Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 260. (Read 100412 times)

Let's not get into the conversation of real fighting, offering less money to the fighters because it's easy to fool people and people also want to be fooled.

Anyway, I am not against some fancy entries but I am also not for it as well. A fighter can do anything he wants as long as he is in the right state of mind and as long as it helps him win. But obviously, it will be better If the fighters actually concentrate on improving and how to defeat their opponent instead of trying to think about new ways of entering into the octagon. Having a larger amount of fans on your side is not going to help you win the fight, as this is UFC, not WWE. Israel Adesanya has a good technique and I think he could defeat his opponent this time.

Yeah, Alex is a hard read. We haven't really seen him challenged, however that's partly because his opponents have sort of played into his game. Sean Strickland basically sat on the centre line, and wanted to knock him out. He wasn't even moving his head. I literally saw that knockout coming before it even did, and I think a lot of other people did too. It would just crazy to think he went into the fight like that.

Bruno Silva is the best fight to watch to get a feel of his skill. However, Izzy isn't going to fight like Silva. Izzy doesn't really fight like anyone else. He's got a style of his own, and he's incredibly lanky (for a lack of a better word) for the division, which means he can score points in relative safety. I don't think Alex is going to get close to him personally, Izzy will be using leg kicks to keep the distance, and will have an escape route whenever Alex gets too close.

It's up to Alex if he wants to get close, and I'm not even sure how he's going to do it with how long limbed Izzy is, and the fact that you'd assume Izzy is better versed in takedown defense, and takedowns themselves. So, when you look at their previous bouts, Izzy had the upper hand until he didn't. If you take a look at their UFC records, then Izzy probably has the upper hand, but with the added benefit of being able to change things up if he wants too. He probably doesn't, but at least he has that card to play if he does find himself in trouble.

Alex seems to have okay takedown defense when we've seen it. Not brilliant, but not bad for someone who's relatively new to the UFC.

Well, all we can do is hope and pray, Alex Pereira is surely dangerous and without any wind, up at all those punches can surely be lethal to Adesanya and if he is just using an old technique that I think Alex Pereira has already seen then this will surely be easy for him, but I still got my hope for Israel Adesanya, but right now Israel Adesanya is still the favorite to win, all odds pertaining for him, but I really like how you elaborate how the fight will surely go down and a recent interview with Alex Pereira that Israel Adesanya is Mentally Shock ahead of their fight UFC 281, if Israel Adesanya still had that lost in his head then this will surely be his last fight to hold on to be champion,


After reading what you have said I get a good look now, maybe you are right it makes sense Israel Adesanya is likely not like this to be losing composure after the fight, I think he is just playing along for many to surely doubt him, but at the end of the day he will stay in the safe side of things always on the technical aspect of the fight, and surely Adesanya is good at that

And right now I am getting the thrill and the chills at the same time that is why I am very much excited about this fight, for me I can not get more about Alex Pereira's technique because of how fast he finished his fight, and always with a knockout,

They are all opinion base so we're split on whoever might win but the odds speak for it.
Some say Pereira is confident and has power and striking accuracy also, the guy comes from a humble beginning and is very hungry for success and he wants Adensanya's success also.

Adensanya's advantage is the long experience and speed. He already said he may not give us showmanship but will stick to his game plan to win. Alex could become aggressive as he always does and Izzy might just wait for a mistake.

I will be going for my picks like Weili and Chandler also, I think the two will have success in thier match.

 

according to mmafighting.com alex beat Adesanya twice in kickboxing, but today Adesanya will want revenge, but if Adesanya loses today in the UFC it will be very sad and humiliating for him, I see a lot of people laughing when talking about the possibility of Adesanya losing and looking at what Adesanya said in the interview it seems to me that he is not very confident that he will win, the guy said a lot that I didn't understand at all

bookmakers are putting him as a favorite and there is a big difference in odds:

alex = @2.70
Adesanya = @1.47

but i still believe that alex managed to win

See?  Here we go again...  Adesanya likes to talk big during the build up before the event and then come fight day, it's just more of the same we saw in his last three matches.  I think the match ends up exactly like Adesanya vs Cannonier unless it's Pereira who surpises us.  Lolol.  I got Adesanya to win but rooting for violence.


Lmao.  Yeah I think that's prolly the only thing new he could bring tbh. 

Anyway Stake has new prop markets!  Check it out..

https://stake.com/sports/mma/ufc/ufc-281-adesanya-vs-pereira/42882957-adesanya-israel-pereira-alex

I kinda like Adesanya double chance (KO or decision) at 1.60.  That looks like a safe bet.

Israel  Adesanya is a great fighter and he is very confident about beating his opponent. And I am not going to say that he is going to win but he is a person who seems to be someone who knows what he is doing and what he is talking about. So, I think ok he actually has a plan about how he is going to approach things.

I know we all got excited about Israel vs Paulo Costa, and that did not turn out to be even competitive. But I don't think that will be the case this time.

Alex has already beaten him. If I am not mistaken, that was in kickboxing. I think that is another reason for Israel Adesanya to be very motivated to win this fight.

Yeah, real fights with money rewards lower than in WWE I am not against such entry performances. I might even say that I like it, because it is entertaining. Much better than walk to octagon with dull and serious faces. Faces like someone died or is going to die. With such attitude from your team, it is mentally hard to fight. I think it was Ali who asked his team to smile always, as this calms him down and helps to fight with the stress. Like the fight is just a training and no big deal.

If I am making predictions in UFC Multi Master Challenge than I am going to pick Adesanya to win this fight, but you are right that betting on him to win outright is not worth it.
Maybe some special bet could work better, like winning method or will fight go to distance or not, but there is big value betting on Pereira.
I first want to see their pre fight interviews and faceoffs before I make my final decision about the main event.

Entry performance with music and light effects will certainly be new.
He likes to spend time creating this himself, all this reminds me little on Undertaker and WWE, but in MMA we have real fighting

Izzy seems to be very vocal on knocking Alex out. While Alex is relatively quiet in comparison. I just can't see Izzy risking it. Izzy knows he's probably the better technical fighter, and even when he did get knocked out in the past, he was winning that fight. So, risking it all to basically knock out Alex, which he's perfectly capable of doing, don't get me wrong. Just seems like he's playing into the hands of Alex a little bit.

I'm seeing 1.50 odds for a Izzy win, and the decision would be around 2.30 which honestly the latter probably isn't worth the risk, because if Izzy does decide to come out guns blazing, he has every chance of getting a knockout, whether that's on Alex or himself.

I do think Izzy will win. I'll be hoping for that outcome, but I'll be honest this is probably the most excited I've been for a Izzy fight since Costa, and we know how that turned out .

Yeah, he prolly won't.  Lol.  But it's just me...  I feel like he could and should.  It's up to him if he does or doesn't use that ace up his sleeve if he has it.

Overall I think we'll see the same of what Adesanya did with Cannonier.  Cannonier has massive powerrr in his hands too but he wasn't able to use it as Adesanya is really pretty good at evading and in fighting from the outside.  One difference between Cannonier and Pereira tho is Pereira doesn't need a lot of wind up to generate power.  So it's less telegraphed and more dangerous.  It could come out of nowhere.

Here's the Multi Master.  Enjoy... 

UFC 281 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-281-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5419956

Well, we all have different kinds of like and I think he just like the fact that this fight could be the fight of the year, but for the majority here that this fight could be down below tier being great, but there might be a reason behind him for saying things like this because for me the Main-event will be the one that most fans are quite looking forward in seeing, and I know many wants to see Israel Adesanya getting beaten by Alex Pereira for sure, for the many that are posting here that saying the style of Izzy is boring then this is a chance for them to see a knockout but this time they like Israel Adesanya to be beaten down by Pereira,

But as for me, this is still going according to Israel Adesanya's plan and I want this fight to get dicey for sure, and for Israel Adesanya to pull some exciting moves maybe a takedown (please)

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That does not look like a fight of the year to me. I think it is easy to predict a winner here - Poirier. Because Chandler is overrated. Chandler, a master of wrestling, wont use that advantage over a pure striker like Poirier, and will be knocked out. Chandler should have stayed in Bellator. He was a champ there, but now is 2-2 in UFC, lost to every good opponent. Who has he beaten? Old Ferguson? Hooker, who has lost 4 out of 5 last fights. And Poirier, who has only lost by subs to a submission master like Khabib and Oliveira (if we take last 5-8 years).

Probably you are right Israel Adesanya needs to have a new game plan for Alex Pereira, we can say the demons are bugging Israel Adesanya to clear out his mind, but the sight of Pereira could be a fright for him or big perseverance to stay focused, for me I like seeing an Israel Adesanya evolving his style takedowns could surely be a master plan and a weakness to Pereira, it will surely disrupt his fight patterns but does Israel Adesanya wants to risk it if his mindset is just like Francis Ngannou to do the unbelievable like Ngannou in order to win he would likely do something he never has done before just to surprise not only Pereira but also the fans that are doubting him,


Well, we will surely see in the fight if he will do it or not, or if he got another ace on his sleeve, but for him to pull that off he needs to risk it for Pereira which is not like Israel Adesanya to do, but like you, I am really hopeful, at least make a clear statement to Alex Pereira that this is his turf and with him getting in is like entering a house uninvited, for me Knockout or submission win will surely give Alex Pereira the impression that it is still too early for him to try out the Champion that he needs to crawl down the from below first,

^  I'm kinda hopeful Adesanya would show us something new...  Like a new shade in his overall game plan like going for TD's?  As I said before, I feel like Adesanya has to incorporate some wrestling against Pereira and get his arms fatigued and take away some of that powerrr.  And if he has to do it, he has to do it early.  Like the first couple of rounds.  Dunno...  Just my humble opinion.

If Adesanya does do it again like he did Cannonier, k.  But it's gonna be risky.

Some vids.  Enjoy!

UFC Free Fight:  Chandler vs Ferguson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwcFtAMMvw

UFC Free Fight:  Poirier vs Gaethje
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpT_3WGE3LU

UFC Free Fight:  Weili vs JJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE36jWLLoI

UFC Free Fight:  Esparza vs Namajunas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPABCfEoe1Q

Honestly at those odds, there's no point on betting Izzy. He's most likely to win via a decision I would think, if you want to bolster it, but Alex definitely has a chance. I do think Izzy is a better fighter now though, and he'll be more familiar with MMA, and might even try to mix in a few takedowns just to put Alex off his game. That could potentially be risky though.

Izzy will most likely keep his distance, and not stand in front of Alex like Strickland did. It'll honestly probably be a rather boring fight with Izzy point fighting, and Alex looking for the knockout. I wish Izzy would just put on a show, and try to knock him out because of their history, but I just can't see it. There's too much for Izzy to lose, and he's almost got into a pattern now where he just does enough to win, whatever way that might be.

I'm a fan of Izzy obviously, and while I still respect the way he fights, because he's nothing short of brilliant. However, from a entertainment perspective he's lost a lot of his pull. He used to be one of the most exciting fighters on the roster, but with defending the belt, that's changed somewhat.

Poirier vs Chandler would be exciting and some articles said that it could be the 'fight' of this year. Both has advantages over another but I'd probably go with Dustin. Well, I cannot clearly vision his edge over iron mike but I have a good feeling on this one for him. Both has 'heat' at the present to win this fight but I',d bias experience. Also poirier is a cleaner fighter (just in my pov). But if ever iron mike would win this one, I'd still be happy as a fan but not as a gambler LOL. My basis on my bias with this fight is hunger. Dustin's name became more popular when he settled the score between him and McGregor. Given that his recent fight was a lost, it might give him a bigger drive to "reclaim" the throne. But as I've said, whoever wins would be fine. Bith are great fighters in the first place, I'm gonna surely enjoy this one.

Anything can really happen inside the Octagon, and seeing how wild Alex Pereira can be he has the solid power punch that could end up the reign of Israel Adesanya, for sure, but I am staying with Israel Adesanya, he has been 3 years since he won the Middleweight belt against Kelvin Gastelum, and this is MMA, not kickboxing there are different rules that was set here and in kickboxing, that for me Israel Adesanya will surely win this against Alex Pereira for sure,

While for Carla Esparza VS Zhang Weili, I really think Weili outgrew Rose Namajunas to seal a rematch again but for Carla Esparza, I think she will have a problem with her, but we will see if she is really beyond what she has achieved, because I think she will likely be having a problem when it comes to Carla Esparza,


That was great for you in getting the main event but surely it was a fight that could go a different way Lemos was pretty much in a dominant position she successfully got the jabs, and the takedowns, and surely it will not account for much for Marina Rodriguez to retaliate, because Amanda Lemos was all over her, but that was it, I was just upset on the results that are all,

I was late in checking on the fights but I had my bet on different fighters with the main event and I kinda like how Amanda Lemos back then even though she doesn't have the reach advantage and doesn't have the height as well, she has really shown her strength when she slammed Marina Rodriguez to the ground that was one epic takedown from her, and I think that she will be a bigger threat to the Women's Strawweight Division for sure and I really think she needs to get her revenge on Jessica Andrade, from their recent fight lost,

While in the Co-main, I went with Neil Magny aswell I really think he's got the height reach, and experience to inking Daniel Rodriguez a defeat, and lastly I went to Jinh Yu Frey that I regretted which I think Jinh Yu Frey will be faster than Viana, which is not the thing that happen,

UFC 281



Date: November 6, 2022
Main Card: SUN, NOV 13 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: SUN, NOV 13 / 3:00 AM EET
Early Prelims: SUN, NOV 13 / 1:00 AM EET

Venue: Madison Square Garden

Main card (ESPN+)
Middleweight: Israel Adesanya (c) vs. Alex Pereira
Women's Strawweight: Carla Esparza (c) vs. Zhang Weili
Lightweight: Dustin Poirier vs. Michael Chandler            
Bantamweight: Frankie Edgar vs. Chris Gutiérrez            
Lightweight: Dan Hooker vs. Claudio Puelles

Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Brad Riddell vs. Renato Moicano            
Light Heavyweight: Dominick Reyes vs. Ryan Spann            
Women's Flyweight: Molly McCann vs. Erin Blanchfield            
Middleweight: Andre Petroski vs. Wellington Turman

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)   
Lightweight: Matt Frevola vs. Ottman Azaitar            
Women's Strawweight: Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Silvana Gómez Juárez            
Featherweight: Michael Trizano vs. Choi Seung-woo            
Bantamweight: Julio Arce vs. Montel Jackson            
Light Heavyweight: Carlos Ulberg vs. Nicolae Negumereanu   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_281