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Quote from: tokeweed on June 01, 2019, 06:48:31 AM

Gus vs Smith this weekend guys. It's not really much of an event but it'll do, I guess... Til the bigger ones come.

Enjoy the vids.

UFC FN 153: Inside the Octagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WyKOBBUdl4

UFC FN 153: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAER3NTZvm4

I was too late to bet for the UFC 153 last weekend because of certain things that have suddenly popup, But anyway I have seen the highlights and I could see the focus on Anthony Smith's Face and his accuracy with his strike was there, Even though Alexander Gustafsson had made the first submission against him he already recover from it and at the next round when Gustafsson tried another submission move on Smith he retaliated and counter the submission with another submission and that is how I think why Anthony Smith is so focused in this fight.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 02, 2019, 09:48:28 AM

^ Yup. Some men accept it earlier than others. Gus prolly has zero motivation to train right now too. But who knows... He'll prolly be back and be like BJ Penn. Lol. Grin

Yes, I don't know what will motivates him to make a comeback since he admitted that he can't rise to the occasion as he always fell short specially when facing champions. Unless Dana or other organizations offer him good paycheck for a comeback fight. He was close though to being a champ specially the beating he gave Jon Bones during their first fight. It was really close that some says he really won that fight.

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^ Yup. Some men accept it earlier than others. Gus prolly has zero motivation to train right now too. But who knows... He'll prolly be back and be like BJ Penn. Lol. Grin

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Gus is already done. After suffering a devastating lost to Anthony Smith at UFC Stockholm.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/6/1/18648828/alexander-gustafsson-confirms-retirement-ufc-stockholm

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“I feel like I don’t do this for money or because of anything else,” Gustafsson said. “I do this because I want to be the best and beat the best and if I can’t do that then it is what it is. I lost to Jon and that was the third title fight and I felt like because I got a little bit of an injury in that fight and I didn’t get to show my capacity. So I had some hope in me still and I felt this Anthony Smith fight would be a great comeback and start climbing again. But now I lose to Anthony too. It feels like I don’t have it in me anymore. It’s like a confirmation to myself because I lost my three title fights.”

At least he admitted that he doesn't have it. Instead of fighting like BJ Penn or Anderson Silva who doesn't want to admit that they are no longer the same fighter and can't pull the trigger anymore.

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Gus vs Smith this weekend guys. It's not really much of an event but it'll do, I guess... Til the bigger ones come.

Enjoy the vids.

UFC FN 153: Inside the Octagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WyKOBBUdl4

UFC FN 153: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAER3NTZvm4

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Quote from: cabron on May 18, 2019, 10:37:52 AM

Didn't saw the fight. Not surprising judging by the experience of Andrade.
edited: Watched Namajunas vs Andrade on youtube, it really looked very mismatche

On the feet Andrade was finding it hard to land anything substantial and the mismatch was on the strength factor and Rose was dominating her on the feet and the face of Andrade was the proof of that but the slam ended everything, i really would like to see a rematch between the two and i am sure Rose will have a game plan to avoid getting close this time around and will dismatle her through her superior striking.

Quote from: cabron on May 18, 2019, 10:37:52 AM

Next fight would be Alexander Gustafsson vs Anthony Smith. Gustaf has the less experience but has better records of Smith. I once saw his fight with Jon Jones where he almost won. I'm sure Jones is a lot technical than Smith. I think he can handle this Smith unless its going to be in the ground fight.

The first Jon Jones fight was a close encounter and we all know Jones was a party animal and never took it that seriously and we saw that in the second fight where he finished easily, the fight between Gustafsson and Smith is an important one as the winner will get closer to another title shot and a loss will pull them back by a long distant to reach that title shot again.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 19, 2019, 09:32:18 AM

Here are UFC FN 152's results. No idea why the sports betting sites opened the lines with Kevin Lee as the favorite. It was such an obvious bet for RDA at first glance.

Dos Anjos has beaten many good fighters in the past and he was my favorite too. I wasn't surprised he beat a younger and more touted fighter.

Oliveira impressed me as well with an easy win. He's an all around fighter with great jiu jitsu technique.

I enjoyed Krantz' fight too. Even though he lost against a calmer, more experienced fighter, he showed good spirit and I understand why Dana White picked him to come in the UFC.

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Here are UFC FN 152's results. No idea why the sports betting sites opened the lines with Kevin Lee as the favorite. It was such an obvious bet for RDA at first glance.

Can't wait for Ferguson vs Cerrone at 238...

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 18, 2019, 08:09:10 AM

Info updated: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50894402

Not much hype on this weekend's event but whatever. If you guys got in on RDA at 2.10 or more, good bet. At least you got in vig free. Grin

The line is 1.91ish for RDA now.

UFC FN 152: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0MwX4a16_0

UFC FN 152: Weigh In Face Offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNQ_8IkgZ_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l51I7sRk5gE

Both men have their ups and downs and both are still cooping up from the losses that they have right now, For Lee that recently loss to Al Iaquinta and apparently Dos Anjos that are cooping up from his two consecutive losses to Covington and Usman, Well I can say that this fight will be unpredictable for me even if Dos Anjos Does have the most number of experience in the Octagon I can not say that he can go home the winner because Kevin Lee has the body build and strength in giving Dos Anjos a hard time, especially when Lee had the upper hand in reach and most younger than Dos Anjos, That is why I am having a hard time picking my bet, But I guess out of intuition maybe Kevin Lee can triumph against Dos Anjos.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 15, 2019, 02:25:09 PM

Quote from: cabron on May 15, 2019, 09:52:41 AM

Namajunas looks like a very cute flower, doesn't really look like a fighter on the outside. Hope she wins though.

Looks like you were in a comma for a while, the fight is over last week and the cute flower lost the belt because she got slammed on her head while attempting a submission, until that moment she was in full flow and winning the fight easily, i really expect a rematch and then hopefully you can have your prediction at the time Tongue

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Didn't saw the fight. Not surprising judging by the experience of Andrade.

Next fight would be Alexander Gustafsson vs Anthony Smith. Gustaf has the less experience but has better records of Smith. I once saw his fight with Jon Jones where he almost won. I'm sure Jones is a lot technical than Smith. I think he can handle this Smith unless its going to be in the ground fight.

edited: Watched Namajunas vs Andrade on youtube, it really looked very mismatche

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Info updated: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50894402

Not much hype on this weekend's event but whatever. If you guys got in on RDA at 2.10 or more, good bet. At least you got in vig free. Grin

The line is 1.91ish for RDA now.

UFC FN 152: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0MwX4a16_0

UFC FN 152: Weigh In Face Offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNQ_8IkgZ_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l51I7sRk5gE

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Quote from: cabron on May 15, 2019, 09:52:41 AM

Namajunas looks like a very cute flower, doesn't really look like a fighter on the outside. Hope she wins though.

Looks like you were in a comma for a while, the fight is over last week and the cute flower lost the belt because she got slammed on her head while attempting a submission, until that moment she was in full flow and winning the fight easily, i really expect a rematch and then hopefully you can have your prediction at the time Tongue

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Quote from: kenzawak on May 15, 2019, 08:07:11 AM

Also pretty surprised at the Aldo's defeat.

Yes that was a real bummer and he was outpointed by the technical striking of Alexander Volkanovski and i was watching Volkanovski fight for the first time and he was really good and his range of attacks were good and it was a rare off day for Aldo.

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Anyone has an update on Silva's knee injury ? Career ending or not ?

I do not think so he will retire even with his injuries.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on May 15, 2019, 08:21:18 AM

Quote from: kenzawak on May 15, 2019, 08:07:11 AM

Well we didn't really see anything in the Anderson Silva so I don't think it's fair to say that this fight shows he needs to retire. Of course, he's not the same he used to be but he got injured, nothing else. Who knows what would have happened if he didn't get kicked in the knee ?
Btw what a stupid reaction from the crowd booing Cannonier who showed some class there.

I'm more disappointed by BJ Penn. There was only a 3 year difference with Guida but it seemed much more. Guida is like the energizer, he keeps going but Penn seemed washed up.

Also pretty surprised at the Aldo's defeat.

Anyone has an update on Silva's knee injury ? Career ending or not ?

Like you, I want to see Silva retire because he is not that good like he was in his prime. Though he still has those tricks in his fights but i am not entertained on it. I guess his knee injury should be the turning point of his career though.

It was on his time when a match usually end up someone is knockout and not win via unanimous decision. I miss the fights where the usual big guys like the nogueira brothers are knocking out. Today you can just see athletes that always watchout for strategy that will not entertain fans anymore.

Namajunas looks like a very cute flower, doesn't really look like a fighter on the outside. Hope she wins though.

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Quote from: kenzawak on May 15, 2019, 08:07:11 AM

Well we didn't really see anything in the Anderson Silva so I don't think it's fair to say that this fight shows he needs to retire. Of course, he's not the same he used to be but he got injured, nothing else. Who knows what would have happened if he didn't get kicked in the knee ?
Btw what a stupid reaction from the crowd booing Cannonier who showed some class there.

I'm more disappointed by BJ Penn. There was only a 3 year difference with Guida but it seemed much more. Guida is like the energizer, he keeps going but Penn seemed washed up.

Also pretty surprised at the Aldo's defeat.

Anyone has an update on Silva's knee injury ? Career ending or not ?

Like you, I want to see Silva retire because he is not that good like he was in his prime. Though he still has those tricks in his fights but i am not entertained on it. I guess his knee injury should be the turning point of his career though.

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Rafael Dos Anjos vs Kevin Lee this weekend guys. It should be good as both fighters are looking to redeem themselves due to some rocky periods in their careers.

I'd expect Dos Anjos to win (Lee's line is fading). I mean Lee has all the tools to be great but dunno... There's something lacking. He lost to Iaquinta ffs.

Here's a vid of Dos Anjos.

UFC Rochester Free Fight: Don Anjos vs Henderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzCeHLjK0YQ

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Well we didn't really see anything in the Anderson Silva fight so I don't think it's fair to say that it shows he needs to retire. Of course, he's not the same he used to be but he got injured, nothing else. Who knows what would have happened if he didn't get kicked in the knee ?
Btw what a stupid reaction from the crowd booing Cannonier who showed some class there.

I'm more disappointed by BJ Penn. There was only a 3 year difference with Guida but it seemed much more. Guida is like the energizer, he keeps going but Penn seemed washed up.

Also pretty surprised at the Aldo's defeat.

Anyone has an update on Silva's knee injury ? Career ending or not ?

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 12, 2019, 02:09:01 PM

And against Cannonier and Silva, I am pretty sure about this because I am seeing Silva that he really needs to retire and needs rest because he doesn't have the quality back then in his prime, Well that is just my opinion, I can be wrong with it but that is what I am seeing.

Yes, he was already past his prime, and the more he fights, the more he got injured. His body is not holding now, maybe because of the wear and tear from the game. We don't know how many fights left in his contract but I guess it's really time to quit.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 12, 2019, 02:09:01 PM

Rose Namajunas was ready for this fight, The combination of punches and back out and all of that defensive stance she did in the fight was a technique for Andrade We can see that Namajunas studied Andrade for this fight, But Andrade had caught Namajunas and pushes her to the cage, Then after a while the slam was purposely was the last resort of Andrade to really win this

She could slam her because Andrade is really strong for the division and i am not sure how she is cutting the weight and there is no doubt that Namajunas is a good striker but the power difference is what i felt and predicted Andrade to win and the Brazilian crowds are a different breed than the rest of the countries, they are passionate about the national fighters and curse to death the opponents and if you are facing in Brazil for the first time, it is a big task in itself.

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And against Cannonier and Silva, I am pretty sure about this because I am seeing Silva that he really needs to retire and needs rest because he doesn't have the quality back then in his prime, Well that is just my opinion, I can be wrong with it but that is what I am seeing.

It is time for Silva to retire, the level of competition in UFC is really high and he might not have the reflex and health condition to face top contenders, he might shine with other promotions if he is really looking for competition alone and not money.

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Rose Namajunas was ready for this fight, The combination of punches and back out and all of that defensive stance she did in the fight was a technique for Andrade We can see that Namajunas studied Andrade for this fight, But Andrade had caught Namajunas and pushes her to the cage, Then after a while the slam was purposely was the last resort of Andrade to really win this, But I am hoping for a rematch because Namajunas had so much potential and the skills in studying her opponent was likely to be her way and maybe next time she can be very ready against Andrade, Well I may have lost that match but I enjoyed it and hopeful for a rematch.

And against Cannonier and Silva, I am pretty sure about this because I am seeing Silva that he really needs to retire and needs rest because he doesn't have the quality back then in his prime, Well that is just my opinion, I can be wrong with it but that is what I am seeing.

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I missed the event completely but we now have a new champion in Jessica Andrade and it looked like she won it simply because of her brute strength and the way in which she slammed Rose Namajunas when she attempted a submission was brutal and Anderson Silva lost his fight due to injury and it was another sad way to go for a legendary fighter like Silva, he should retire from UFC, he might be able to show his skill set in other companies but not against top class fighters.

@sashi your predictions were spot on here, Anderson lost because of his leg injury and Jessica Andrade won because of her power Shocked

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