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gotta give Dana the credit for not censoring his fighters too. this i think is one of the freedom that Dana gives to his fighters, they can say what they want to say.
the only issue with Sean is that he doesn't speak to win over the audience to-go on his side. he isn't a politician i think that's normal but he does have a youtube channel with huge followers too afaik. speaking of normal. just as Sean said in one of his interviews, teaching kids to be gay isn't normal. he isn't wrong.

anyway, was he robbed in this fight just as comments on many videos online?

That's precisely what makes him appealing to the crowds even outside the MMA world. A guy who speaks his mind and not bending to political correctness will always be more interesting and reliable to an average person than fighters who self-censor themselves to not offend anyone and not to upset their sponsors.
Funny thing, he's not even that controversial, he's views are (still) pretty much dominating among the "normal" people, it's just we're not used to anyone saying that kind of things out loud.

Sean was already well known even before his Adesanya. he ranked at the top too. but after his win vs Izzy, he really floated in many channels. every time his name is mentioned, it already rings a bell.

but i think this time he is demonized because of his gay comments. mind you after his gay comments some political channels are talking about him and how Dana didn't tighten the leash of his dogs.

First of all, he was holding back at the beginning of his career and wasn't very "controversial". Second of all, it's pretty normal not to be famous when you're low in rankings or not ranked at all. But the point is, once you get famous and people recognise you - you can't just switch it off.
It's not like everyone will get a sudden amnesia and not know who Sean Strickland is just because he no longer holds the belt.
All he needs to do to stay hyped up, is to perform somewhat OK, win a fight once in a while and keep doing what he's doing. Look at Nate Diaz (just one of many examples), he had never won any belt and was losing a lot of fights, but didn't stop him from being one of the most famous UFC fighters. Strickland has way better potential than Nate. After that press conference when he bashed that canadian reporter, he got way more exposure in social media than after winning with Adesanya. He got tonnes of quotes from people not even remotely interested in mma.

But it looks like it will still take lot of time and of course this fight cannot be held in short time because Pereira championship title is at stake and Dana knows who is worthy challenger for the belt, namely Jamahal Hill.
Magomedov Ankalaev is not yet able to meet Pereira in the near future, of course Dana knows better what decision he has to make.
Jamahal Hill will not only care about money but also about the titles he can achieve, if he succeeds in getting them then in future fights he will also be able to get large amounts of money again.
This is very important for Jamahal Hill and he will try to win it later when he is fully recovered and able to fight.

Yes, you are right and indeed this is all business to make money and Dana will be able to make decisions that will give her more money.
But if Pereira faces Magomedov Ankalaev then he won't get huge amount of money.
Unless Dana is able to create really explosive hype for the Magomedov Ankalaev vs Pereira fight then the fight can definitely happen more quickly.

Because when he won belt from Adesanya, he was everywhere in the media. Starting from interview, ending with his past controversial statements. Before fights with Adesanya, Pereira or against top of middleweight division, did many know about him? He was "that redneck who talks crap" only. But he has been in UFC for 7-8 years before that. Everyone remember champions, nobody remember losers. Everyone gonna pay all attention to Izzy and DDP, and I am afraid that Strickland will be lost among rest of UFC fighters.

^  You could watch it and all the other matches at MMA Core.  

https://www.mma-core.com/videos/Sean_Strickland_vs_Dricus_Du_Plessis_Full_Fight_UFC_297_Part_1/10555409

I think DDP won too.  He took Strickland down when it mattered.


Strickland actually looked like he was slowing down at R3 and R4 and it was DDP that started to look surprisingly good on those rounds.  Be it a change of pace on DDP's side or Strickland getting tired because he couldn't set the tempo like he did Adesanya, I don't know...  

Anyway, just noticed that we have another gap week.  :/  So no UFC this weekend folks.  Sucks...

I haven't watched the fight, I only saw some highlights of their fight on TikTok, it's hard to say who deserved win because one should see a full match but seems, many people think that it was a robbery. Long story short, I'll watch the full fight and write my comment about that. But I watched DP's post-fight interview and interviewer asked him what he was thinking about Dana White's opinion that he thought Stickland was a winner and I'll be frank, I was drinking coffee and split it when I saw his red swollen, destroyed face and heard his response that Dana's answer was bullshit.

Strickland looking fresh in the last rounds is proof he could've been more active in the earlier rounds. I think even his corner told him to get more active.
As for DDP, i think he's one of the fighters who would breathe through their mouths when getting even a little bit tired. That makes him looked way more exhausted than he actually is.

Looking at the number of strikes alone could be deceptive. He could have built that advantage in the 2 rounds won but still lost the other 3 rounds. Plus, the actual damage caused is what really matters.


If Adesnaya is to return, this would be the perfect time. If not Adesanya, it'd have to be either Cannonier, a rematch with Strickland, Chimaev (when he recovers from whatever health problems he is having) although he doesn't deserve the title shot yet, or Paolo Costa if he manages to defeat Whittaker.


Why though? The hype around him was built on his personality, not on his skills etc. He's not going anywhere and he's got nothing to be ashamed of. He lost by solid decision against a guy who was not only undefeated in the UFC, but who also won all his fights (apart from one) by finishes.

Here are the results of my bet and prediction for UFC 297 and it is not looking really great,

Sean Strickland VS Dricus Du Plessis ROUND 5 DECISION - LOST

Many fans seem to think that Sean Strickland won this fight but apparently for me what I think about the fight and what I have seen Dricus Du Plessis really won that fight it looks so close but because Du Plessis is a stronger puncher than Strickland that is why Sean Strickland is really having a hard time with Dricus, and as I have said Dricus Du Plessis punches are kind of clunky some times and it is not working against Strickland for sure both fighters did great in their recent  fights but in this fight, it seems that they are both making some mistakes Dricus Du Plessis constantly throwing random punches that kind of has some effect against Strickland because he can defend those while Sean Strickland has no aggression in this fight at all that is why Dricus Du Plessis won,

Neil Magny VS Mike Malott ROUND 5 DECISION - LOST

Mike Malott was forcing a lot of takedowns going into this fight which is why he constantly gets fatigued in the 3rd round for sure I thought that Malott could have a lot of cardio in this fight but I was wrong in thinking that because for sure his only plan was the takedowns against Magny, while Neil Magny was patient in this fight waiting for the right opportunity, because of that reach he is penetrating with the jabs, while Mike Malott doesn't learn from his mistakes and keeps doing the same thing over and over that is not really effective against Magny, while Malott has shown fatigue Magny has seen the opportunity in finishing Malott getting the ground and pound in place and Mike Malott can not have the strength to push Magny Anymore,

Arnold Allen VS Movsar Evloev ROUND 3 DECISION - WIN

There are a lot of controversial calls for the ref to say that Movsar Evloev was a grounded fighter when Arnold Allen was throwing the knee, but for sure before that incident, I don't know if the referee would give him a deduction, but Movsar Evloev got a hard time against Arnold Allen that is for sure but because Movsar Evloev might get the knee they deducted some point on Allen, but for sure I think Arnold Allen did a lot in this fight but because it was not what I want to happen Movsar Evloev won the fight but if Arnold Allen will have a concern I gladly accept that he has won this because it was clear the fight was close,

WOW! Thanks, it was really amazing actually after I made my bet I got some plans with friends so I didn't watch it live, and this is the only time I saw the fights and it was a relief seeing that all of my bets won, for sure the defense of Strickland is really amazing but if that is the only thing he knows he will never win with a fighter that has knockout power, Dricus Du Plessis is also a is a scary dude but Sean Strickland has handled him in the 1st round but that was enough because in the following round, While Niel Magny is somewhat prove that he is still got it in him, he is the gatekeeper in that ranking from that division,

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Now the results of my pick and prediction for the UFC 297 I was really grateful that I have gotten all of my bets,

Sean Strickland (1.95) VS Dricus Du Plessis (1.98) - WIN


Sean Strickland was really great in the 1st Round but after that, Dricus Du Plessis has shown that he has the power to go and take him down, and because his Philly Shell would abandon the slightly crouch position down he is effective against Strickland, which Adesanya did not do in their fight it was like he didn't explore in doing it a possibility to defeat Strickland while Dricus Du Plessis did not hesitate in doing until he got the points he needed to defeat Sean Strickland he has the aggressiveness and explosiveness needed in order to win,

Raquel Pennington (2.45) VS Mayra Bueno Silva (1.63) - WIN


Raquel Pennington was destroying Mayra Bueno Silva with her accurate striking, you can clearly see on Bueno Silva's face the damage Mayra Bueno Silva nearly got the Naked choke but Pennigton stopped that from happening it was clear that Raquel Pennington learned from her fight against Amanda Nunes, and from her fight against her previous opponents, but that Striking was really punishable against Bueno Silva from the looks of it I really thought that she can knock-out her opponent but Mayra Bueno Silva withstood that beating,

Chris Curtis (1.56) VS Marc-André Barriault (2.65) - WIN


That Counterstrike and the upper were very effective against Marc Andre Barriault, Chris Curtis was looking great in this fight while he expected what style Andre Barriault would do in this fight he landed those uppercuts so well, and even countered his opponent so much that Marc-Andre didn't expect it, until in the last round Marc-Andre Barriault eventually welcome what type of fighting Curtis wants but it was really late for him for not being aggressive enough than entering the 3rd round,

It is not that DDP was tired in championship round, but Strickland looked more fresh. Ive noticed he has good tank in late rounds agains Adesanya. In general, I like main event fight. I think Strickland landed more strikes. That would be enough to win imho, but it was DDP who welcomed each strike with face.

I dont agree with split decision. Draw would be better result, followed by a rematch. Becoming a champ via SD. I dont know. That is so shaking. Who faces DDP now? Izzy?

P.S. Feel sad for Strickland, as I think hype around him going to go really low, but he is such a funny guy

^  I was expecting 'to the death'.  Lolol.  Kidding, I really loved it but both couldn't finish each other.  Both styles were preventing them from knocking each other out.  But it was a very good fight.  
 

And wtf Canada.  The Canadian girls both won but none of the Canadian guys won.  All 7 of them...  :/  And they were all favorites too.  

Anyway here are the results...

Dricus du Plessis def Sean Strickland SD
Raquel Pennington def Mayra Bueno Silva UD
Neil Magny def Mike Malott   TKO R3
Chris Curtis def Marc-Andre Barriault SD
Movsar Evloev def Arnold Allen UD
Garrett Armfield def Brad Katona   UD
Sean Woodson def Charles Jourdain SD
Ramon Taveras def Serhiy Sidey Decision SD
Gillian Robertson def Polyana Viana TKO R2
Sam Patterson def Yohan Lainesse Sub R1
Jasmine Jasudavicius def Priscila Cachoeira Sub R3
Jimmy Flick def Malcolm Gordon Sub R2

Here's the post fight press conference.

UFC 297:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2G1M4M4rQ

It was a decent event overall.  Can't complain.

What a fight! Pretty much what everyone was expecting, except Du Plessis didn't gas out in the championship rounds. He looked tired as hell from round 2 but kept going anyway. It looked like Sean didn't press the gas pedal soon enough and let himself lose rounds, especially round 3, which turned out to be a deciding one. Maybe he should've gone for a few takedowns himself.
As always, whenever there's a split decision, people are crying that Strickland got robbed etc, but I don't see it this way. I was rooting for Sean but Dricus was more dominating was causing more damage.

Full scorecard:

Congrats! That's 3 out of 3 wins! Well done. Fairly good fights and DDP vs Strickland was very very close. I think Strickland started off really well and overwhelmingly won the first round but Strickland turned it around and won 3 straight after that. Cut Strickland open in the 2nd was crucial to get some positive reinforcement and keep going. Both men had amazing cardio, especially DDP who kept going for all 5 rounds while Strickland slowed down in the middle rounds. Take-downs were pretty crucial too. Strickland seemed like he just had 1 game plan in mind, and when that wasn't effective enough, he just kept doing the same thing. Mallot vs Magny was great as well, Somehow Magny turned it around after being battered for 2 straight rounds and won it via TKO. Same with Patterson, who was getting battered but grappled his way to a win.

At the Press Conference, There wasn't much trash talk for Sean Strickland maybe because the ticket and PPV sales have reached what they expected just like Dana White said, but for sure it will be a great fight right now it is a close odds for these two fighters and I also am still picking who to pick yet, because each style can surely go on their way, but after seeing that press conference Dricus Du Plessis looks serious it could be a seriousness that he can not defeat Strickland or a seriousness that he has a plan in defeating Strickland this is the way I see things, but right now here is my pick for the UFC 297,

Sean Strickland (1.95) VS Dricus Du Plessis (1.98)


Getting into this fight Sean Strickland's defense is a sure massive threat for Dricus Du Plessis the question is can Dricus penetrate it, for sure Du Plessis has the power in his striking so this is what Strickland should be careful with but if he can negate that using Philly Shell defense he is safe but as Dricus is not all about striking as he has grappling that is deadlier than stand-up fight for sure even though Strickland has said in the press conference that they will come at each other in a standing match Dricus Du Plessis for sure would soon realize that he truly needed to take the fight in the ground and because of that wrestling advantage my pick is Dricus Du Plessis,

Raquel Pennington (2.45) VS Mayra Bueno Silva (1.63)


For this fight, Mayra Bueno Silva can finish the fight on the ground while he doesn't have great boxing it doesn't matter because he got great takedown and grappling and even clinched that knee that he can try against Pennington, while Raquel Pennington, is definitely a beast in her own right and just like she had said she is long in the business and have fought well-known fighter than Bueno Silva ever did, Ketlen Vieira, Aspen Ladd, Macy Chiasson, Miesha Tate, Amanda Nunes, and even Holly Holm her level of stand-up was superb, and for sure Raquel Pennington has more experience, also my pick is Raquel Pennington,

Chris Curtis (1.56) VS Marc-André Barriault (2.65)


In this fight, I like Chris Curtis and how his Striking can progress with the fight for Marc-André Barriault he likes to break guys and pressure them in the standing, but I think he can not break Chris Curtis the fundamental with Curtis's boxing is superb while he also got great ground game, for sure I would like to believe that Andre Barriault can defeat Curtis because he was from a lost while Barriault was from 2 consecutive wins which is not the thing in the UFC, right now I am leaning towards Chris Curtis and my pick for sure is definitely Chris Curtis,

DDP completely lost moral and conscience. Stickland has a very sad past, he was mentally and physically abused, he was under huge stress. Yes, I know that UFC fighters say many offensive things against each other but there are lines and limits. It is 100% immoral to touch a thing that was a part of childhood trauma and abuse because there are kids who experience the same and this kind of sentence means a huge disrespect and mocking towards those kids who suffer every day in their families because of abuse from parents.

Does not matter what Strickland has said, but what matters he isnt fake. He speaks what he thinks. He isnt like Covington for example, who has said bad about Edwards father, but a fighr said he did not mean that and it is just for the show. I dont like people who first said bad first and quickly appologize later. Like there was nothing. Just FU and then quickly Sorry. Strickland has said something like “lets make a good fighr bro”. Sure he wasnt saying bad thinks or tried to get into a head.

Here's the last couple if vids for Embedded.  I haven't watched it yet but I will as soon as I finish this post.  I'm curious what Strickland said to DDP during the face off.  Strickland is weird during face offs as he doesn't like to act all tough.  He said once before that he doesn't want to go to a place in his head where he gets obsessed with his opponent.  

But yeah, I'm back and forth with the main event.  I think Strickland will style on DDP.  I watched both Till and Whittaker matches vs DDP.  DDP wasn't really dominating in both matches but he's strong.  So yeah...  Dunno.  Lol.

UFC 297:  Embedded Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8qz_UVusA

UFC 297:  Embedded Episode 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=virYgBbiSog

Here are the highlights of the weigh ins and face offs.  Enjoy.

UFC 297:  Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMKDnfWiRt4

UFC 297:  Weigh Face Offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ipEXK1tHQA

Last call for jeremypwr's Multi Master.

UFC 297:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-297-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5481679

It's kind of psychological for Izzy when he is facing Alex Pereira but he will never accept such things, we all know Adesanya doesn't say anything if he is afraid of something, apparently, it was triggered from the past and for sure getting the belt was his motivation from that time that is why he defeated Alex Pereira but that thing that he did against Pereira he can not do it again the 2nd time against him it is too obvious now, and with his fight against Sean Strickland he is trying to use the Possum move but Strickland has known what he is trying to do and it is not going to happen, because Strickland was aware of it, when this happens Strickland back away and goes in position with his defense and waited for Adesanya that is why the fight ended with a decision because Strickland didn't aggressively go into Adesanya,

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My bet and prediction for UFC 297

Sean Strickland VS Dricus Du Plessis

Stake odds for this fight are 1.95 for Strickland and 1.98 for Du Plessis, actually, I really hate Sean Strickland but seeing his defense I surely notice the way he did it, and for sure Sparring with Alex Pereira and the different kinds of strikers he has enhanced his Philly shell defense while Dricus Du Plessis is kind of clunky with his striking for sure Strickland has more superior boxing while Dricus has power in his punches for sure while is grappling is exceptional in this fight but for sure Strickland would be ready with his takedown defense, and from that fight against Adesanya all Strickland did was sparring just to enhanced his defense and because of that I remembered the quote of Bruce Lee, “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” and so my pick is Sean Strickland.

Neil Magny VS Mike Malott

Stake odds for this fight are 4.10 for Magny and 1.29 for Malott, in this fight this is a real step up for Mike Malott while for Neil Magny this is a real step down, and if he lost again against Malott his record will likely be a pattern of a zebra, but a younger Malott means he is still improving and Neil Magny is a great gatekeeper for this division, but he must prove that he can also a threat for the new fighters, for sure Magny has the range advantage, but Mike Malott can become explosive and has a good grappling going into the fight so my pick for this fight is Mike Malott.

Arnold Allen VS Movsar Evloev

The stake odds for this fight are 2.70 for Allen and 1.54 for Evloev, for sure Arnold Allen is a great fighter and a great guy but he has never fought a grappler as good as Movsar Evloev, for sure Allen has great striking but you can not say for sure because Movsar Evloev also have that standing in him, he fought against Dan Ige, and Diego Lopes, for sure he got great names under him and he is still a improving fighter and once trained with Khabib Nurmagomedov, and I think of Advise that Khabib have told him is to accept the fight that the UFC have offered him, even if that fight is a unranked fighter because inactivity is Illadvised so my pick for this fight is surely Movsar Evloev.