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I am quite certain that it will be very easy to prove if he was given IV. The UFC can begin by looking at Islam's body if there are pin marks from the IV. It might be visible until now, I reckon. In any case, this will also be very difficult for the accuser to prove. Where did they hide the nurse? Was it Khabib dressed as his wife?



Cameras are always following the fighters everywhere including the hotel. Dan Hooker is very much similar tweeting like a bitcoin fudster hehehehehee.

I'm not saying Dan Hooker is wrong here, since he might have insider knowledge. However, he should probably supply an accusation with a name, and some evidence, but for all we know he has behind the scenes. The UFC might have asked him t keep somewhat silent on the details. So, I'm not going to be quick to judge, but I'm also not going to believe someone did that until there's a little bit of proof that's been made publicly.

At the moment, we have an accusation against Islam, and no evidence whatsoever. Just people assuming Dan's telling the truth because of insider knowledge. Also, I'm wondering why it is against the rules? Call me uneducated, but an IV could just be for rehydration. If a fighter is dehydrated because of the weight cut, and was sent to hospital it's exactly what they would do. So, Dan Accusing him of cheating, isn't exactly true. Cheating implies there's an advantage to be had. I guess, you could look at it like; it's not allowed, and therefore anyone that does IV does get an advantage. However, I'm not sure why it would be banned in the first place. It's definitely not to prevent fighters from nearly killing themselves, because we've seen plenty of evidence to suggest they really push the limits to cut weight.

I think I'd want my fighters getting fluid into them at a controlled rate to be honest. Sounds, like it'd be safer especially by a nurse. Again, not defending anyone here, but taking the accusations with a grain of salt. However, I'm also interested in the rules surrounding hydrating yourself after a weight cut.

There are many controversies after Makhachev vs Volkanovski match, many people are thinking Volkanovski won the match, and I am sure we are going to see rematch soon.
Now there is one potential problem for Islam Makhachev after Dan Hooker accusing him for taking intravenous (IV) therapy after weigh-ins, that is illegal in UFC
Now we are waiting to see if USADA is going to say something about this and strip Makhachev from title:
https://twitter.com/danthehangman/status/1625041978743455745

I agree with you. There's an unspoken rule in the UFC that if you're a contender you have to confidently beat your opponent, otherwise the judges will award victory to the champion. I'm not 100 percent sure about that, but in most cases it's true. Islam and Alex did their best, it was a great fight. Will there be a rematch? I'd love to see another fight between these guys.

I think Volkanovski Rematch might be better. Because if he fights Dustin Porier or Charles Oliveria, Islam will win by an overwhelming advantage. We all saw Volkanovski, he fought well for five rounds, I think he could have won if he had spent a little more power in 2,3 rounds. We know what made Islam's face, I think this match should be repeated. Dustin Porier and Charles can fight among themselves, look, such a match would be nice again, but not with Islam anymore.

Volk does look too small at lightweight, but he is a strong fighter and one of the mixed martial arts fighters that can make him have pretty good and strong fighting skills.
We can't underestimate a fighter like Volk because even though he's small he has strong punches and a lot of power so that he can survive when he fights.
From the fight against Makachev he was able to prove that he was able to survive until the final round and only lost in points calculations because his opponent was indeed the king in the lightweight class as well as the holder of the lightweight defense belt with a winning record of 24 wins (4 KO) and one defeat.

Volk just wrestled one of the best wrestlers in the ufc and he did that going up in weight. I do not think he is to small because he had the strength and he did struggle with the height difference but I think against worse opponents he will do better. Makhachev has very good striking and I think that is why he struggled if it was against any one else I think Volk wins and that is impressive when moving up a weight.

Judges score control time which is what you are describing but to score it they need to be trying to advance their position they are lying down on their opponent and not doing any damage or moving positions you see the judges rule in the favor of the person that is being controlled but that requires the bottom fighter to be active enough to score points.

It would be boring if they went back to their divisions because they are both going to dominate their divisions. They both need this test and we have saw a Moreno v Figuerdo for the 4th time so I think he will see this fight again and maybe a trilogy if the 2nd fight is as good and close as this one was.

But why are you not interested in a rematch between Volk and Makachev? Rematch is best staged when both protagonists made a very close fight which made it somehow controversial as the winner could've gone to any of them.

Although I do think that Volk is just too small at lightweight. Although it is not popular, maybe a catchweight at 153 will make the rematch more interesting. Volk won't stay in the division if he becomes a champ anyways.

I also wonder how judges score when someone was in a dominating position on the ground yet unable to threaten a submission. Isn't just like an aggressor in a stand-up position showing ring generalship by controlling the ring and the fight making its opponent back pedaling and in defensive mode but not able to deliver a huge blow? 

Not really necessary since both fighters are done well and they put everything they got inside the cage, though one of them should be crowned as a champion, both of them are real champions because of their performance and none of them avoided the other where they took the initiative not to engage whether in the ground or when they want to strike each other. lots of fighters will come to Islam Makachev since they saw his weakness in this fight and that would be another war for sure whoever it is, from now on, he will be fighting champions and he really deserves it.

The battle was really very close, in such battles it is very difficult to give an advantage to one of the fighters, but as they say in such cases, if you are a preetindent for the title, then you should be much better than the champion, to give you victory.

Therefore, the victory of Makhachev may not be as confidient as many would like, but still deserved. Maybe Volkanovsky was a little better in the rack, but Makhachev was better in wrestling. I saw that many people write that the Volk won, but I repeat, there was no convincing advantage, none of the fighters. I don’t even know if I would like to see the revenge match, or not, I assume that it will pass approximately the same.

I was actually quite happy to see that Islam won the fight against Volkanovski. It was a very good fight as well. And I think it was a good fight from Islam because if he actually did go for more and more takedowns, I think it could have become a little one sided. But of course, it could have been a more dominating performance from Islam. That I also agree that the prediction of Khabib was right again. There is a reason why he is called “the goat”.

I have a bit opposite opinion. I think there will be no rematch, even though fans would love to see who is better (as this fight was rather close), or to see someone winning more persuasively. In the post fight interviews, Makhachev said that he wanted to test his striking more, and Volkanovski said that he needs that kind of fights to test himself, to learn new. So the both get what they wanted, both tested their skills, and now will go back to their divisions, smashing everyone else

Many are pretty much amazed at what Volkanovski is doing performing as an escape artist and he even was talking to Islam Makhachev when he was on his back like it was nothing to me many are well-known about how dominating Islam Makhachev is, but seeing how easily Alexander Volkanovski escapes him this kind of show that the boa constrictor was exposed with his ground submission,

For me, Islam Makhachev still won here because Alex Volkanovski thought he will be dominant with the striking Makhachev just out strike him getting the upper hand and Volkanovski is just down fond surprise well I think Islam Makhachev would really need his brother Khabib Nurmagomedov on his side, upon that fight Khabib called Islam and saying sorry for not being in the corner with him, so I think even though they have won the match they felt that they have lost the fight so I think Islam Makhachev's camp will surely be ready next time with Khabib Nurmagomedov on his side, and pretty much I am excited on that rematch,

Surprisingly Makhachev can fight distance and have striking power, on other hand Volkanovski do have wrestling skill and not only have striking power, both of them clearly train themselves in the other fighting style in order to surprise or fix their disadvantages. Even Makhachev clearly won the fight since he landed more punches, but it deserve a rematch and we will see if Volkanovski can knock out Makhachev in the next fight.

I think a rematch with Volkanovski might better, when he was fight with Oliveira, Makhachev's win was solid and there's no competition from Oliveira.

Two days has passed after Volkanovski vs Makhachev fight and I start to feel like I wasnt satisfied. Probably I have expected more from p4p top1 vs top2 fight. No doubt that we saw a decent fight, but this fight wont get into a list of most significant UFC fights, even though it was the first time such fighters meet. Maybe because the hype wasnt as huge as expected, maybe because there were no much drama before the fight, maybe because both fighters skills were so high and close, so it was hard to tell who is best or that turned fight a bit boring. Makhachev surprised with his striking against one of the best strikers. Volkanovski surprised with wrestling defence.

I think it was the wrong game plan for Makhachev to strike with Volk for that long.  I'm not saying Makhachev isn't a good striker but it would've been better for him to be more relentless with the take downs, wear Volk down and try to finish him with either via GnP or via sub.

And...  What did I tell you?  Who's the pie shtter.    And the funny thing is I got another lottery ticket up with Tyson Pedro at the top ticket.    By the main card I was so drunk I couldn't see straight.  I didn't care anymore.  Lolol.

Wow! Makachev did not get the submission! I am shocked by Volk's performance but even though Volk avoided the take downs Islam still dominated the fight. Islam was up on all judges score cards and one of them scored Makhachev winning 4 rounds out of 5. That is a dominant performance and I think he will be champion for a very long time he is the next khabib. I wonder who the ufc will match him up with next. I would like to see him go against Poirier and then give him Conor just because Makhachev can get the revenge for Khabib.

Now Makhachev will be champ for a long time and I think he will move divisions to get another belt. I thought he would submit Volk but I do not think any one expected Volk to have good wrestling maybe because he has not been tested many times before but he looked like he put a lot of training in the wrestling but it was still not enough to defeat Makhachev

The match I was most looking forward to of the year was indeed the best match of the year. It was a match of active mutual effort for five rounds. Volkanovski fought very clearly, he said in an interview after the match that he could have put more pressure in some places. He knows own mistake very well, we saw that Islam got tired when he took down the last round, when he hit the hammer fists, and afterwards, if he had spent energy earlier, I think it was clear that Volkanovski's cardio was better in this fight, he would have won this fight. I hope this fight is reorganized.

Right, it's probably because Khabib identified that Oliveira basically leaves himself open a lot, and while he's good on the ground, he almost always gets rocked by his opponents. The difference is, a lot of the fighters aren't confident enough on the ground to follow up, and when they do they get caught in a submission. Although, Islam knew that he's good enough on the ground he can avoid that or at least feel confident enough to engage. That, ultimately was the difference. Volk probably finds Charles quite comfortable, since he doesn't really need to engage on the ground, and is quite comfortable getting decision wins. Although, he's more than capable of knocking Charles out in one punch too.

Alexander Volkanovski and Islam Makhachev fought the best champ champ fight in my view in MMA history, majority of the champ champ fights we saw ended up in a decisive win by either opponent and Alexander Volkanovski gave Islam a lot of trouble than the rest of the fighters he faced and definitely we will be seeing them fight again.

Khabib predicted the situation when Volkanovski was the back up fighter during Olivera camp and claimed that Alexander Volkanovski would be the toughest opponent for Islam and that was literally what we witnessed and a contender for the best fight of the year.