The Willy Report and PRICE!!? - page 2.

Mikcik

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Quote from: gnode on May 26, 2014, 06:57:15 AM

Oh no! the U.S. stock market is manipulated, it will crash to zero tomorrow!

Wake up Chicken Little.

you are total idiot, i dont even know why am i wasting my time with this post, but ok, it said that we should help the weak (in your case stupid) ones:

Does the MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION know that the stock market is manipulated? NO! What will happen when the majority finds out, and realizes that the price is overburn? The price will fell... oh... and what did the majority of bitcoin world found out now... that the price is manipulated...

Really i said it many times here, if you do not have anything usefull to contribute, dont contribute at all.

helmax

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Quote from: JJB on May 26, 2014, 02:09:09 PM

Quote from: helmax on May 26, 2014, 02:06:44 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on May 26, 2014, 02:02:34 PM

Topic of the week. Everyone and their mom is talking about Willy. Can we just consolidate all the threads?

think is topic of month
price is bullshit
we dont have real price

How can we tell what is and isnt real? Red or blue pill time lol.

right if someone want sell tommorrow with price 10 000$ sell and finish but is not fair to end user
so if price is high
altcoins is competition for bitcoin
you want price increase we are want
but step by step
we need market we need mainstream
and if have regulation is possible stop bots from exchangers

because they exist

JJB

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Quote from: helmax on May 26, 2014, 02:06:44 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on May 26, 2014, 02:02:34 PM

Topic of the week. Everyone and their mom is talking about Willy. Can we just consolidate all the threads?

think is topic of month
price is bullshit
we dont have real price

How can we tell what is and isnt real? Red or blue pill time lol.

helmax

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Quote from: haploid23 on May 26, 2014, 02:02:34 PM

Topic of the week. Everyone and their mom is talking about Willy. Can we just consolidate all the threads?

think is topic of month
price is bullshit
we dont have real price

Dr. Pepper

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Quote from: haploid23 on May 26, 2014, 02:02:34 PM

Topic of the week. Everyone and their mom is talking about Willy. Can we just consolidate all the threads?

Any type of big scandal or news can excpect several threads.

haploid23

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Topic of the week. Everyone and their mom is talking about Willy. Can we just consolidate all the threads?

gentlemand

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Welt Am Draht

It's not news. It's compelling opinion. An opinion that's based on stolen data that had a virus as an added extra.

Until confirmation comes from a mouth directly involved in what's being alleged, it doesn't have any weight to it.

Beyonce

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Surfbort.

This is pretty bad news but not unsurprising. I wouldve thought it wouldve had some impact on the price.

BitDreams

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Quote from: sgbett on May 26, 2014, 07:12:27 AM

Quote from: Mikcik on May 26, 2014, 06:32:51 AM

oK, THERE Are several topics on this, but i dont really see people panicking about one particular thing:

The price now!? And where will the price go soon in few hours when this info spreads around the internet and media... because if it is true, and dont forget that the media will hype this news anyways it could mean a HUGE selloff of bitcoin and falling price, i dont know if peopel are stupid or just not realizing it, but if the price spike to 1000 was artifical and even the price spike back in april 2013 might be artifical that means that the price currently might be hugely WRONG and stupid panicking people might start a sell of so my questions is, what do you think about it and will you sell your bitcoin NOW (and buy it back when (if) the price falls consideradebly)??

Im scared as fuck...

Market uptrend confirmation is in; Noobs are "scared as fuck".

Fear of success.

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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

Quote from: RUEHL on May 26, 2014, 09:37:01 AM

Whether it's good or bad the Chinese are doing the WILLIE right now and have been doing it since last year.

Will all the sanctions and bank bans, how can they still have over 60% of BTC trading volume?

BTC Pie Chart

Wow! I can't wait till OKCoin goes IPO, for look who has invested in them: http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/okcoin

Personally, I like http://web.archive.org/web/20110208145040/http://www.mandala-capital.com/ (don't bother going to their site now). I like them so much, they inspired me to start my own Investment Fund - from scratch.

...

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...

Another investor of OKCoin - http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/ceyuan-ventures - has the same office as below.

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SEED&SPARK
460 Bush Street, Floor 2
San Francisco, CA 94108
T 916.730.1881
E [email protected]
Emily Best, Founder/CEO
Seed&Spark combines crowdfunding
and streaming online distribution for
a seamless filmmaking and watching
experience

Of which I just linked to Buttercoin here - http://www.edigitalstudios.com/ - via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMyJVb22xr0

The above research took me less than two minutes to find, albeit longer to pen. Imagine what you could do if you simply look.

helmax

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regulation only help if is authority can control this company for not do same mistakes

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

Quote from: bluemeanie1 on May 26, 2014, 10:38:40 AM

Quote from: Kluge on May 26, 2014, 10:33:52 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on May 26, 2014, 10:03:23 AM

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise, really. High frequency trading is used to manipulate every other market on the face of the planet, so obviously someone was going to put two and two together and realise you can do the same with Bitcoin. The real problem is, how do you prevent it?

Government or consumer-demanded transparency. Don't expect the latter unless a bunch of people get screwed over first, though (and then it needs to happen roughly five more times, and then people will go to government instead of demanding it from the company). The real issue, I think, is that the "problem" is more dangerous than immoral, so of course, individuals being the arrogant fucktards we are, assume we can mitigate the risk, operate in the clear, and come out as the exception to guaranteed eventual implosion. Nothing to feel too bad about, really, though, nor some new plague on Bitcoin due to particularly shifty individuals at the top... banks pull this shit on a regular basis.

it seems to me like they might have even created this whole debacle to PROVE to the average person that regulation is needed.

"YOU NEED US!"

time to move to NXT.

-bm

edit: typo

Not quite sure how regulation would stop an algorithmic bot. Transparency helps us see it happening, but again, doesn't prevent it. In the fiat world, people are campaigning for a "Tobin Tax" or "Robin Hood Tax" to simply make high frequency trading unprofitable (and it may actually happen in some places), but enforced fees is one of those things that goes against Bitcoin's core principles. It would cause problems with making micropayments a viable possibility, too. It's difficult to imagine how we could incorporate a similar concept without making compromises elsewhere.

It's something to think about, though.

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bluemeanie

Quote from: neofelis on May 26, 2014, 10:44:28 AM

Let's not forget that bitcoin is merely a PROTOCOL for transfer of assets. Currency is just the first asset that attached itself to it. Relax gentlemen. Collect and use bitcoin for bitcoin's sake. This exchange rate manipulation will be small potatoes when the true value of bitcoin is realized.

this notion that Bitcoin can be used for more than a currency ledger seems to have gained a measure of popularity, however it has absolutely nothing supporting it.

It's already been established that the color coin model poses some very serious risks.

Bitcoin was built for one simple purpose and that's all it can be used for.

-bm

neofelis

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Let's not forget that bitcoin is merely a PROTOCOL for transfer of assets. Currency is just the first asset that attached itself to it. Relax gentlemen. Collect and use bitcoin for bitcoin's sake. This exchange rate manipulation will be small potatoes when the true value of bitcoin is realized.

Bitcoin continues to have the following going for it.

Limited supply and a secure protocol. Bitcoin cannot be manipulated. It cannot make judgements on its owner. It continues to evolve at 25 bitcoin per block. Safe and steady.

Every store, every restaurant, every hotel I go to, I ask the same question. Do you take bitcoin? (To the chagrin of my girlfriend). I encourage everybody to do the same. Spread the word about bitcoin. That will increase its use, increases it's price, and finally increase its stability. When the 21million bitcoin are finally spread out across the planet,I believe it is unlikely that any one individual or group of individuals will be able to manipulate its price.

Hoorah for bitcoin!

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bluemeanie

Quote from: Kluge on May 26, 2014, 10:33:52 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on May 26, 2014, 10:03:23 AM

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise, really. High frequency trading is used to manipulate every other market on the face of the planet, so obviously someone was going to put two and two together and realise you can do the same with Bitcoin. The real problem is, how do you prevent it?

Government or consumer-demanded transparency. Don't expect the latter unless a bunch of people get screwed over first, though (and then it needs to happen roughly five more times, and then people will go to government instead of demanding it from the company). The real issue, I think, is that the "problem" is more dangerous than immoral, so of course, individuals being the arrogant fucktards we are, assume we can mitigate the risk, operate in the clear, and come out as the exception to guaranteed eventual implosion. Nothing to feel too bad about, really, though, nor some new plague on Bitcoin due to particularly shifty individuals at the top... banks pull this shit on a regular basis.

it seems to me like they might have even created this whole debacle to PROVE to the average person that regulation is needed.

"YOU NEED US!"

time to move to NXT.

-bm

edit: typo

Kluge

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Quote from: DooMAD on May 26, 2014, 10:03:23 AM

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise, really. High frequency trading is used to manipulate every other market on the face of the planet, so obviously someone was going to put two and two together and realise you can do the same with Bitcoin. The real problem is, how do you prevent it?

Government or consumer-demanded transparency. Don't expect the latter unless a bunch of people get screwed over first, though (and then it needs to happen roughly five more times, and then people will go to government instead of demanding it from the company). The real issue, I think, is that the "problem" is more dangerous than immoral, so of course, individuals being the arrogant fucktards we are, assume we can mitigate the risk, operate in the clear, and come out as the exception to guaranteed eventual implosion. Nothing to feel too bad about, really, though, nor some new plague on Bitcoin due to particularly shifty individuals at the top... banks pull this shit on a regular basis.

johnatan32

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People who understand know that it would continue to rise, that know where Bitcoin came last time, there will be people that will be sold, but they are few I think, so do not worry

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

It shouldn't come as much of a surprise, really. High frequency trading is used to manipulate every other market on the face of the planet, so obviously someone was going to put two and two together and realise you can do the same with Bitcoin. The real problem is, how do you prevent it?

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Quote from: Morguk on May 26, 2014, 08:05:50 AM

When I first read it I did think the same, but then I thought 2 things.

Someone showed how the volume of the bot was only like 10,000 BTC of 300,000 BTC traded in a day, and also as pointed out in the end of the willy report we have hit a nice up-trend, without the need of any bot, and therefore this is a fair and natural price for current bitcoin.

The willy/markus bot was effectively creating new USD deposits on the exchange to buy the BTC, whereas normal trading volume is just back and forth between users which is 99.5% a zero sum game.

RUEHL

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Whether it's good or bad the Chinese are doing the WILLIE right now and have been doing it since last year.

Will all the sanctions and bank bans, how can they still have over 60% of BTC trading volume?

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