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September 16, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
#95
Bitcoin is mostly being used to transact funds abroad, its rarely being used as money Mechants counters. It is an attractive investment option due to its high volatile nature, it will not be surprising a big amount of money comes into Bitcoin and its value shoots beyond $20K. Bitcoin will more be used as an asset instead of regular currency in daily use I believe, people are considering as high return option on their investment.
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September 16, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
#94
I do not understand how this is a uncomfortable truth , this is more like common knowledge than something surprising. Yes, most of the volume is from speculation but I am not sure about their numbers. They use BitPay as reference but it doe snot mean that only this gateway is the only one ,also other dont use gateway at all. I think that darkweb percent could be close to truth but not the merchant number.
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September 16, 2019, 09:50:35 AM
#93
Over time, the situation should change and the number of transactions and traders will increase, perhaps the whole system will change. It has to happen.
For our years here in this forum and in cryptocurrency as well,we had already witness the increasingly and demand of this market so no doubt that we’re getting higher and bigger as time passes by

So transaction will increase and traders will progress in their strategies

Yeah it’s sometimes frustrating when we expect growth but fall is what we’ve got since this is part of the healthy market what’s important is we are not withdrawing our support and still continue to trust crypto
Yeah time is passing by and bitcoin has continue to attract more population and that has always been reflected on the price of bitcoin in the market, and 99% of us here are holding bitcoin for the profit in the future.
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September 16, 2019, 09:37:56 AM
#92
Over time, the situation should change and the number of transactions and traders will increase, perhaps the whole system will change. It has to happen.
For our years here in this forum and in cryptocurrency as well,we had already witness the increasingly and demand of this market so no doubt that we’re getting higher and bigger as time passes by

So transaction will increase and traders will progress in their strategies

Yeah it’s sometimes frustrating when we expect growth but fall is what we’ve got since this is part of the healthy market what’s important is we are not withdrawing our support and still continue to trust crypto
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Aurox
September 16, 2019, 08:55:47 AM
#91
This is not an uncomfortable truth but rather the truth itself. Bitcoin as of today is always been a subject to tremendous changes in terms of volatility. The reason is that there are big whales running the market and only a few compared to the worlds total population are engaging in bitcoin. If at least 10% of the worlds population are using and holding bitcoin then we will have a more stable price for bitcoin and the volatility will be reduced then we can start seeing bitcoin being used daily in the market as a form of payment. Also there is the issue on the slow transactions on bitcoin transfer and this is one big reason why people and merchant does not use bitcoin for purchases.
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September 16, 2019, 06:20:53 AM
#90
Bitcoin is a digital currency  not a physical currency. People like making use of bitcoin to store up their assets and to make more profit. For now I don't think bitcoin can get up to $20k before the end of this year
The word currency already sum it all, whether it is digital or physical, it is currency and a currency is meant to be means of making payment for something and not just asset as we are using it to be. It is because we are using it more for asset alone that bitcoin has still not developed more than it has now. For bitcoin system to be more effective, there is need for demand to always occur every minute, but keeping it as asset means the demand will just be like once in a whole when we have spare money to make investment which should never be.

If we are using it to make payment for many things that we are using, it will Ben be creating awareness for the coin and you see more people coming into the space of bitcoin to constantly be using it for their purchases.
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September 14, 2019, 05:45:29 AM
#89
The business of cryptocurrency is like gambling. Its unpredictable and unstable. You either lose or gain money. I always say that this business is risky hence you need to be careful especially about the coin you will want to invest. Study the market and know the coins well.

If you buy Bitcoin at a bargain price during a bear market and hold it will have positive dynamics and profit. You can play carefully and this is the right way to avoid risks.
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September 14, 2019, 05:10:06 AM
#88
Bitcoin is a digital currency  not a physical currency. People like making use of bitcoin to store up their assets and to make more profit. For now I don't think bitcoin can get up to $20k before the end of this year
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August 30, 2019, 06:32:14 PM
#87
LN isn't a solution to that. It's just one (currently very dominant) second layer, which we in the future will see compete with other second layers. I don't rule out to see a second layer gain more popularity at one point.

People often look at LN as being Bitcoin's path to scale, but you don't really scale anything aside from the second layer itself. Bitcoin's main-chain is still slow and expensive relatively speaking, that won't change any time soon.

SegWit on the other hand is an actual scaling implementation. It brought a 20-25% transaction throughput increase and some bug fixes. Better something than nothing at all I would say.
Exactly. Lightning is a very situational scaling solution: It only scales when e.g. two parties are often transferring money to each other. The final settlement is still done on the chain.

Looking forward to Schnorr signatures.
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August 30, 2019, 08:17:27 AM
#86
Or LN could be solution if we wanted it to became mainstream currency. Although LN is still very slow as far as adoption is concern.
LN isn't a solution to that. It's just one (currently very dominant) second layer, which we in the future will see compete with other second layers. I don't rule out to see a second layer gain more popularity at one point.

People often look at LN as being Bitcoin's path to scale, but you don't really scale anything aside from the second layer itself. Bitcoin's main-chain is still slow and expensive relatively speaking, that won't change any time soon.

SegWit on the other hand is an actual scaling implementation. It brought a 20-25% transaction throughput increase and some bug fixes. Better something than nothing at all I would say.
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August 30, 2019, 08:09:44 AM
#85
1. I expect most "use" come from payment processors, not actual merchants. It's a difference. And payment processors can bulk the transactions so you won't see a difference.
2. In the same way you hold waiting for the rise, many others do that. If nobody is spending, why expect better numbers?
3. News papers use big words for useless posts. If you read a bit more around you'll see that reality is never as bad as depicted by news.

Interesting.
Plus payment processors don't know what the bitcoins are used for. The implication of this is that people might be buying and selling amongst themselves in large number without chainalysis even knowing it. It possible that traders contact each other on social media, Telegram, Whatapp, etc to negotiate prices and then send the coins through the payment processors. But the payment processors don't know what the transactions are for.

Well, I guess this is close to the best way to use Bitcoin. But the little problem is that it is done via centralized intermediaries , which are the payment processors, instead of peer-to-peer or with decentralized intermediaries

So, no one actually knows the real number of Marchant transactions. It could be way higher than the figures we are constantly bombarded with.
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August 30, 2019, 05:50:17 AM
#84
The business of cryptocurrency is like gambling. Its unpredictable and unstable. You either lose or gain money. I always say that this business is risky hence you need to be careful especially about the coin you will want to invest. Study the market and know the coins well.
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August 28, 2019, 01:57:54 AM
#83
Many are hodling Bitcoin not necessarily using it as a means of settlement. This is because they are speculating significant price appreciation overtime which is very logical. Why should I spend $500 worth of BTC today when it could be worth way more in the nearest future.This further serves to strenghten the fact that Bitcoin is digital gold.
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August 27, 2019, 01:50:03 PM
#82
An investment in crypto and especially Bitcoin is treated as an investment and store of value more than being used in daily transactions.
It is true that Bitcoin and crypto currencies have not caught as much wind with the global audience but that does not make it a weak asset. The adoption rate for crypto currencies has not reached its peak yet so the government hired new agencies make impractical claims in order to serve the governments purpose.


That's normal because we are in the early stage, these smart people who are investing now are seeing the potential of bitcoin to become a mainstream currency in the future, so they position themselves early to own bitcoin now as they believe the demand will increase and the value will grow since bitcoin is limited in value.
I wouldn't consider that we are still in the early stage, bitcoin went for $.1-$1k already, so they have seen what bitcoin can be, a currency and store of value. Those who have been here have evolved as well, from simply experimenting to becoming one of the best asset so far because of its limited supply.

It's pretty different in fiat as bitcoin is a real example of a "supply and demand",  and one thing, volatility maybe a hindrance to become a mainstream currency, but I know there's a lot of solution to that including the stable coin, and maybe Libra if they will successfully launch.
Or LN could be solution if we wanted it to became mainstream currency. Although LN is still very slow as far as adoption is concern.
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August 25, 2019, 07:31:05 AM
#81
An investment in crypto and especially Bitcoin is treated as an investment and store of value more than being used in daily transactions.
It is true that Bitcoin and crypto currencies have not caught as much wind with the global audience but that does not make it a weak asset. The adoption rate for crypto currencies has not reached its peak yet so the government hired new agencies make impractical claims in order to serve the governments purpose.


That's normal because we are in the early stage, these smart people who are investing now are seeing the potential of bitcoin to become a mainstream currency in the future, so they position themselves early to own bitcoin now as they believe the demand will increase and the value will grow since bitcoin is limited in value.

It's pretty different in fiat as bitcoin is a real example of a "supply and demand",  and one thing, volatility maybe a hindrance to become a mainstream currency, but I know there's a lot of solution to that including the stable coin, and maybe Libra if they will successfully launch.
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August 24, 2019, 10:20:20 PM
#80
An investment in crypto and especially Bitcoin is treated as an investment and store of value more than being used in daily transactions.
It is true that Bitcoin and crypto currencies have not caught as much wind with the global audience but that does not make it a weak asset. The adoption rate for crypto currencies has not reached its peak yet so the government hired new agencies make impractical claims in order to serve the governments purpose.
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August 21, 2019, 06:09:56 PM
#79
Among the crypto investors, majority of them treat it primarily as an asset and secondarily as a currency due to the monetary opportunities available which is something that will be reversed only through higher adoption rates which in turn requires low TX fees, faster payment speeds etc.
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That is truly correct some of the bitcoin ethusiasm they treat bitcoin or crypto as an asset investment, they treat bitcoin more than the gold. That's why most of the hodler's not use it to pay bitcoin or crypto as payment because they know the importance of that holding for long term because possible of profits they can earn if the price goes into the moon.
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August 19, 2019, 11:48:06 AM
#78
I believe that if it were easier to spend crypto today, more people would be doing it. A bitcoin owner who wants to spend their crypto today must look for a merchant who accepts bitcoin or purchase a gift card equivalent to buy something.
For now, majority of us are still more of holders because we believe that we could get more increase on what we have in future when bitcoin starts to increase in price, so not many people are even willing to spend their bitcoin for now but not that they don’t know how to, even if we have so many merchants right now that is willing to accept bitcoin as payment, many people would still make them have a very low patronage because they would not want to part away with what they have.

But, one thing I believe is that in future, merchants accepting cryptocurrency will be much, and bitcoin will get to that stage where I can no longer increase further, and then people will learn to be using their accumulated bitcoin already to start purchasing things from these merchants.
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August 17, 2019, 11:01:22 PM
#77
I believe that if it were easier to spend crypto today, more people would be doing it. A bitcoin owner who wants to spend their crypto today must look for a merchant who accepts bitcoin or purchase a gift card equivalent to buy something.


I think bitcoin owner already found a merchant which accept bitcoin for the transaction because I already help my friend who wants to buy a product from an online store. I search for him the online store, and after I found the store, I gave to him, and let him buy the product and finish the transaction.

So if there is a more online store which can accept bitcoin, then I guess that the adoption by the internet will grow because many people now access the internet with ease. They can buy and sell by online, and people can find the online store which supports payment with cryptocurrency.
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August 17, 2019, 09:49:17 PM
#76

Yes it is  . cryptos are now easier to use today , i mean you can now possibly use it widely because many people and store owners are now using/accepting it but of course there will be a group of people that prefer to not spend thier btc because they think its not worth it or they think its hassel or expnsive when it comes to fees   .


With more adoptions that happened using this payment process, you can find more online sites who accepted this payment options though it's not widely big enough but you can do consider those available businesses who catered crypto payments, but in the other hands, more investors prefers to hold and keep their assets treating crypto as tokens for investment, as they are aware of fees that needed to be deducted once you deal with crypto transactions some might still prefer to use fiat services to limits using their assets from crypto.
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