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Topic: the usa is technically not a nation, its a geographic cooperation - page 2. (Read 212 times)

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americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.


Probably many people with disagree with you because USA has a feeling of a nation. I think this is mostly due to wars. If you are a nation and fight a against a common enemy, it will unite the people. First against the British, then WW1 and WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1&2, Afghanistan. With so many foreign threats, there should be a lot of unity. Unfortunately all of this is being lost in the last few years.
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USA is like the European Union.

EU has 28 states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia..

USA has 50 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware...

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Before a State in the USA became a State in the USA, it requested authorization from the USA to be a State. The USA authorized Statehood, and allowed autonomous State rule within the confines of obedience to the US Constitution. The 10th Amendment allows the States to do whatever they want that is not within the scope of the US Constitution.

The only two things that the USA Constitution really has direct control over are borders and coining money. The rest of it comes under agreements the States have made with the Federal Government outside of the main two.

When there are battles between a State and the Federal, the Supreme Court uses the Constitution, along with the agreements between the State and the Federal, to determine who is right. Consider the following.


U.S. Supreme Court Sides With Tribes In Stunning 5-4 Ruling



In a 5-4 vote, the United States Supreme Court on Thursday sided with Oklahoma tribes in McGirt v. Oklahoma, saying much of the eastern half of Oklahoma is still an Indian reservation.

Justice Neil Gorsuch joined Justices Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer to issue the majority opinion.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word."

IS THE EASTERN HALF OF OKLAHOMA A RESERVATION?

The central question in this case: Were the Muscogee (Creek) Nation's boundaries as set by the 1866 Treaty ever dissolved by Congress? Though the federal government largely dismantled Tribal governments in Oklahoma in the late 1800s, if the 1866 and subsequent Treaties are still valid, then a large portion of Eastern Oklahoma is still Indian Country. The State of Oklahoma believes this would fundamentally change law enforcement and could resultin thousands of criminal cases being overturned.

The defendant in this case, Jimcy McGirt, is a citizen of the Seminole Nation. He claims he was prosecuted by the wrong court. Because he is a Tribal citizen and committed his crime in on Creek Tribal land, he says the State of Oklahoma never had jurisdiction to try him.

His guilt isn't in question in this case — he's serving a life sentence for sex crimes he committed against a four year-old child. The argument is that McGirt believes he should have been prosecuted in federal court, not state court, because of where his crime was committed.

In the majority opinion, Gorsuch wrote about how this criminal case is actually a matter of Tribal sovereignty.


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sr. member
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in germany they have multiple languages too, sorbian and north fresian for instance

in russia they have 35 main languages accepted in russia and 100 minority languages

in france they have several languages too

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but here is the funny part americans feel patriotic but say they speak english
tom@o vs tom8o shows the difference of pronounciation.. oops i mean pronunciation


jes but it its not dominated, with a people and its more than 2000 year long history.

germany identifies itself with its langauge not with its territory the EU identifies itself with its territory
legendary
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in germany they have multiple languages too, sorbian and north fresian for instance

in russia they have 35 main languages accepted in russia and 100 minority languages

in france they have several languages too

..
but here is the funny part americans feel patriotic but say they speak english
tom@o vs tom8o shows the difference of pronounciation.. oops i mean pronunciation
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
americans describe themselves as being a nation, like germany, or france or russia, but they are not a society that is being held together by a single language, but by a geographic boundaries.

nations in america are the englisch speaking, the hispanics, the sioux etc.
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