The Unofficial HashProfit Thread - page 5.

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Quote from: Charlie11223 on December 31, 2014, 11:12:29 AM

I don't believe the forum itself has been advertising Ponzi sites like Hashprofit.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9257332

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We cannot hold the forum responsible for what some people post on it.
If we did then most forums on the internet would have to close or be heavily moderated/censored.

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 09:09:22 AM

Quote from: Charlie11223 on December 31, 2014, 09:02:42 AM

We can't persecute everyone who's ever promoted HashProfit (thinking it was legit)

Why not? I sure hope they try.
BTW, it can be taken a step further: prosecute this very forum:
http://rapsinews.com/news/20140211/270688354.html

maybe that would finally make theymos reconsider his idiotic forum policies.

I don't believe the forum itself has been advertising Ponzi sites like Hashprofit.
We cannot hold the forum responsible for what some people post on it.
If we did then most forums on the internet would have to close or be heavily moderated/censored.

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 09:09:22 AM

Quote from: Charlie11223 on December 31, 2014, 09:02:42 AM

We can't persecute everyone who's ever promoted HashProfit (thinking it was legit)

Why not? I sure hope they try.
BTW, it can be taken a step further: prosecute this very forum:
http://rapsinews.com/news/20140211/270688354.html

maybe that would finally make theymos reconsider his idiotic forum policies.

Care to explain?

P.S. Just read the news. A radio want to pay the fees? Shocked

No wonder if the forum is charged then. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Charlie11223 on December 31, 2014, 09:02:42 AM

We can't persecute everyone who's ever promoted HashProfit (thinking it was legit)

Why not? I sure hope they try.
BTW, it can be taken a step further: prosecute this very forum:
http://rapsinews.com/news/20140211/270688354.html

maybe that would finally make theymos reconsider his idiotic forum policies.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 08:50:02 AM

Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 08:22:03 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 07:35:25 AM

Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? Huh

Doesnt seem like conmaster222 would be anonymous enough.

Yes he isn't that anonymous but I asked about people behind HP and other HYIP/scams.

Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 08:22:03 AM

BTW, googling around, it seems promoting ponzi's is illegal in Russia too:

The bill also stipulates punishment for those who compel people to make a payment and join a pyramid scheme.

The Finance Ministry has also proposed amending the Administrative Offences Code to introduce administrative penalties for organizing pyramids, compelling people to make a payment or promoting these schemes.
http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20140924/272184843.html

Doesnt go as far as SEC regulations, but its nice to know even in Russia you could get in serious trouble for putting these ponzi banners in your signature.

I think in almost all countries promoting such things are illegal and may get severe punishments.

~~MZ~~

Then again I am sure most of us who invested got news of Hashprofit from friends or other people.
We can't persecute everyone who's ever promoted HashProfit (thinking it was legit)
With that being said, Coinmaster222 really should have known better considering his seniority in the field.

What's important is to find the people behind Hashprofit so that they won't pull this scam again in 6 months.
They are clearly very competent in the Bitcoin field and have probably been around for a while doing these sort of scams.

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 08:22:03 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 07:35:25 AM

Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? Huh

Doesnt seem like conmaster222 would be anonymous enough.

Yes he isn't that anonymous but I asked about people behind HP and other HYIP/scams.

Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 08:22:03 AM

BTW, googling around, it seems promoting ponzi's is illegal in Russia too:

The bill also stipulates punishment for those who compel people to make a payment and join a pyramid scheme.

The Finance Ministry has also proposed amending the Administrative Offences Code to introduce administrative penalties for organizing pyramids, compelling people to make a payment or promoting these schemes.
http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20140924/272184843.html

Doesnt go as far as SEC regulations, but its nice to know even in Russia you could get in serious trouble for putting these ponzi banners in your signature.

I think in almost all countries promoting such things are illegal and may get severe punishments.

~~MZ~~

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We really should be able to find the people behind Hashprofit though. Especially when we get lawyers and police involved. CoinMaster222 should be punished aswell though of course.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 07:35:25 AM

Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? Huh

Doesnt seem like conmaster222 would be anonymous enough.
BTW, googling around, it seems promoting ponzi's is illegal in Russia too:

The bill also stipulates punishment for those who compel people to make a payment and join a pyramid scheme.

The Finance Ministry has also proposed amending the Administrative Offences Code to introduce administrative penalties for organizing pyramids, compelling people to make a payment or promoting these schemes.
http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20140924/272184843.html

Doesnt go as far as SEC regulations, but its nice to know even in Russia you could get in serious trouble for putting these ponzi banners in your signature.

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 07:30:32 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 07:10:48 AM

He mis-understood Hashprofit.

It doesnt even matter if he did or not. At least in the US, its defined as "knowingly or recklessly" promoting or providing material support for security fraud. You can look it up for your own country, but its likely similar. There is no doubt what he did was at least reckless. Whether or not it was knowingly, Im pretty sure it was, but legally it doesnt even matter.

It interesting to note that under said SEC regulation, coinmaster could be considered liable to the same degree as the perpetrators, who may remain anonymous and/or out of reach. Something to keep in mind next time anyone wants to promote a ponzi.

Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? Huh

Quote from: jokerboy on December 31, 2014, 07:24:19 AM

I think we should wait until 5th of January. Everything will be clear.

That's the only hope for investors! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 07:10:48 AM

He mis-understood Hashprofit.

It doesnt even matter if he did or not. At least in the US, its defined as "knowingly or recklessly" promoting or providing material support for security fraud. You can look it up for your own country, but its likely similar. There is no doubt what he did was at least reckless. Whether or not it was knowingly, Im pretty sure it was, but legally it doesnt even matter.

It interesting to note that under said SEC regulation, coinmaster could be considered liable to the same degree as the perpetrators, who may remain anonymous and/or out of reach. Something to keep in mind next time anyone wants to promote a ponzi.

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I think we should wait until 5th of January. Everything will be clear.

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Quote from: Danz0r77 on December 31, 2014, 07:01:22 AM

Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 06:31:35 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 04:54:34 AM

I know coinmaster22 personally

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

IF this is him then it looks like he is from the UK
https://btcjam.com/users/63314

Yes. That's his. No harm done from his side except the advertisements that he believed would be good. Let me try to correct him.

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 06:31:35 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 04:54:34 AM

I know coinmaster22 personally

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

Nothing like that. He mis-understood Hashprofit. He has contacted their support and got good replies. He took PFC a bit seriously too.

About his personal things: I am really sorry! I can't give it without asking to him but he is from UK.

~~MZ~~

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Quote from: Puppet on December 31, 2014, 06:31:35 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 04:54:34 AM

I know coinmaster22 personally

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

IF this is him then it looks like he is from the UK
https://btcjam.com/users/63314

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on December 31, 2014, 04:54:34 AM

I know coinmaster22 personally

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

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Quote from: broadsword on December 31, 2014, 04:20:50 AM

coinmaster22 closed the hread because i stated facts. i said there were 779k coins on for sale on c-cex but he said tha was not possible as he said dev did not dump that much premine but it was clearly showing that number and many people can vouch that they were. its no fud.

whether he is working for hp or not it does look like a scam.

I know coinmaster22 personally and he ain't working for 'em. He just made official thread(after asking HP) because he found their Official thread was inactive.

Yes, it may be a scam. Lets just believe these words like we believed in their mining and wait for their devs come.

Quote from: hashprofit.com

Our service has undergone the most serious attack during the existence of the project. Due to the fact that most of the specialists of the company is on New Year's weekend, it was decided to secure the safety of users of funds and infrastructure protection service from breaking suspend the site before the first Monday in 2015 (January 5). On this day, all service specialists will return to their jobs and work of the service will continue as normal. Stay calm. Thank you for understanding.

~~MZ~~

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coinmaster22 closed the hread because i stated facts. i said there were 779k coins on for sale on c-cex but he said tha was not possible as he said dev did not dump that much premine but it was clearly showing that number and many people can vouch that they were. its no fud.

whether he is working for hp or not it does look like a scam.

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Again another official scam cloud mining site who scam us professionally.

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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody

Maybe gather all available information in this thread, like ip and crypto addresses, details of people that own the domain and so on.

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If these guys develop a smartPFC gateway to fiatworld they will become overnight heroes - Jan 2nd I want to buy my dogfood in pfc! that's the only way out for crypto.

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