Topic: The unfortunate event that is Quarantine. - page 9. (Read 1583 times)

Because this is depends on what company we are referring to,imagine a man power company will face this problem,then how can you apply a Homebase work when the job needs physical works?
meaning of "Well Off MEmbers"?if you are pointing about the big businesses again i will tell you it depends on the nature of company.
small jobs is not that degradable in this case,because we can at least be skilled to find other jobs maybe offers from the community or even make small business a this are ind emand now

The great economic divide in society is pretty much present during normal days as during pandemic days. But the chasm is greatly widened by the quarantine. It is a necessary measure nonetheless. It is basically implemented with health safety in mind, but not the economic aspect. There are, however, measures that would also address the economic repercussions of such drastic measure. Is it enough, though? No, I don't think so.

I can only speak of what I have directly observed, and somehow you are right. More than a third of the entire work force here in my country is under the informal economy which is terribly affected by the quarantine. Many of them lost their livelihood as most of them cannot shift to a work-from-home setup. And many of them have not received any assistance from the government.

In a way, my country has already bowed down to the economic pressure brought by this pandemic. We started to strictly implement our own version of lockdown when the confirmed infection was less than 100. A couple of months later, the confirmed infection has already climbed to at least 12,000. But despite that, we have started to ease the lockdown. We have now started to allow these workers to resume their livelihood activities. The economy cannot contain it any longer.

Now these people may not anymore face hunger as in the past weeks but they are facing health risks more than ever. The reality is that the poor can only choose between evils.

The number of people suffering from acute hunger is expected to double this year to 265 million, which is pretty horrific. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hunger-could-be-more-deadly-than-coronavirus-in-poorer-countries/2020/05/14/32fd3f9a-8bd3-11ea-80df-d24b35a568ae_story.html

In place like India and Africa, most workers are informal workers who live hand to mouth. Without a daily wage, many aren't eating:


For these people, going hungry from lack of income is a bigger danger than the corona virus.

Quarantine and lockdown are really needed to fight this pandemic while we are waiting for the cure and medicine.
What the government can do, is to support its constituents as much as possible and know the needs up to the lowest class of their society.
Right now, I am seeing a lot of private individuals reaching out and helping out other people that the government can't afford to help.
Hats off to those individuals who are trying to help others by spending their own money, you can see a lot of that in YT videos.
For those that are still waiting for their government's help, find other options how to earn money or how to get food for your family.

Wrong. Quarantine and lockdown were done properly. Definitely not a solution but at least it's working.

People will soon starve, who are these? Those who got unemployed? We are not talking about they are jobless for a year so at least they can keep up with the situation for at least half a year, I hope but there is no choice. Look at those beggars, they are jobless for many years prior to the pandemic virus but still can think of a way how to survive a day. I have known some people who are struggling financially right now and it's just 2 months since we put up on quarantine so how can they survive for the next months? Depending on the situation, still, the government is helping us plus and it's not totally zero business here so somehow people can think of a plan on how to make some financial source even how small it is.

Just trust the process and I know all countries in the world are doing the best to ease the spread of the virus.

Initially we do need to impose lock down. Should be long enough so that it does not start spreading rapidly. It was made to make sure it does not go beyond our control. Imagine what would have happened if lock down were not imposed. We would just see dead bodies everywhere. If you are trying to say that lock downs shouldn't be imposed because the economy will be destroyed, then you are wrong. No country would put economy before their people.
Though eventually lock downs rules will be bought to an ease. People will start learning to leave with the disease just like it had happened during previous pandemics.

I agree with you, quarantine isn't a deal that can solve this problem, a virus can't disappear itself and even if similar virus of corona may happen in future, society will have immune system against it. And this virus isn't that deadly after all, it's manipulation with statistics at some point. Some people think that 5-6 person dies in a particular European country while this number thousands daily.

It's easy to type #stayathome on Facebook for those people who have a lot of money or do job online, when their fridge is full, they think other's share the same situation and don't understand how hard life is for a lot of people. Virus may spread from one person to another but hunger - can't. So in overall rich people care about themselves, they say stay at home to take care of me but when they say it, they don't take care of you who needs job and salary to keep alive.

Millions of people were dying because of hunger in 21th century's economics. And imagine how this number grows because of the current situation in a lot of countries, but who publishes statistics of it in live like were doing on coronavirus? No one.
I'm very disaffected by the lies and the politics.

the quarantine won't last forever. it's already ending.

however, the outbreak and all the social distancing stuff could be with us for years and years. a second wave is expected in the fall or winter. the WHO's chief scientist even thinks it will take 4-5 years to get under control: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/14/coronavirus-who-warns-it-could-take-up-to-5-years-to-control-pandemic.html

that's a realistic timeline for a vaccine too.

with that in mind, i foresee a lengthy economic disruption and some very big changes to the economy too. less physical shopping and entertainment and limited capacity is gonna be really, really hard on the brick and mortar economy. e-commerce behemoths like amazon are gonna continue consolidating market share.

i don't know that we'll have march/april levels of disruption again, but in many ways the damage has been done. the overall long term outlook is pretty worrisome IMO. the fed and other economists are expecting years of slow growth which means unemployment is gonna stay very high.

Quarantine is the only reason why some of us survive this long though. You don't need the job to survive but the necessities like food, this I guess should the government first has to provide while we still are battling with how to control the virus and minimize the numbers of affected. The problem is that the government can't provide all these to everyone that is why people have to come out.

That they should focus right now is to find the vaccine. Spend millions for it.

Jobless people doesn't have enough money so how can we expect them to stay at home and maintain good hygiene, even governments are not helping them.

The global economy will take two or three years even if we find the vaccine for now but to be more worse how many years it will take to produce 7 billion vaccines?

So what do you propose instead? How would you do quarantine (and what is your qualification to decide it - are you a Ph.D. epidemiologist?)?

And you seem to contradict yourself here:



Also, no one will be starving to death, so stop creating panic. Western countries survived WWII and WWI as well as many economic crises like the Great Depression and there wasn't any mass starvation. It only happened in communist countries because of their stupid ideology that can't provide people even with basic things.

Sooner or later, countries would have to lift the quarantine in their places since the woes of their economy could no longer sustain the burdens of no profits in any direction. Some developing countries are already planning to lift the quarantine or at least ease it in the coming weeks. However, there should always be a consequence to such premature decisions. Expect a second wave of the virus plaguing most countries which lifted the lockdown (like South Korea) until the virus/disease is fully understood and what medication could be taken in order to combat it to prevent from developing further.

I notice from companies that implemented work from home policies is that they are related to technology somehow, this not includes heavy machineries. Very unfortunate for those people who relies on their job that is crowd dependent like working in stores as a cashier for non essential needs like in malls. Here in our country, there is a possibility that construction projects will be resume soon as our government pushes the economy not to decline so hard.

Actually we can't do nothing for them but to support by any means, it seems like government assistance is enough for now to survive their daily needs.

The virus does not attack the economy but the virus attacks humans and government efforts to prevent the spread of infection have made the economy devastated because people have to stay at home, lose their jobs, reduce their income, and so on. Staying at home is a protocol issued by the government to control infections and the government must also pay attention to the effect of this protocol on its citizens.

For developed countries, maybe government assistance will make citizens able to meet their daily needs and the same is done by developing countries and poor countries. But for developing countries and poor countries, the government must increase foreign debt to help the needs of people affected by the virus. Changes in the economic status of society have occurred during the pandemic, and it is very important that we must help each other to revive the economy by maintaining a healthy lifestyle and complying with applicable regulations and this is an important effort that must be done as a society to help the government repair the damaged economy.

I'm thinking of the same thought, we could be return to normal if we want to just wear a protective gears when going outside and the problem is solved but the thing is the number of covid-19 cases is still increasing, that is the only data that the government could rely on from now since WHO has not been instructing yet but to stay home. Once we get to handle the things easily, if we come to see a significant decrease in the cases then we might be back again to the normal, I mean the new normal. We can't deny that there are hardheaded people that keeps the number even higher  

Tougher times waits ahead as soon as lockdown been over. Postponed bills which come unpaid from the time lockdown been ordered, inconsiderate collector who rushes everything irregardless of someone's condition, and such is going to be very tough for underpaid employees who are totally relying with government's assisstance, and families who haven't got any savings to cover it up. But that's another reason what is working for, and as that happens time would take care of everything, either way. Being optimistic somewhat help for not being of any burden in addition with the problem who are yet to come. My apologies for too much drama.

Am just hoping for the best. It won't last any longer, I agree.

Some are lucky being in a Work from home situation, and others can't really do something to go back to work specially if they have no boss or company to rely on(small time jobs and self employed). I have watched news about construction workers begging in the streets, it has come to that point. I hope those workers are receiving help from the government, those people are the one who really needed the help of the authorities.

Aside from helping them, I hope they can be employed in any work that they can help during this pandemic too. For example, tricycle drivers who can't go back to work are employed as food delivery workers in a certain city in my country. Some tricycle drivers are employed packing relief goods. Any help that can make them less suffer will do. I just hope everyone who is suffering in this pandemic will receive the help they deserve. Hoping that it will end soon.

The word (quarantine) got me alittle confused. I guess I mistook it for isolation hence the confusion:


Well, it doesn't make sense to Quarantine/lockdown the whole population when we could safely go outside to work by practicing the recommended social distancing plus other safety measures.
Hopefully people don't turn this to a shameful class thing instead of working together to solve the problems. No one can survive alone in serious crisis unless GOD is on his/her side.
There should be other things to do in the crisis and safely earn a living.

I was considering maybe there is a chance that the whole world could turn a bit more online thanks to this situation? I have been saying a lot in the past 10 years that many jobs could be done at home and the productivity would even increase because you are not forcing people to work for 8 hours yet the road coming to work takes about 1 hours and going back home takes 1 more hour and there is 1 more hour for lunch and so forth, which means there is 10 hours on 7 hours of real work, you do not really do anything when you wake up until you go to work neither, so you go to work at 7 and go there at 8 but you wake up at 6 so you are spending another 1 hour there as well. All of this is useless.

Thanks to corona basically you are starting work, work for 4 hours, give a break, work another 4 hours and you are done, all other hours belong to you.

Dude, we're getting that advice and more every single minute on the news, and people are generally doing a pretty good job of keeping distance from one another, washing their hands, etc.--at least from what I've observed in my country.  I'm sure there are wide variations on how serious people are taking all of this depending on what country you're in.

This quarantine/outbreak/economic crisis isn't going to last forever, and I don't think it's going to last as long as many people seem to think it's going to.  There's going to be some economic damage done, but I'm oddly optimistic that most people are going to get back to work once they're not locked down anymore.  It's going to be tough times until that happens, but I don't think it's going to be that much longer.