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February 09, 2023, 10:22:23 AM
I do think fighters need to sell themselves though

I also think that fighters needs to help UFC sell their fights. Nowadays it is not enough to be just a good fighters, you need to be a businessman also. There are lot of great fighters whos career is on pause (they dont get higher ranked opponents or title fight quick) because they are boring at conference, they are not interested in to watch. Like Paddy Pimblett can sell more tickets and PPV subscriptions than top10-top15 of his division. The disability to sell themselves is a huge problem to all non US fighters, despite few who are fluent in English. And that is a big problem imho.
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February 09, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
But it's not up to fighters to act like clowns and promote fights, UFC should do that, fighters should focus more on training.
Just read all the stupid comments Dana made in last few weeks, man is either crazy or high all the time, he likes to piss on people's head and make them look weak, so you can understand who fighters are complaining so much.
He doesn't respect people at all, even his own mother said this.
Yeah, unfortunately Dana wants to be involved, but he isn't the best spokesman for the UFC. Obviously, been involved in a lot of controversy recently too which isn't a good look on the brand, and generally makes the public think less of him, and the UFC as a result. I do think fighters need to sell themselves though, they don't have to act like clowns or even like Conor, but bring some personality into it otherwise people tend to not follow you. My favourite fighters all have a bit of personality about them, and I don't think they act like clowns. Sometimes, Izzy can overstep the fact for sure, but generally if you listen to him he's quite level headed, and has some insightful conversations.


Several hours ago I have finished watching latest interview with Chimaev, and he has told that he could go fight Burns on the ground and win him. He has said that his wrestling and grappling is better than Burns. But, he has told/bet with his brother that he will rip Burns head off. So he was after KO in that fight. That is why his coach was angry on him, because they thought Burns was more dangerous standing, than on the ground (https://youtu.be/hRXML6AQgmw?t=1112 just turn on English subs if you want to watch it). Maybe he is just showing off or as usual, feels like a invincible.

Chimaev was offered to fight Whittaker. But he did not want to fight in Australia, because of visa problems (dont know if this is a big issue for fighters). Instead he has offered to fight in the US, Vegas, while he has valid visa till April. Whittaker refuses that offer. Or Chimaev was always ready to fight in UAE.
I mean, Burns did threaten on the ground too. I don't dispute the fact that Chimaev is better at wrestling, but Burns can submit anyone, and Chimaev found that out quite early on. The only point I was really worried was the ground, and pound from Chimaev on Burns, but Burns just started whacking away, and didn't seem all that bothered. I'd actually put money on Burns submitting Chimaev, especially if he can get him tired before it hits the ground.
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February 09, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Khamzat Chimaev doesn't go to the ground with Gilbert Burns because he knows that he will surely struggle and have a hard time with him on the ground because of Burns Physique, and Gilburt Burns also doesn't went for the takedowns and don't want to engage with Chimaev on the ground, because he is doubting his capabilities in the ground,


Several hours ago I have finished watching latest interview with Chimaev, and he has told that he could go fight Burns on the ground and win him. He has said that his wrestling and grappling is better than Burns. But, he has told/bet with his brother that he will rip Burns head off. So he was after KO in that fight. That is why his coach was angry on him, because they thought Burns was more dangerous standing, than on the ground (https://youtu.be/hRXML6AQgmw?t=1112 just turn on English subs if you want to watch it). Maybe he is just showing off or as usual, feels like a invincible.

Chimaev was offered to fight Whittaker. But he did not want to fight in Australia, because of visa problems (dont know if this is a big issue for fighters). Instead he has offered to fight in the US, Vegas, while he has valid visa till April. Whittaker refuses that offer. Or Chimaev was always ready to fight in UAE.
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February 09, 2023, 03:09:03 AM
Interesting to read that if Conor McGregor wins his next fight he’ll immediately be given a title shot. I don’t blame the UFC for making his path incredibly easy given that he’s their cash cow, but I imagine a lot of fighters are going to be angry about this and want to take Conor’s head off as a result. He’s going to have a hard time on this next run I think. Not sure he’s going to become champion ever again. I wouldn’t want to be the first guy to face him in his comeback though.

For me, he is one point that made the UFC well known and in that kind of antics I think the UFC has gained many fans, or many people have known the UFC because of him, well including myself, well the hype of Conor McGregor has made me interested with the UFC, but I was really aware of MMA, and before Khabib Nurmagomedov, Conor McGregor was the light that shines brightly for new fans of the sport and the UFC, I think we can all agree of it,

But yeah Conor McGregor now might have some spark, but not like the old McGregor that still has his shine and prime, for me there will be many technical fighters that can defeat him now, but if he becomes more technical then maybe he could have a chance,


Bisping is a legend, but it's kind of sad what he gave to the UFC. However, he's obviously had a very successful career, and stil does with the commentary. I'm kind of glad when the UFC found out about him hiding it, they didn't give him too much trouble. They could've easily made a statement by banning him from events, as well as competing. Obviously, I think it was revealed after he decided to retire which is probably one of the reasons it wasn't made a big deal of.

Makhachev doesn't really do a lot of promotion. He hasn't got the personality, probably due to the fact his English is limited. That's understandable though, not every fighter is good with words. It does mean they won't be as big of a superstar as someone who can talk, and fight though. Conor is the prime example of that.

Bisping is a legend and I really liked his character and how he talked and protected the MMA community, and actually seeing him fight back then without even revealing his status with his eyes it was really something else you will surely never notice about it until he revealed it publicly, and I think that Dana White and the UFC have truly inspired on what he achieved with just one eye, and surely he is great in speaking and talking so likely he is a good commentator for the UFC,

Well Islam Makhachev doesn't really need to promote himself and his skills and winning will promote on their own, while I think Conor McGregor can also be just like Cormier, or Bisping for the UFC but with that kind of temper and that mouth running wild I really doubt he ever is just like them,
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February 08, 2023, 07:01:01 PM
Makhachev doesn't really do a lot of promotion. He hasn't got the personality, probably due to the fact his English is limited. That's understandable though, not every fighter is good with words. It does mean they won't be as big of a superstar as someone who can talk, and fight though. Conor is the prime example of that.
But it's not up to fighters to act like clowns and promote fights, UFC should do that, fighters should focus more on training.
Just read all the stupid comments Dana made in last few weeks, man is either crazy or high all the time, he likes to piss on people's head and make them look weak, so you can understand who fighters are complaining so much.
He doesn't respect people at all, even his own mother said this.
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February 08, 2023, 06:49:21 PM
I didn't hear anything about this but I know many fighters have some injuries they are trying to hide, just remember how Michael Bisping was fighting with one eye during his MMA carrier.
They need to pass medical tests before fight starts but they have little tricks how to bypass them.
Problem for me is becoming Dana White, now he said that Makhachev don't know anything about fight promotion and he couldn't even remember his name.
This guy is going to ruin UFC if he continues behaving like this, cocaine and whores are making he more crazy than ever.

Bisping is a legend, but it's kind of sad what he gave to the UFC. However, he's obviously had a very successful career, and stil does with the commentary. I'm kind of glad when the UFC found out about him hiding it, they didn't give him too much trouble. They could've easily made a statement by banning him from events, as well as competing. Obviously, I think it was revealed after he decided to retire which is probably one of the reasons it wasn't made a big deal of.

Makhachev doesn't really do a lot of promotion. He hasn't got the personality, probably due to the fact his English is limited. That's understandable though, not every fighter is good with words. It does mean they won't be as big of a superstar as someone who can talk, and fight though. Conor is the prime example of that.
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February 08, 2023, 06:27:27 PM
Anyway, some talks going around that Emmett has some sort of hip injury coming into this fight.  Not sure about it tho.  It could be just that.  Rumors.
I didn't hear anything about this but I know many fighters have some injuries they are trying to hide, just remember how Michael Bisping was fighting with one eye during his MMA carrier.
They need to pass medical tests before fight starts but they have little tricks how to bypass them.
Problem for me is becoming Dana White, now he said that Makhachev don't know anything about fight promotion and he couldn't even remember his name.
This guy is going to ruin UFC if he continues behaving like this, cocaine and whores are making him more crazy than ever.
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February 08, 2023, 05:00:53 PM
So, I really like Maddalena, and I'd normally fancy him over most of the competition, but Randy Brown is worrying me. Maddalena can be a little sloppy at times, and he could get caught, and knocked out. Also, looking forward to seeing Jamie Mullarkey again. He'll be high on my list of favourites that's for sure. A real tough fighter, and leaves everything in the octagon. Honestly, this is a good event this weekend, I feel like a lot of people are sleeping on this. Some very good matchups, and I see some potential for money earned.

Anyway, some talks going around that Emmett has some sort of hip injury coming into this fight.  Not sure about it tho.  It could be just that.  Rumors.
Where are you hearing these rumours? I swear, sometimes I feel like I go in blind because I never really hear this type of thing, and just bet on tape I've watched in the past. Knowing some of this insider stuff could be what gives me my big break Tongue.
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February 08, 2023, 04:48:57 PM
Reed really isn't that good on the ground and even if she is at this match, Lookboonmee as the shorter fighter has a lower center of gravity that could make it harder for Reed to take her down.  If anything I think it's Lookboonmee who could take Reed down via body lock and trip take down.  But pretty confident it will stay on the feet. I got her at the top.

As for Volk, I get why some folks fancy him.  The line is too wide imho as Volk is tough.  It could go for the whole 5 rounds and I worry about Makhachev's cardio if pushed.
I've seen some decent ground game from her, it's just she's awful getting there. Although, I'll be going for Lookboonmee her striking is crisp, and she gets the volume out there. In close matches where a finish isn't probable then volume wins you the fights.

Yeah, I've seen Makhachev's cardio struggle before, and Volky is literally the king of cardio. I'm not betting on it, as it's just too unpredictable, but I'll be cheering on Volk you can guarantee that. A few weeks ago when they first announced the odds he was at 4.00 which is absolutely crazy to be rated that low. I haven't checked yet, but will be tomorrow when I hope to get the predictions out for this event.

^  It's either gonna be a long and close match with guys siding with Volk going 'see, what did you guys expect?' or a really short one with Makhachev subbing Volk in under 2.5 rounds with the Makhachev guys saying 'see, what did you guys expect?'.  Cheesy

Whatever happens, it's gonna be a great event.  Can't wait for the weigh ins and the face offs!  

Anyway, some talks going around that Emmett has some sort of hip injury coming into this fight.  Not sure about it tho.  It could be just that.  Rumors.
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February 08, 2023, 04:39:33 PM
Reed really isn't that good on the ground and even if she is at this match, Lookboonmee as the shorter fighter has a lower center of gravity that could make it harder for Reed to take her down.  If anything I think it's Lookboonmee who could take Reed down via body lock and trip take down.  But pretty confident it will stay on the feet. I got her at the top.

As for Volk, I get why some folks fancy him.  The line is too wide imho as Volk is tough.  It could go for the whole 5 rounds and I worry about Makhachev's cardio if pushed.
I've seen some decent ground game from her, it's just she's awful getting there. Although, I'll be going for Lookboonmee her striking is crisp, and she gets the volume out there. In close matches where a finish isn't probable then volume wins you the fights.

Yeah, I've seen Makhachev's cardio struggle before, and Volky is literally the king of cardio. I'm not betting on it, as it's just too unpredictable, but I'll be cheering on Volk you can guarantee that. A few weeks ago when they first announced the odds he was at 4.00 which is absolutely crazy to be rated that low. I haven't checked yet, but will be tomorrow when I hope to get the predictions out for this event.
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February 08, 2023, 04:16:35 PM
Lol...  I'm pretty sure you'll be betting on some of the matches at 284 then.  Wink  Since it's a 'shouldn't miss' event and all.  Grin  But yeah, I looove watching MMA, so I just couldn't not make at least a lottery ticket and out a little something in it.

Anyway here's what my lottery ticket for 284 might look like.  Haven't bet it yet.

Tukughov - Mackhachev - Lookboonmee
Add:  Pedro - Maddalena - Rodriguez
Add:  Bilder - Rodrigues - Porter
Add:  Jenkins - Mullarkey - Culibao
Add:  Menifield
You know it. I'm probably fancying Volkanovski, but I'm liking your Maddalena, Mullarkey, and Lookboonmee picks. The latter I'd probably be the most concerned with, since Elise Reed is pretty good on the ground, just not great getting it there. Lookboonmee has the volume though, so I do feel somewhat confident in that pick. I'll get my proper picks out closer to the date, but that's my early leans, and for the most part I agree with your picks.

Although, I said I fancy Volky I'm absolutely not betting on that fight. Too many variables, but I've doubted Volkanovski before, but it turns out you just can't go against a ex rugby player Wink.


Reed really isn't that good on the ground and even if she is at this match, Lookboonmee as the shorter fighter has a lower center of gravity that could make it harder for Reed to take her down.  If anything I think it's Lookboonmee who could take Reed down via body lock and trip take down.  But pretty confident it will stay on the feet. I got her at the top.

As for Volk, I get why some folks fancy him.  The line is too wide imho as Volk is tough.  It could go for the whole 5 rounds and I worry about Makhachev's cardio if pushed.
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February 08, 2023, 02:02:57 PM
Interesting to read that if Conor McGregor wins his next fight he’ll immediately be given a title shot. I don’t blame the UFC for making his path incredibly easy given that he’s their cash cow, but I imagine a lot of fighters are going to be angry about this and want to take Conor’s head off as a result. He’s going to have a hard time on this next run I think. Not sure he’s going to become champion ever again. I wouldn’t want to be the first guy to face him in his comeback though.
On his return, many fighters will fight him and beat him, estimating him as weak, and want to say I beat McGregor. McGregor is like Aslan, you never know what will happen, so I wouldn't want to meet him on his return. His next fight will be very difficult, I am very undecided about whether he will be able to leave here successfully. We have almost zero knowledge of his condition after the injury so it will be a bit of a surprise.
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February 08, 2023, 01:45:40 PM
Interesting to read that if Conor McGregor wins his next fight he’ll immediately be given a title shot. I don’t blame the UFC for making his path incredibly easy given that he’s their cash cow, but I imagine a lot of fighters are going to be angry about this and want to take Conor’s head off as a result. He’s going to have a hard time on this next run I think. Not sure he’s going to become champion ever again. I wouldn’t want to be the first guy to face him in his comeback though.
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February 08, 2023, 01:23:59 PM

Lets see how he is going to fight this weekend without Khabibs assistance. His striking coach Javier Mendez, told that they will cope well without Khabib in Islams corner. Btw, the odds, because of no Khabib in Islams corner, did not change at all. Bookies are also as confident in this win as Islam Cheesy Due to Volkanovski being smaller than Islam, and all those muscles, it a bit lowers Makhachevs wrestling level, because it will be harder to choke opponent that has no neck lol Cheesy

Those muscles were for the takedowns and the submission attempts and to ensure that he will be dominant when it comes to the ground game, Islam Makhachev is really something, and just like Khabib Nurmagomedov, and Khamzat Chimaev or other fighters that are well verse in combat sambo and Dagestan Wrestling then needed strength in their wrestling in controlling their opponent, Khamzat Chimaev doesn't go to the ground with Gilbert Burns because he knows that he will surely struggle and have a hard time with him on the ground because of Burns Physique, and Gilburt Burns also doesn't went for the takedowns and don't want to engage with Chimaev on the ground, because he is doubting his capabilities in the ground,


I didn't mean to disrespect Holloway, although there's a chance something will happen when no one expect it before. The reason why I said that because Holloway isn't an unique fighter which has a capability to beat Makhachev, if he's a volume puncher and has more than 90% KO rate, I might think he can beat Makhachev. So I wouldn't think we will see paper rock scissors.

But maybe in the next year(s) we will see good contender who can beat Volkanovski or Makhachev, it's Alex Pereira.

Don't worry that is your opinion on Holloway, but regarding saying that Makhachev already beat Holloway if he beat Volkanovski, is surely not applicable for now, in some cases, I am very positive that Islam Makhachev can win against Alex Volkanovski, but there is this doubt that I feel because Alex Volkanovsi is pretty much confidence in getting this fight, he also asks for this fight aswell, If Alex Volkanovski is pretty much confidence like this he surely have a game plan ready for Makhachev, and Islam Makhachev for me he doesn't want to underestimate a man full of confidence, so there is a chance for Volkanovski in defeating Makhachev and for Holloway to beat Makhachev aswell,
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February 08, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
It is very rare that a fighter dominates his division so fast like Makhachev. Makhachev has smashed everyone in front of him and does not look like losing in that division. Volk is good but we is very small compared to Makhachev and volk has struggled a couple of times before with wrestlers. Makhachev is one of the best wrestlers in the ufc and that is why volk is going to struggle. If volk can keep it on the feet then I think he will win but that would be a big thing to because Makhachev out reaches him too. I know that volk is normally the smaller fighter but this is a big difference when a good wrestler like Makhachev is the opponent.

Lets see how he is going to fight this weekend without Khabibs assistance. His striking coach Javier Mendez, told that they will cope well without Khabib in Islams corner. Btw, the odds, because of no Khabib in Islams corner, did not change at all. Bookies are also as confident in this win as Islam Cheesy Due to Volkanovski being smaller than Islam, and all those muscles, it a bit lowers Makhachevs wrestling level, because it will be harder to choke opponent that has no neck lol Cheesy
But volk only has a chance because of his punching ability but because he is so small and there is a wrestling threat from Makhachev then Volk is not going to be able to get close to him. I think he could get knocked out to because he will be to worried about the submission and will lower his guard to prevent the TD and will get caught. Makhachev has got a good haymaker and some good jabs. The safest bet imo would be the money line for Makhachev but I will be going for submission for the better odds.
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February 08, 2023, 10:25:49 AM
Khabib might not be in his corner, but he's taught him enough for it to be muscle memory. It probably won't make much of a difference not having him in the corner on the night.

Allow me to comment a little.

On the UFC we have two fighter, Islam Makhachev in main card and Zubaira Tukhugov in early prelims. They both are students of Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, they both a good and close friends, and friends of Khabib. Basically they have trained together, lived together, spend time together. They are almost same age. On the paper, based on their fighting background, they should be a copy paste of each other. They have parallel paths of becoming professional fighters. However, Makhachev is a lightweight champ with 23-1 (12-1 in UFC). record, Tukhugov 20-5 (5-3-1 in UFC).

Abdulmanap has taught them identically, but they are different. Teaching is not enough. Their next fights gonna show how they are prepared without Khabib. Some people say that Makhachev is sort of a Abdulanaps account who is playing "same Khabib but under new character", or Makhachev was in Khabibs shadow. Now Makhachev is on his own. Excited to see how he performs.
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February 08, 2023, 09:45:21 AM
I really dislike the idea of saying if he beat him that beat the other fighter technically he also beat him, for me, it is not really respectable for the other fighter, because there might be some skill on that fighter that could be a weakness for the other, I am saying is if he wants to fight to see what is real and what is really not for me if Max Holloway wants to also fight Makhachev then let him prove himself not just because Volkanovski lost to Makhachev for example doesn't really mean that Islam Makhachev also beat Max Holloway aswell,
I didn't mean to disrespect Holloway, although there's a chance something will happen when no one expect it before. The reason why I said that because Holloway isn't an unique fighter which has a capability to beat Makhachev, if he's a volume puncher and has more than 90% KO rate, I might think he can beat Makhachev. So I wouldn't think we will see paper rock scissors.

But maybe in the next year(s) we will see good contender who can beat Volkanovski or Makhachev, it's Alex Pereira.
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February 08, 2023, 08:56:49 AM
Did you see the odds for main event?
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/ufc-284/matches

Islam Makhachev is massive favorite but I don't see any value in betting on him.
I do expect fight won't go to distance, so only potential bet for me would be Makhachev to win by submission.
Let's see how Islam will be in first fight without coach Khabib in corner.
I am not very excited about other fights on this card, but I must watch main event.

Yeah, now the bookies might be right, but that gap in odds is very odd to me. It's like Makhachev is going against a unknown or unproven fighter, but Volky has proven the bookies wrong multiple times. Khabib might not be in his corner, but he's taught him enough for it to be muscle memory. It probably won't make much of a difference not having him in the corner on the night.

It's a pretty good event top to bottom. Obviously, the main draw is usually the main event, hence why you see all the empty seats around the octagon. I've never really understood that though, if I'm paying the prices they ask for these days, you can bet I'm watching every single one of those fights including the prelims.
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February 08, 2023, 06:41:40 AM
It is very rare that a fighter dominates his division so fast like Makhachev. Makhachev has smashed everyone in front of him and does not look like losing in that division. Volk is good but we is very small compared to Makhachev and volk has struggled a couple of times before with wrestlers. Makhachev is one of the best wrestlers in the ufc and that is why volk is going to struggle. If volk can keep it on the feet then I think he will win but that would be a big thing to because Makhachev out reaches him too. I know that volk is normally the smaller fighter but this is a big difference when a good wrestler like Makhachev is the opponent.

Lets see how he is going to fight this weekend without Khabibs assistance. His striking coach Javier Mendez, told that they will cope well without Khabib in Islams corner. Btw, the odds, because of no Khabib in Islams corner, did not change at all. Bookies are also as confident in this win as Islam Cheesy Due to Volkanovski being smaller than Islam, and all those muscles, it a bit lowers Makhachevs wrestling level, because it will be harder to choke opponent that has no neck lol Cheesy
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February 08, 2023, 03:01:49 AM

It is very rare that a fighter dominates his division so fast like Makhachev. Makhachev has smashed everyone in front of him and does not look like losing in that division. Volk is good but we is very small compared to Makhachev and volk has struggled a couple of times before with wrestlers. Makhachev is one of the best wrestlers in the ufc and that is why volk is going to struggle. If volk can keep it on the feet then I think he will win but that would be a big thing to because Makhachev out reaches him too. I know that volk is normally the smaller fighter but this is a big difference when a good wrestler like Makhachev is the opponent.

Both fighters have one loss if they would look at each other's weaknesses they will look for people that led them to lose the fight well both were pretty much alike when it comes to their losses, both miscalculated the situation, and I think this will be their cap window of opportunity that they will be exposing and seeing when these two clashes, Well, in my opinion, Alex Volkanovski has some wrestling in him aswell he surely practice in that and got a few wins on the ground, but when it comes to wrestling Makhachev is really high regarding his wrestling and is very proud with the Dagestan Wrestling for sure, so yeah Volkanovski will surely struggle a lot!


Did you see the odds for main event?
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/ufc-284/matches

Islam Makhachev is massive favorite but I don't see any value in betting on him.
I do expect fight won't go to distance, so only potential bet for me would be Makhachev to win by submission.
Let's see how Islam will be in first fight without coach Khabib in corner.
I am not very excited about other fights on this card, but I must watch main event.


Yup! will be betting on a combo mode and not with the regular win, it is not really profitable when you want to bet for Islam Makhachev, and he is the heavy favorite to win, that is why but will be giving my picks for the other fights will be just completing some of my information about the fighters, to make my final verdict and prediction of what may happen on the fight, well I think it will affect Makhachev's performance by a little but it will not stop him in smashing Volkanovski for sure,
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