose their money in Bitcoin are those who never know what they are doing. A lot of people are having this situation and guess what, they always complain about the volatility of the market rather than adjust and adopt to the situation.
hero member
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June 19, 2023, 05:40:29 AM
#20
All bitcoin holders makes the same profit when bitcoin price increases. The difference is that their profits varies based on how much they invested into it. The secret of holders to make good profit is holding for long. You don't expect that if Mr A buys bitcoin at $10k and holds for 10yrs and Mr B buys bitcoin at the same price and holds for 5yrs that they will but have the same profit and if 40 persons buy bitcoin at $10k and hold for 10yrs,they will all make the same profit. It is traders that buys and sells everyday that can't make the same profit each and this OP's theory will work for.
legendary
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June 19, 2023, 05:29:09 AM
#19
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

You correctly noted that it is impossible to make everyone rich. This applies not only to the crypto market, but also to the traditional stock market. In both cases, the same financial laws work. If at the same time all investors want to sell their assets, be it cryptocurrencies or classic stocks, then there will not be enough money for everyone. That's the way these markets work, and the situation you describe is called a zero-sum game (if one makes a profit, then someone else loses a profit). This is very pronounced in trading.

Success doesn't have to be about smartness. Luck and chance play an important role, especially in the trading mentioned above.
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June 19, 2023, 05:20:04 AM
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Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

The market is big enough for every investor to earn profit, bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme whereby one person we make profit and the other person will lose. In Bitcoin as far as one is able to hodl, when the market rises it will benefit those who were able to hodl their bitcoin. You need to know that Bitcoin can give profit to everyone if the right is done to earn profit.  Bitcoin investment has nothing to do with smartness, What matters in Bitcoin is to Just have understanding about Bitcoin and it has nothing to do with smartness instead of smartness I think one should have patience enough to be successful in investing bitcoin.

Success in investing bitcoin is very straight forward and you don't need much strategies to for a successful investment.  Hodling is all you need to do to get success in investing bitcoin.

Bitcoin don't also make people to rich, it only helps you by strengthen you financially from what you already have, do not have the mindset that bitcoin can  make people rich from having nothing to become rich overnight.
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June 19, 2023, 03:23:42 AM
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Every Bitcoin investors will become a winner, not at the same time, but in a different time, you said profit driven? You are not wrong, but ignorance can't be beaten in this space I believe, there are loads of people that don't understand a time about crypto investment, and we can't blame them, they will understand in time, so I think its fine to say that, such people will become a winner someday when they realize how the whole system works.

Bitcoin is here to stay, it's not going anywhere, so the opportunity is available anytime any day, unlike altcoins, because I believe that your description suits altcoins well than Bitcoin, altcoins vanished with time, they do well once and after that it's over, they mostly never go back to their all-time high again.

This is the real meaning of using some people to make money because they got dumped on by the early investors, Bitcoin case is different.
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June 18, 2023, 10:50:06 PM
#16
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.
So the remaining 20% dont want to earn profits just wanted to accumulate bitcoin? Im not sure this should be a perfect 100% aside from enjoying the perks of bitcoin majority of the people who owns bitcoin are obviously in for the profits when bitcoin price appreciated. Its a hypocrite to say that they arent considering bitcoin price. Maybe during it wasnt valuable but the case now is different especially 1bitcoin isnt just cents anymore.

I interpret his meaning to be that 80% are driven solely by profit, while the remaining 20%, apart from hoping for future appreciation, are people interested in the technology, its fundamentals, or the role it can play in society. It is difficult to establish percentages based on intuition alone, but we know that there are many people who invest in bitcoin simply for profit, although I would say that bitcoin users know more about the technology and fundamentals than those who invest in altcoins.
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June 18, 2023, 10:15:38 PM
#15
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

Profits from investing have indeed encouraged more people to invest in cryptocurrencies in their own ways and strategies, but this does not always have to be related to intelligence because that alone will not be enough to get profits for an investor. There are several other things that also greatly support an investor in making a profit, namely luck in choosing investment assets at certain moments so that someone can benefit even though their intelligence is still below average.

This means that someone simply researches which cryptocurrency is most liked by many people and then buys it for investment. Even though he is not that smart compared to other people, but if he is lucky enough with the cryptocurrency he bought for investment purposes, then he can also get profit. So without having to be too smart, someone can still benefit through their investment, although an investor doesn't have to be too stupid either in choosing cryptocurrency for investment.
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June 18, 2023, 09:56:43 PM
#14
Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.
So the remaining 20% dont want to earn profits just wanted to accumulate bitcoin? Im not sure this should be a perfect 100% aside from enjoying the perks of bitcoin majority of the people who owns bitcoin are obviously in for the profits when bitcoin price appreciated. Its a hypocrite to say that they arent considering bitcoin price. Maybe during it wasnt valuable but the case now is different especially 1bitcoin isnt just cents anymore.
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June 18, 2023, 08:53:21 PM
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We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.
You're a bit shy, eh?
Why not make it 100% or just 99%, and why 80%? Any website where you got this data? Or it's just you nitpicking a specific number.
To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim.
Well, this is true.

Another one's profit is another one's loss. This always happens especially in trading. Who said that every holder can't be rich at the same time? It has 2 factors IMO. The time when you bought Bitcoin, and the amount of time you held it. If you bought Bitcoin earlier than most investors, you will get more profit thus, it might make you rich. On the other hand, those who bought a bit late can get lesser profits than those who bough earlier. TBH, the word "rich" has a very broad definition when it comes to investing, but one thing's for sure thought. You bought it earlier, you will gain more profits (base on history).
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