Topic: The way US government can crack down Silk Road, Tor and Bitcoin (Read 13614 times)

Mc gyver can. 

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RFID tracked packages? good luck detecting them from more than 10 m away

you are 100% right. The current internet is broken, so we need a new network, set up in such a way that it is better for freedom of speech and such, and not friendly to draconian legislation and control.

Other than that, all you can do is arm yourself with liberty and serve justice to those that need it most. I am a firm believer in fighting fire with fire, as we all know protesting is usually slow and ineffective.

The constitution is just a piece of paper with stuff written on it 224 years, 6 months and 1 day ago. it is only useful (or has power) as long as both parties agree to obey and defend it. The only binding law is the law that gets defended. Everything anyone ever does is nothing more than a bunch of agreements. For example, your money is an agreement to pay debt as a later date. Your bank accounts are nothing more than a running total of amounts of "money" to be moved around to certain people/entities.

i love all these armchair revolutionaries talking about how the government can take SR down, "but they can't kill TOR and BTC" bullshit.

they can do whatever the fuck they want.

they can't stop TOR and BTC - but are you going to fuck with that shit when they are threatening you not to?

they said the same shit about file sharing sites - now many of them are shutting down VOLUNTARILY. cuz they are scared.


we got guys under indefinite detention in this country.

so let's stop all this "from my cold dead hands" gayness.

arguing from the constitution is fail - it's worthless.

The park, the woods, abandoned houses(not so good idea?), a river, a lake(water tight container in this case). GPS is so cheap today its not even funny, so that would not really be a problem, even if it were not very accurate, as long as you were also given some landmark too, like the 3rd bush from the left from that red house as you come in from the highway, approaching from the north.

yeah? where are you going to stash the guns?

If i were selling guns, id dead drop them ahead of time, then when the sale went through, just tell them where the gun is. drugs could work this way as well. Although i can not think of anything similar for people buying stuff.

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Because the guy who ran cardersmarket was pwning their server left and right, so FBI undercover offered to 'help with security'.. this builds trust.. then dude made him co-admin and it's all downhill from there

However that was secret service/FBI.. DEA probably isn't that competent to takeover SR

lmao why would darkmarket let others be admins, what a gay place

They will probably attempt to infiltrate SR/Armoury like the feds have done countless other underground markets. SR was even hiring publically a while back for database people, and if you've ever read up on previous stings like Darkmarket you know all about how they became admins there and took it down. That said there are no bulk transactions really on SR so why bother when they are already swamped with Mexican cartel madness.. elite ex soldiers trafficking by the kilo in every US city and hidden cells of assassins is probably a higher priority than a few grams in the mail

If I was tasked with the job of taking down the Armoury the first thing I would do is fill it with bogus listings and ship RFID tracked packages and pick up the buyers, spreading uncertainty in the market so nobody trusts it. To get at old sellers order their stuff, and trace the serial numbers and match it up with their shipping locations to narrow it down.

Can also social engineer these guys.. claim your weapon has a problem and you want to exchange it or trade or anything to get the guy to agree to receive a shipment for you. Now wait for his runner to show up to collect it, threaten them with eleventy billion years in prison, they talk, you go pickup the gun runner. There are countless ways to infiltrate the armoury I'm sure they're all doing it right now.

Europe/Canada/UK freak over anonymous gun shipments and will no doubt pressure the US to help them crackdown on shippers.... which really doesn't make sense since the worst Euro terrorist Anders Breivik bought all his weapons legally anyways (after failing to buy them illegally in Eastern europe)

nope its different servers and everything. 

pretty sure it's still part of SR

I concur, violence gets shit/ stuff done.

If SR, TOR, or BITCOIN ever stop working anonymously that is the end for those services...

Very well said, Holliday.

i just now realized that i need to start stock piling semi automatic weapons and munitions... never know who will show up at your door...

cocaine is criminalized in USA because slaves stood up for their rights under influence of cocaine, therefore they created the law against cocaine. before it, cocaine was given by doctor as medicament and even widely used by society. when they criminalized it, crowd of people finished in the prison, they became cheap labor for private companies which make contracts with prisons.

so, how can gov destroy btc, tor and silkroad?
they can scare people with blabla in all medias against any anonymous currency which allow to the people anonymous transactions and savings (to avoid taxes).
they don't need to make new law, they can just use present law about transactions, savings and taxes and they can begin to hunt people. the same like in the case of megaupload, one arrested will not stop piracy but others will become afraid and police produce damage in any case, so, they are happy, even they didn't stop all piracy sites. police just act as politicians say them to do, so, some chiefs of cops will get promotion and better paid job. in order to get promotion, someone must finish in the prison. they don't care who and how many.
tor is used by military and its intelligence, I don't think anyone will destroy tor network.
silkroad can be destroyed by FBI hackers, they can attack server where is located silkroad, they can make it very slow or even blocked, they can spam it, troll it, destroy reputation and so on. that's standard tactic of FBI against any political opponent (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc). so, there is nothing new to do, all things are already done in the past against some other enemies of FBI, you just need to read about it and you will recognize their tactics. FBI don't care for the law, when they decide to attack, they will use any tool to destroy what they want to destroy.

According to an article (gizmodo?) that quoted one of the SR sellers "Dbush", most of his sales were to European customers outside the USA.

Felons and people who don't want paper trails. 


Yep, we got that part right at least.