Topic: The unfortunate event that is Quarantine. - page 8. (Read 1583 times)

The problem of unemployment due to Kovid is really very acute but .. There is another problem that is not often talked about. What will happen to me if a heart attack comes to me? Will the clinic accept me? Will they give me the necessary help in sufficient quantities or will they advise me to take aspirin and send it home? There are people who have serious diagnoses and they were no longer able to receive treatment on time due to quarantine. To hell with all of it! Let everything go as it goes. Sooner or later we will receive a vaccine and then it will be possible to rely on something.

First its not kovid but Covid, and the problem is not acute because the WHO declared it as a pandemic and its effect is global that is why we have a global crisis right now, if you are reading and watching news about this current situation, you'll not be happy with what is happening with our economy right now.

This is the best solution but yet, it depends on the government on how they will provide for those in needs during this quarantine that people are unable to go to their work to have some funds. There are a lot of people who are suffering because of this pandemic that make them experience scarcity in foods and resources.

Hopefully, the government should make a proper plan and actions in order for the people to lessen their suffering and starving. Here in our community, the government is responsive and they do what they can just to serve its people. Now, is the 3rd wave of giving relief goods to those people in our community and as far as I know, the budget that are allocated for that came from the taxes that the people paid.

It is really good that we have that kind of government where they are transparent and responsible about their position in the community. I know that we're all struggling during this quarantine but this is just temporary and we will all overcome this hardships that we are facing right now.

I know that our fellow scientist will develop and discover the vaccine as soon as possible, we just need to be patient and support them so that they will not lose help as well as the people in the community who are nearly giving up. Also let's cheer those infected and let them know that they will be healed and recovered as soon as possible.

If quarantine is not the solution,then what is the solution?There's no vaccine for the virus and there's no remedy.The lockdowns are slowly getting removed and the quarantine won't be a thing in the next few months.I think that you are over-dramatizing with the "coronavirus won't kill us,but the economic situation will". Unemployed people will get some government support,so they won't die due to starvation and poverty.
You are whining about the quarantine,but you urge us to stay at home?There's a contradiction here.
What are you trying to say?

Probably yes, quarantine isn't the best solution instead of the vaccine and until we don't have one yet what we should do to lessen the numbers of infected is to stay at home and that is the immediate response that our governments thought off. Ain't in favor of the quarantine as well because I can see a lot of people are suffering from this quarantine but to be fair to our governments they are also suffering from this like running out of funds to provide the necessities of the affected communities through ca continuous distribution of relief goods in fact some governments tends to borrow money in the world bank just to support their citizens.

However, we can also see that those people are crying out loud because they lose their jobs but you will still see some of them doing inappropriate things like gambling in a hidden area, drinking liquors, etc. and yet they keep on blaming or asking for the government for their necessities. It'll always hard if we're just going to look on the one side of a thing we must also look on the thing in all aspects so we can see it in a clear and fair description like what we are seeing right now about this quarantine.

If we will ask our government to remove the quarantine or the lockdown just for us to work and not die of starvation then it may only worsen the situation on this pandemic, it will be better if we first follow the authorities for they have all the information and knowledge about what is really going on about the pandemic.

I do not really think that results of economical crisis could be worse than the pandemic itself. We have about 300k people dead right now because of corona, over 300k! that is the biggest death number in long time for anything like this, yet for some reason people still undervalue it.

One thing is for sure that people will have a financial trouble, and I am sure many people die because of starvation or stuff like that which will probably happen but at the same time you can't just say that corona was something small neither, we can't decide who died because of financial issues, there was something like that going on in the world way before the pandemic but nobody really cared, look at Yemen and Venezuela, in 2019 they were dying because of financial issues but nobody really cared, this global pandemic is a lot more global than national so I think it has a bigger reach and is totally worse.

Don't say that because for sure each and every government only aim for the safety of its countrymen amidst the pandemic despite of any status you had. Whether ypu are rich or poor, all lives matter. Well, I am not on your situation so I respect your opinion tho. My advice for you is to try to make your insight broader, I'm sure you'll see the good in everything .
Hmm I think it can shorten the time for making it if the pioneer of such vaccine will set aside business first. You know, share the "secret recipe" on all pharmaceutical companies across the globe (but I think this seems impossible).

Quarantine wasn't the solution? Could you propose an alternative for it? Don't bother answering social distancing and wearing face masks, that's just a stupid answer. With the sheer amount of people that live in a single city, you wouldn't be able to see a proper social distancing event out there. The quarantine IS the solution, but it isn't entirely it. Proper government actions, as well as mass testing, are the answers. Immediately acting and identifying those who were infected, those who could be infected, and those who would be infected are immediate answers that the government must move into so that they could quarantine the virus to only those under it already.

It's a pandemic, not some kind of event or what, temporary loss of jobs is absolutely normal, but I ain't saying it's okay. We have no choice at that front tbh. Additionally, I don't understand how hygiene could fix the said economic crisis by yours, but if it was against the virus, then naturally, I doubt anyone is neglecting their hygiene after all.

It's better than being dead.
We value life and nothing is more important than that.

What is the use of having a government or economy if there is no one living in it?
We can still get up from all this pandemic and economic fall if there is still life.

It may well be that quarantine in the form that governments in their countries are introducing today is not effective enough to save people and not kill the economy. by and large, isolation is the best way to avoid a large spread of the virus. But in order to introduce such precautions while saving a person and the country's economy, you need to have as much information as possible about the virus and about those people who are at risk. If it would be possible to identify such people who are most likely to be predisposed to a severe form of illness and death, then based on this, restrictions can be introduced for people selectively. How many people can continue to work, while using all the precautions, including personal protective equipment. But I read so much information about the virus, and not a single doctor, professor or scientist gave a concrete answer, which of the people is at risk. The only thing we know To date, the person who has some kind of pathology or severe forms of the disease, when infected with a coronavirus, can die from his own diseases, and not from a coronavirus. coronavirus only complicates the situation, but is not a disease from which they die.

There is nothing we can do it. They can't work on their home so they have no choice but to stay on their home so that they will not be a burden to their government.
This is their problem already as they don't have any emergency funds. I hope that this will be a lesson for those who are experiencing difficulties right now.

If you are the President of the country, would you suggest a solution to prevent further spread of the virus. The problem with most people is that they are only criticizing what the government is doing instead of supporting it. You are one of them, you are just criticizing and yet you can't come up with your own solution.

Some of the countries in the world lifted up the quarantine already but not for some places who have many COVID19 cases. The virus will not kill us if we know how to follow the order of the authority.
Lets stay on our home, follow the guidelines that our government has released. The vaccine is coming already in a few months time.

There are many people who are now suffering from this pandemic virus, both infected and non-infected, because of this virus ou government implement community quarantine in different areas to avoid the risk of spreading the virus that is why most of the people now are jobless and they don't know where to get money anymore.

Even though we are at home, there are still some ways for us to earn money, there are many institutions that help us to support our lives during quarantine, there is DSWD, 4'Ps, DOLE, and many other institutions. There are also some people who are hoping for other people by giving relief goods.

But instead of waiting for the reliefs, let us all do some action to make money, there are some online jobs that e can apply to earn money.

All we can do now is just to pray that this pandemic will be over soon.

We are here already, it's not a dream, it's happening and we have to accept and fight it.
We will survive, just believe, if we can't make money anymore, we have the government to support us as that is their job now.

A lot of business closes at the moment, so it's expected that people will loss their job, but like I said, we will never give up.

Government are responsible for the safety and sustainability of its citizen as this pandemic is continuously on going. It is really hard to see our fellow citizen to experience and suffer especially those people who are poor enough to survive this quarantine. Not all of us can buy goods, can have stable work, and home for the safety and prevention of this pandemic. Some of us are just living in the streets, the beggar, the unfortunate, hopefully  the government do something about this so that the number of people who are suffering could be lessen.

Famine and starving will kill us so the government should do what they should do to serve its people. The community needs their help and they are accountable about the rights of the people, there are a lot of budget that are allocated for this pandemic although there is no precise plan about this. We're all not prepared for this pandemic so we should deal with this until everything goes back to normal.

recent antibody studies seem to support that view. take spain for example: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/16/21259492/covid-antibodies-spain-serology-study-coronavirus-immunity

27,563 deaths but only 5% of the population has been infected. at 100% infection, you would then expect ~1.2% of the population (~560k) to die. and i think reasonable people will agree that overwhelming the health care system in that scenario would greatly worsen the death toll, perhaps exponentially so.

sadly we are nowhere near herd immunity. the outbreak we saw is tiny compared to how bad it could have gotten unchecked---or how bad it could still get in a second wave. going forward, quarantines are still the only realistic solution, and i expect we will continue seeing them implemented and relaxed repeatedly for months and probably years to come.

First of all, not every country has quarantined the same way (some countries didn't even quarantine at all). Therefore, we can't say that it wasn't done properly. Every country applied a different protocol. Second, you can't earn a living if you're dead, which is why quarantine is essential. Most countries don't have the health system to support multiple gravely ill people at the same time, which is where the quarantine comes in. No one says it's ideal but it's what you do when you're forced between amputating your hand so the whole body doesn't die. Mostly no one is enjoying this.

This is a worldwide crisis with multiple side effects. There are no magical solutions, just solutions that will help people face the future alive. This is about choosing the lesser of two evils and learning to live with that.

And this is the sad but reality that many of people in lower living will be in harm of this situation and  the years to come .

the economy will have to wait for long time to recover from this and that made us all concern because the effect in small business will have effect in bigger also means that is domino effect.

maybe by the end of this month lockdown and quarantine will be end but yet the true effect will start to happen.

That is true and now we are having situation that the consequences of quarantine and lockdown will be worse than the consequences of pandemic. Not in medical way, of course, but in.social and financial.
Not that nany business are brought at the edge of existing and so many people will be left unempliyed and poor but many will literary starve.
If this situation repeats in fall like some scientist say I'm not sure how this world will look like. So, yes, vaccine or cure are the only solution but I'm not sure how likely it is for this to happen soon.

yes lower class people because they are the ones that are poor and have nothing to eat now but rich people still have some stocks left but lower class people has a wrong reason.  they say covid will kill them and not the hunger but the truth is they will not die even if cant eat for along time while covid is too fatal and can kill you faster than a hunger  . plus governments are still providing relief operations so how can they say they dont have food to eat ? they just only want to continue thier lives normally  in other words

I remember the words that I often hear to people who belong to lower class. Due to this pandemic the businesses, establishment and company needs to close and stop operating causing many people to stop working. They say they wont die because of the virus, instead they will starve to death, the relief from the government is not enough to feed the people everyday. Good thing the situation here is slowly getting better, workers are now allowed to work because the number of new infected is decreasing which means its somehow under control though the virus is still existing. Hoping they will discover the vaccine so the virus will vanish.