Topic: The Turkish Complex of Some Eastern European Forum Members (Read 2216 times)

My thoughts are as follows:

-Every person can love their race and nation, this is natural.
-Everybody can say "My nation is good", but if it says "only my nation is good and superior to everyone" there will be a conflict.
-We are all human and equal, we may have mistakes in the past or now. The important thing is not to repeat this ...
-It is no use for anyone to make this a blood feud today because our ancestors fought in the past.
-If everyone in the forum respects each other. As a Turk, I do not hostility to any nation. I am hostile to "behaviors", regardless of who they are.
--I am not talking about religion because everybody is free to believe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi0RpNSELas  

Just to put that right briefly ...

I can be wrong but as far as I know there have never been (important) parts of Austria under Turkish rule. The Ottoman Empire tried twice to besiege the city of Vienna, but failed each time devastatingly. The first siege took place in 1529, the second in 1683, both times the Ottoman Empire failed to gain a foothold in Austria.

But it is actually true that Turkish civilization had an impact in Austria. For example, the Austrians got to know coffee through the sieges (and love it, Austria is well known for its coffee house culture), the so-called "Butterkipferl" also dates from this time and is a pastry that ridicules the Turkish crescent.

I can’t believe that Blacknavy is not totally wrong here.  For one thing, he revealed the self-serving myopia of Europeans and Americans on a topic dear to my heart:  The freedom of speech.


You picked the wrong example.  Conspiracy theories about 9/11 are not the canary in your free-speech coal mine.

You can test your own freedom by stating this publicly, under your real name:


Or better, by outright supporting Hitler.

Have fun with that.  Even in America, where freedom of speech is theoretically guaranteed by the First Amendment, in practice you would be targeted by pseudo-legal, extra-legal, and/or outright illegal means...


...which may include not only accusations of mental illness, but Soviet-style involuntary use of the psychiatric system to de facto imprison you without criminal charges—plus drug you until you really do become crazy.  The pathologization of ideas is pure poison to the freedom of speech.

More likely, however, you will just become permanently unemployed blacklisted as unemployable regardless of work performance or behaviour at work—plus subject to Antifa types of personal violence while the police look the other way, etc., etc.

The freedom of speech requires that ideas be met with ideas.  If there is any idea that is de facto forbidden to express, then it is by definition a thoughtcrime.  Whereas if an idea is so wrong that it should be unthinkable, then surely it can be replied to with better ideas—without any type of violent coercion against those who express it.  That is simple logic, and the underpinning of a profound principle.

The alternative is that this free-speech thing doesn’t actually work, because the vast majority of people are manifestly incapable of thinking for themselves; thus, they need officially approved ideas protected by an authoritarian government against the deceitful propaganda of mass-manipulators.  And that would be an argument for... Hitler.  Actually, it is more or less a big part of what he said on the topic.


A meritorious observation overall—and one that few will even think, much less say.

I disagree insofar as I don’t think that Turkey is anything even remotely approximating a free country; Europe is overall better in that regard.  But Europe is not “free”, either—not even nearly; and in practice, America is overall worse.  America is a dystopia of near-total mass thought control, which preaches about its domestic “freedoms” with the same hypocrisy as with which it preaches the “liberation” of foreign countries whose people did ask for the American world-police to bomb them into “freedom”.  Frankly, I would prefer to deal with honest tyrants who wave their iron fists upfront, than to deal with the American government.

The reality:  You are free to do what we tell you.  You are free to think what we tell you.  You are free to choose between Coke and Pepsi.  YOU ARE FREE TO OBEY.

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Yesterday, I half-drafted a reply on this thread re various historical issues.  I withheld it in the belief that even the slightest attempt to untangle this mess was not worth bumping one of the stupidest of stupid threads that this forum has seen in a long time.  Well, that is always a mistake.

I just had to hit the free-speech issue here, in the hope of making people in Europe and America stop patting themselves on the back, and think about how free they really aren’t.  If time permits (certainly not now), then I may take a stab at some of the other mess here.  Though I doubt it would make any difference.

Warning: the following excerpt contains black propaganda against Ataturk, considered by most independent and neutral sources to be the greatest leader of 20th century in the world, by the deluded brainwashed creature called ~JollyGood who I can only assume is a medieval minded terrorist in favor of the most radical elements of political Islam;

I quote part of jollyclown's macabre lies below so that everyone can rightfully put this manipulated charlatan to their ~~~ list, the likes of him only belong in medieval societies like Saudi Arabia and should be promptly expelled from all civilized organizations including this forum.

Kindergarten story.


I don't like Adolf Hitler, but the ideology of national socialism. It's not about this topic.

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I don't believe that I could express myself fully and I would like to discuss it with you in more detail, but I had to have a more fluent English to be able to provide you accurate informations. I just wanted to explain objectively that Armenian genocide has never happened. In World War I, we were fighting not only the Europeans but also the minorities within us and some Islamic religious groups. At that time, we did not even have a knife to fight Armenians. Many Turks were massacred by Armenians. However, I do not blame them as they blame us, it was just a war.. The Turkish Republic which established by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk isn't different any European country but there are many people who are biased to Turkish Republic because of the hatred to Erdogan. Due to this prejudice, people believe that the history that is not correct is correct. I'm out of this topic atm. As I mentioned above, you can believe the media that tell a kindergarten story. It doesn't change the truth.

If there was no Islam there would not be an Ottomon Empire. Many of the unelected leaders of that empire and many of the citizens that lived with it poisoned the empire thus were traitors to it.

The fact the Turkic and those from Kazakhstan and surrounding nations eventually became civilised and populated the modern day Turkish lands was a direct result of Islam taming those people and giving them a purpose and direction in life.


The so-called Sultans were Turks and whether they married foreign women who did or did not become Muslims had nothing to do with any imaginary propoganda. Once again, the Ottoman Empire existed because they were followers of Islam. If the element of Islam was removed from them they had no empire and no reason to have one. Islam was their basis and driving force. All throughout their empire they had to deal with deluded individuals such as yourself who were trying always bowing their heads and saying "yes sir" and "Selam Aleyküm" when they needed to yet they tried their best to destroy the empire from within.

All empires throughout history have had to put up with deluded citizens such as you that jump on the governmental bandwagon when they reap the economic benefits and then curses the same hands that once fed them because things are not going the way they hoped.


Most across the wider MENA region (Muslim and Christian Arabs alike) see Kamal Pasha as a terrorist who was instrumental in destroying the Islamic Empire and see the name Atatürk being attributed to him as being an insult to those that lost their lives defending their religion and their land from the allied forces during world war one. Many see Kamal Pasha as a coward who resigned from his post in the army of the Ottoman Empire of which he was as citizen and then after that betrayal there was a warrant for his address and he was sentenced to death in absentia because he was a traitor.

Later on when he managed to pass through so-called modernisation laws by removing the Turkish uthmani text from every day life and replaced it with Latin alphabet, he was despised even more from within and outside the new found state called Turkey. He then went all out to make the new state a secular one which was another reason people never forgave the man saw as the traitor terrorist Kamal Pasha.

Think about it, a non-Muslim heavy alcohol drinker traitor terrorist who managed to weasel his way to the top of a political system of a majority Muslim populated country then tried to eliminate religion from the hearts of its citizens. What a way to die, in disgrace and with cirrhosis of the liver because of heavy drinking which would not have happened had he been practising the very religion he tried to kill. Quite understandable why most Turkish people despise Kamal Pasha.

The biggest slap on the face for Kamal Pasha (and he must be turning in his grave for it) is that Recep Tayyip Erdoğan the present President of Turkey and slowly turning back all of the anti-Islamic rules and regulations that were set in place to destroy Islam.

Others call him Atatürk (father of the Turkish nation) as some form of ultimate respect and see Kamal Pasha as a hero who was one of the authors of the Amasya Circular which led to the Sivas Congress, which in-turn had a multi-pronged objective including the aims of creating an independent state which would not form part of the Ottoman Empire and which would rid it of the British, French, Italian, Greek and other armies that occupied parts of the Ottoman Empire including Constantinople (called Istanbul from 1923).

Many credit him for helping create the state of Turkey as a secular state and want the separation of religion from the state as they see it as a modern thing. They see him as a hero.


You are in serious need of both medical and psychological help.

Maybe with the effects coronavirus lock down might be having on your health the situation is getting more and more dire for you. Please use the emergency services available to you in your country and seek appropriate medical health otherwise you may one day be a lost cause they will give up on you and will never recover from your mental illness.


English?


Whether Europeans faked historical facts or not, what cannot be missed here is the fact your love and adoration for Adolf Hitler is apparent.




It is these types of posts that show how deranged and imbalanced a user can be. I had to un-INGORE him to read this tripe and then re-add him back on to my IGNORE list.

I don't have to explain what Hitler did, I don't care.

Two evils? Armenian genocide never happened.

But they accused lauda of death threat and something about forum members being racists, so it must be for reputation.
That must explain genocide Hitler did.
Two evils doesn't make one evil less bad.

I'm not one of the Erdogan's supporters and today's Turkish leaders were elected by the community because of fake economic crysis and media propaganda. Most of people are biased to Turkish Republic because of hatred of Islam and Erdogan but, it doesn't change the fact that Fethullah Gülen is a terrorist. They had been stealing questions of exams included education, civil servant and military since 1980. Thus, they were trying to create their paralel states. Unfortunately, there are more than 50,000 people who need to be arrested.

Try to criticize your leader, see what happens. There are countless reports of among others political opponents, dissidents, journalists and soldiers who ended up on jail, many of them sentenced for life.
From the above link, there were 50,000 arrests of alleged supporters of the (alleged) coup alone!

You can test your freedom by claiming publicly that the 2016 coup was a false flag operation in Turkey. See how long you last.
Now compare that to claiming 9/11 was an inside job in the US. Those people don't lose their freedom.

Before the Ottoman Empire collapsed, it was poisoned by Islam. The Turks were used as soldiers or workers and we were humiliated by some sultans because many Ottoman sultans lost their Turkishness after Islamic propaganda and marrying with foreigner women. Those who ruled the Ottoman Empire and the rich persons were not Turks. Just like other minorities, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk made the Turks revolt against the Ottoman Empire. In this way, we were able to establish our own country. Even though the Germans do not want to accept, they owe all of the prosperity they have today to Hitler. If we really did genocide, we would still not be dealing with defamation campaigns of Kurds, Armenians and other minorities which want to get money or create a new state. We didn't commit genocide like Hitler (By the way, I don't think Hitler is a bad commander. I'm sure he was the one who loved Germany the most). Europeans legitimize the genocides they made in the past by making up fake history. Apart from that, European and American people think that they live in a country more free than the Turkish Republic. None of you are satisfied with the economic situation and minority policy you are in. You just think you're free and believe it. Continue to believe that you are free and the media tells you the truth.

I have a feeling that history books in classrooms across Europe have wildly different interpretations of the same events. One country's hero is another country's villain.

This got nothing to do with forum reputation.

The OP is another attention seeking member of the Turkish local language board. The fact he/they keep dragging the fact they are Turkish in to their posts mean they are trying to make that the key basis of conversation.

It is really sad that a handful of these users from the Turkish language board that frequent the global board have deliberately created a climate of conflict just because their key protagonists failed in their long term goal of getting on to the most lucrative of signature campaigns.

Hmmm...I'm waiting for 7/3 of Europe to apologize.

If we go back to the 10th century or 5th there is no person alive in Europe whose ancestors haven't killed, robbed, or at least punch once in a face somebody's else ancestors.  Who cares anymore about Vlad Tepes or Elizabeth Báthory (seriously OP, google it) who cares about 10 centuries of bloody history.

This is not about the resentment of Czechs, Slovaks or Poles (btw, OP, when did the ottoman empire conquer Prague, I have a lapsus), it's not about countries or ethnic groups, this is about money, is about 0.0000001% of that country population trying to get a bigger piece of the pie and trying to start a keyboard war here.
"Love of bitcointalk" how wolwoo said..nope, nothing like that. It's a love for money, nothing heroic, nothing patriotic, nothing that is going to be in the history books.( although it is going to end in loycev's archive).

Op, if you would really care about your ancestors, you wouldn't bring them up here...


That's the essence of all those threads, somebody wanting money because of this race or ethnic group.
Isn't this a bit.....racist?

Where is that death threat? This?
It is a bloody joke. You are overreacting over this.

Would you like to speak with the manager Karen ?

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The only reason that you're feeling persecuted on this forum , is because somehow because of ancient history some of you turkish members here feel entitled that you should wear a crown , and us the bitcointalk peasants should bow down to your supremacy .    I get it that nobody here actually giving a fuck about eachother's nationallity put you Karens on full beast rage mode , but you should tone down a bit.


On the other side , if you make me a kebab ( hold the onions) I might reconsider your claims and try to idolize you great descendants of the Ottoman Empire .

It s actually correct that Turks migrated all over the world during their conquests and established their homeland in arguably the most genetically mixed part of the world in Anatolia, the melting pot of countless civilizations.

So it is very possible for any given modern Turk to carry European, Middle Eastern and Asiatic genes, it is probably one of the most genetically diverse nations on Earth.

I ve made this thread deliberately provocative in response to some really childish racist remarks and death threats raised against my own countrymen in previous 2 threads started by wolwoo yesterday, and wanted to highlight that contrary to what some veteran members think, there is a very palpable and easily verifiable ethnically charged hate against some Turkish members on this forum, and it is putting them at an unfair financial disadvantage during most forum based applications like bounty campaigns...

Then you should delete a half of your OP

And then we kicked your butt out of Europe  

I have read one study and according to https://croexpress.eu/hr-iseljenistvo/6666/nevjerojatna-spoznaja-10-milijuna-turaka-ima-hrvatske-korijene/ 10 million Turks might have Croatian roots. It didn't really surprised me to read this, during long war Ottoman Empire kidnapped many young boys and children and took them away from their homes to serve them.

Maybe OP has Croatian roots, he has found that out and now he is pissed? 

When your "national hero" the impaler and torturer of some 20,000+ people including his own countrymen finally got the attention of the Turks and was easily ambushed and beheaded in a forest in his own country, and his head taken to be presented to the Sultan (kudos goes to valiant Turkish vanguard  Gazi Mihaloglu here for his relentless pursuit of the evil villain long after the Ottoman campaign: http://www.lacivertdergi.com/gundem/makaleler/2017/09/15/osmanlinin-vampir-prensi-vlad-tepes)

rumor is that Mehmed the Conqueror did not even recognize him and told his men to not bother him with such trifles...

Your greatest "romanian hero" is mentioned as a footnote in history owing to his excessively vile nature, and only serves as one of the remote inspirations in the novel Dracula, contributing to the explosion of vampiric literature centuries later, so a psychotic bandit managed to become famous through fantasy literature, I admit that is some accomplishment.  

I m sure intelligent rational Romanians today dont consider him a hero by any stretch of the imagination.


Local rule for this thread: Any further attempts at rewriting a fake history with political motives will be promptly deleted...

I'm still waiting for the Spanish to apologize, and the Romans, those Italians have been at us several times. And Vikings were baddies too!

OP is delusional (as his friend wolwoo, but I'll come back later to wolwoo). The Turkish rule was applied indeed over many countries but from here to say that the respective nations are genetically more Turkish - that's ridiculous lol. Just a small example about history and Romania, to not talk here the entire Europe history (which is clear that OP has no vague idea about it). Romania is a Latin country, maybe most close to the ancient Latins compared to other Latin countries. In ancient times, on these lands was a country named Dacia and its citizens were a subdivision (Gets or Dacians) of the Thracians. Dacia was conquered around the year 100 by the Roman Empire and lived hudreds of years under Roman occupation. The Romans settled here and built families with locals and from here comes the reason for being such close to the ancient Latins. Romanian is very similar with Italian, for example; much similar than French vs Italian or Portuguese vs Italian. However, coming back to the subject. Coming closer to year ~1300-1600, many years after Dacia ceased to exist as a country, on these lands appeared three Romanian provinces: Moldavia, Transylvania and Romania (they united much later into a single country, known now as Romania). Since the apparition of the Otoman Empire, the Turks tried to conquer as many lands as possible, including Romania, for taking taxes. But unlike the Romans, which actually settled here and from their mix with the Dacians the Romanians appeared, the Turks were only interested in taxes and to have nations to bow down in front of them.

Thus, there is no genetic interference between Romanians and Turks (excepting, of course, particular situations where a Romanian marries a Turk or vice-versa). So from start, OP is delusional or knows no history. Even of his own nation lol.


Now the second paragraph, the second delusion of OP, still related to history (in part): that minor sadistic villain was actually the Voivode (the prince) of Romania in those times. So he was not a minor figure. About "impaling civilians": he did not impale civilians, but the Turks which were trying to occupy his country. He was defending the civilians, to be more precise. From what you say, the truth is in the exact opposite side (I'll detail more below). Furthermore: "a national hero" - of course, he was a national hero as he defended us in front of the conquering attempts of a foreign nation. By the way: he fought also against corruption, impaling also the local Romanian Boyars (to translate for you - they were sort of local gang leaders, interested also to enslave civilians (peasants) and to collect taxes from them). And about calling me loser: lol.


As I said above, the truth is in the exact opposite direction from what OP states. Let's see again what Lauda said:


So Lauda actually stated something totally opposite than killing the Turks baboons en masse. She said this should not be done, as it would be a waste for that gas. Lol. So OP either doesn't know English or he speaks the English of a baboon (as Lauda wisely flagged) or he intentionally states the total opposite.


Loooooooooooool. Man I laughed so hard. I truly believe that an extreme butt-hurt was implied during the impaling process. Of course, Vlad Tepes (that was indeed his other nickname as Tepes is derived from Teapa, which, in Romanian means wooden spear - you know, that instrument used in the impaling procedure lol) was not actually interested in provoking the butt hurt, rather being interested in putting the Turks to respect for trying to conquer this small country. But one led to the other and that was it lol.


I literally choked on my coffee laughing when I saw this.[/quote]

+1


Now finally getting also to wolwoo, which is another delusional person. As far as I saw, periodically (once at 1-2 months) he starts a fight / rant about an absurd allegation, such as: the war with the Dalton Gang, the war with the entire forum, the request to be banned himself, the war against the "racism" practiced by DarkStar_ for not accepting Turks in Chip Mixer Campaign. Now that a Turk was accepted, but excluded afterwards, the most recent war: why was his fellow national excluded, plus the examples given by nullius and so on. Of course, all being absurd accusations. What is more interesting though (aspect which fully convinced me that he is delusional) is that after he starts the fight, he keeps posting and posting and posting. And after some time, out of nowhere he suddenly ends the entire topic with love-related words. For example:

He ended to penultimate war with:
"i love forum
I love people
goodbye"

Or: he ended his last war with:
"ok

I don't have any hostility to anyone anyway"

And then he locked the topic lol.

So I think that if someone is angry, be stays angry. But he switches fron anger immediately to love and to peaceful attitudes, which really makes me wonder if he is mentally sane.


I hope the history lesson I just gave him will help a bit. Not sure though.


Even more true, as he obviously doesn't know history.

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I remember I recently saw a topic here named The war with Russia: can we end it? Do we want to?. I think OP's actions or wolwoo's as well might leads to a similar topic sooner or later, unfortunately, as they attack so many people here.

The other threads made by wolwoo were strictly about "reputation and forum recognition", where were you when a few of your fellow balkan friends were expressing desire to gas and impale Turks with saliva coming out of their psychotic mouths ?..

There is no Armenian genocide, do not buy into orientalist propaganda. Armenians took army uniforms given them by the French and plundered, killed and terrorized their fellow citizens in a time when the empire was at its weakest, thus they had to be deported, it might be the biggest act of treason ever committed by a group of people, thus it is historically significant but for diametrically opposite reasons of what the mainstream propaganda is nowadays claiming...

It would be a rare bright day for the waning Bitcointalk if some truly enlightened people come here to also comment about how some deranged members expressing desire to impale and gas people are out of line, but observing the nepotist gangs that have taken over the forum for years now, I wont be holding my breath  

I was being sarcastic, using the response that they use when called out on their evil. Guess you didn't catch on.

Nope, but I am guessing this is also racist. I'll be waiting.

No, it's just an example of what the OP is trying to push forward that all the Balkans should still be under the Ottomans rule. I just gave him just the same bad example of what he is trying to do.
This is just the worst way to make a complaint about their recognition in the forum.

The thread is about the forum recognition, and not for historical/political discussions.

Have you heard them apologize for all they did to us (Greek ppl), Greek Genocide, what they are doing to this day each and every day?

This is racist.

I'm a Bulgarian, a DT1 member , CM participant and I should be a perfect example of this anti-Turk agenda you are pushing forward.
Well, surprisingly I don't really care which nationality any of the forum members are, if you cross the line you get what you deserve, if you are good member you get my support. I have some turkish friends as well.

Trying to play the history card won't benefit you especially in the forum .
Germans apologized for the Nazi genocide, but never heard of a Turk to apologize for Armenian Genocide.

Incorrect. Tagged for defamation.

Thank the almighty that you were repelled, or we would still be living like mongrels.

He/they are overestimating their own value, gas is expensive.

Dizzying levels of doublethink.  This one is competing with the Americans for hypocrisy:


A considerable exaggeration; but I am not in the mood to quibble over such details.


“DragonDance” thus builds building his accusation of “racially motivated libel” (quoted below) by expressing Turkish supremacism:  Surely, the peoples of all the listed nationalities belong under Turkish rule!

Alas, the world went awry because the Sultans sabotaged their own dynasty.  Those inferior peoples of Europe got away from their true masters, only due to their masters’ own mistakes.  Of course, it had nothing to do with the Turks repeatedly being defeated on the battlefield—and as for internal Turkish politics, nothing whatsoever had to do with the Sultan’s centuries-long dependence for his most élite guard on Janissaries of (unwilling, kidnapped) European origin and extraction.

Anyway, many decades ago (alas), I had thought we had resolved that problem when, in the early Twentieth Century, the Ottoman Turks were allies of some European nations.  And in WWI, at some point, British and Turkish soldiers had their own sort of non-religion-related version version of the Christmas Truce between Germans and British.

Later, the Turks built at ANZAC Cove a monument praising the tragic heroism of the British and ANZAC soldiers whom they had slain at the Battle of Gallipoli.  The inscription, a quote of Atatürk, even poetically reassured the mothers of the their fallen enemies:


“DragonDance” then proceeds to, in essence, racially insult a large subset of Europeans on the basis that they are allegedly too Turkish.^{[citation needed]}  Certainly, that makes them oh so genetically inferior to... Turks, I suppose?  For my part, I struggle to fathom the recursive doublethink that must have been required to say this.

Or is that a [citation needed] boast that, by implication, deliberately inflates the numbers of European women raped by Turks?  Pick your poison.


While “DragonDance’s” extreme butt-hurt is mildly amusing, it is leading to very unfair consequences in reputational destruction campaigns against decent people.


It is so very fun to see this in a post made with “ulterior motives based on fake nationalistic sentiment”.

DragonDance, you and your cronies are money-grubbing low-life scum, transparently wreathing your obsession with a high-paying signature campaign in the false aura of national pride.  Any Turk who is genuinely proud of his nation would not drag its name down to an abyss of lies motivated by raw greed and a beggar’s sense of self-entitlement.


The mere mention of Vlad Tepes got him #triggered, I see.  What was that about “extreme butt-hurt”?  Was that a subconscious reference to the direction in which Vlad’s stakes impaled the body?  Vlad will teach you the meaning of “extreme butt-hurt”.


I literally choked on my coffee laughing when I saw this.

What do I need to do to get targeted here?

Oh, and may I please be hit with a Godwin-in-one argument, too?


LOL.  That post made wolwoo a candidate for the Godwin Trophy of the year—and I say that as someone who just last month got into a flamewar with someone who drew an analogy between “Hitler, born in Austria, infected almost the whole of Europe”, and “Tyrol, infecting half of Europe with SARS-CoV-2”, quote-unquote, with blame in both cases on the mentality of Germans and Austrians.

Actually, may I please be able to read the forum without fearing infection by viral stupidity?  Thanks.

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Obviously, “DragonDance” so severely misrepresents historical and current facts throughout his post, it is beneath factually debunking point by point.  It is typical of him and his buddies.

But suchmoon also says that if you dare present irrefutable evidence of his friends scamming then you should be banned for trolling

So only his friends get free speech. Everyone else must not have the choice or freedom to tell the truth.
Start to realize turkish or any other will lose your free speech here unless you unite to rid DT of these scammers and their supporters.

I do not think they are worried about race or nationality. They want a 2 tier system. One set of rules for them and one set of rules for every other member. It may appear that anti turkish.

Closer to the truth would be they fear clusters of people that are loyal to each other as the turkish community may well be. They know their control over the best sig spots and DT is dependent upon their collusion and cooperation being more powerful than any other groups.

Most people that oppose these scammers are individuals that do not unite or cooperate and are pretty easily fended off.

If the turkish or any other members want guaranteed fair treatment.  Then you must work with all other members that are turkish or not that are pushing for transparent objective standards to be introduced that will ensure all members are treated the same.

Campaign managers that refuse to publish transparent rules and standards that determine acceptance or denial must also be removed.

Each member must be give exactly  the same opportunities and chances as each other.
No more 2 tier system.

There is this thing called "free speech" and it involves tolerating speech that you don't like. If you can't do that you will have a very very hard time on this forum.

If there was an explicit death threat - report it to moderators. Otherwise there is nothing to discuss. Anybody is free to dislike anyone on any basis, including national or ethnic or racial. It takes a special kind of moron to express those opinions on a Bitcoin forum but it's not against the rules.

your criminal buddy expressed a desire to kill Turks en masse just a couple of hours ago, referenced above, on top of doing everything her gender fluid ass can muster to cause maximum damage to Turks in any given situation...

if you cant address that and instead try a laughable diversionary tactic, that says something very fundamentally wrong about you...

I don't know what are the fundamental reasons for this bullshit - and honestly I don't care much - but I have noticed that there is a disproportionate number of Turkish members waving their nationality around as if it means something here. It doesn't. This is a Bitcoin forum. If you can't put your nationalist views aside while you're here - perhaps you shouldn't be here.

It s no secret that for the biggest part of their modern history the entirety of what is today known as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, all the formerly Yugoslavian nation fragments, sizable parts of Poland, Austria, Czechia and Slovakia, in summary the whole of Balkans and considerable parts of Eastern Europe were under Turkish rule.

If the Ottoman Sultans did not sabotage their own dynasty through extensive fratricide and the later adapted practice of keeping the heir apparent locked in a cage till coronation, chances are pretty high all these lands would still be under Turkish banners today, we know for a fact that genetically they are more Turkish now than any of the nominal nationalities mentioned above...

This creates such an extreme butt-hurt amongst some forum members originating from these nation states in question that they are tripping over each other to vent out their centuries deep resentment any time a Turkish member opens a thread in Meta or Reputation.

While this is mildly amusing, we have also seen that it is leading to very unfair consequences in bounty campaigns against the Turks.

So just as a fair warning to all future campaign managers, be wary of racially motivated libel and false reports / accusations against members who are famously Turkish on this forum, they will very likely have ulterior motives based on fake nationalistic sentiment (check some of the purely spiteful ad hominem responses on the 2 threads wolwoo locked today for some blatant evidence of it: a minor sadistic villain from history who was beheaded for impaling civilians being lauded as a national hero by some loser self-declared "romanian"...  

and here psychotic criminal ~lauda expressing desire to kill Turks en masse, the only surprise here is how this account hasn't been banned ages ago)...