The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine - page 4.

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Quote from: decodx on March 03, 2022, 05:57:38 PM

According to Bloomberg's report, Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.

That's unexpected but probably have foreseen that coming.

After all of the sports orgs banning Russians and Belarusians onto their events or allowing but through a neutral flag and has to deny the Russian/Belarusian flag.

Now it has come to the point that big brands, deals and sponsorships are coming after them. Apart from the economy sanctions that has been applied on them.

These cutting off of sponsorships are really going to take a huge cut and slash in addition to the sanction to Russia's economy.

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The International World Games Association Bans Russian and Belarusian Athletes and Officials from The World Games 2022 Competition.

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The International World Games Association (IWGA) and the Executive Board of The World Games 2022 Birmingham Organizing Committee have both met and agreed, in the light of current circumstances, to ban Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials from participating in The World Games 2022 in Birmingham from 7-17 July.

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International Automobile Federation (FIA) will allow Russian and Belarusian drivers to race on under neutral flag, but no Russian/Belarusian national teams, no Russian/Belarusian national symbols and no international/zone competition to take place in Russia and Belarus, until further notice.

The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem added: "I want to thank the Council members for their prompt action in deciding these measures in the interests of sport and peace. We stand in solidarity with Leonid Kostyuchenko, the President of the Federation Automobile d’Ukraine (FAU) and the wider FIA family in the country. The measures taken today recognise the authority of the FAU in Ukraine and are also aligned with the recommendations recently made by the International Olympic Committee. We are in active discussions with our members as we continue to extend our compassion and support in their time of need. We sincerely hope for a peaceful resolution to their intolerable hardship."

Billionaire Alisher Usmanov has stepped down as President of the International Fencing Federation (FIE), after the European Union (EU) imposed economic sanctions on him.

Shortly afterwards, FIE Executive Committee decided not to invite or allow the participation of Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials in FIE compettions, until further notice.

According to Bloomberg's report, Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.

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Quote from: dunfida on March 03, 2022, 05:49:07 PM

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Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.

Things had been done already and there's no turning back now as the war had already started.We dont know on whats up on the mind of Putin on why he really that pursue on invading UKraine.

Whether we do like it or not there's nothing we can do on stopping it and all of those effects around which causes for russian industries to be heavily affected by this war.
Some would be saying it is not right but lets just deal on what decisions had been made yet options is not really that something possible.

putin will not be stopping anytime soon. and their sports is just one of the casualties of this war. i believe some of these athletes who has the chance to get out of this country will move to another country for the time being. a lot of these Russian people don't like what their leader is up but they can't stop him now.
we don't know yet where this war will end up with. i believe putin is ready to be isolated by the world, maybe except for china. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 03, 2022, 02:41:34 AM

I think this is extremely unfair to athletes and sports teams from Russia. This country has many good athletes, for example, the hero of the last Olympics in Beijing, the skier Bolshunov. I think that such an exclusion of such a large country from all international competitions does great harm to all sports in the world. And many champions, with the exclusion of applicants from Russia, will themselves know that they may not be the best in the world in their sport. Especially if they know their Russian opponent, who was simply not allowed to compete.

I hope this kind of discrimination doesn't last too long.

I have to disagree with the discrimination part. It's not what happening.

Let's take that as a form of condemning Russian actions without the act of military actions. Any ways to pressure Russia, or should I say, Putin itself, is necessary as even his soldiers don't want to participate to the invasion, they are bound to follow Putin regardless of their stand.

As also mentioned on my early post here, it's also to protect Russian athletes from a possible violence from the fans (maybe while in game) that don't truly understand the situation because of their "hate" towards Putin action. It's good to isolate those athletes for their safety.

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Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.

Things had been done already and there's no turning back now as the war had already started.We dont know on whats up on the mind of Putin on why he really that pursue on invading UKraine.

Whether we do like it or not there's nothing we can do on stopping it and all of those effects around which causes for russian industries to be heavily affected by this war.
Some would be saying it is not right but lets just deal on what decisions had been made yet options is not really that something possible.

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I just personally think it's a pity to some athletes since there are some that are there for their passion for the sport, though a part of me do agree with the sanction since they do represent their country, Russia (whether they like it or not at this point in time). I guess it's just rather unfortunate since they never really chose what country they were born in, nor did they actually know that their president will, well, do something like this when they started representing their country.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on March 03, 2022, 04:22:27 PM

You know, Ukraine and Ukrainians might be the victims here in this war but looking at it critically, you could also tell that, Russians are paying a great price for the decisions of Putin. Fortunately, it's for the good of the Republic of Russia for which all Russians share a part but the price they now pay seems so much. The word can't even look at the face of a Russian right now, not to tall of doing business with them or even, sharing a table, bus or meal with a Russian. The funny thing is, if it were left in the hands of the Russian citizens, this war could have been ended, following the protest they've carried out across there country but, its Putin's war .

^ Ukrainian probably a victim but I think also the Rusian citizen is a victim too and you are right, this is a Putin's fight which is only his goal to have a more powerful country and invading other country makes them strong. A Russian citizen has been also suffered not only Ukrainian, look at those people who have a business for example in the gambling industry, I think not all investors in one company that based in Russia are all Russian, so they are affected by this Russian invasion, and sports now has been reacted too which is I think should not. It will probably have a postponed but wont stop.

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You know, Ukraine and Ukrainians might be the victims here in this war but looking at it critically, you could also tell that, Russians are paying a great price for the decisions of Putin. Fortunately, it's for the good of the Republic of Russia for which all Russians share a part but the price they now pay seems so much. The word can't even look at the face of a Russian right now, not to tall of doing business with them or even, sharing a table, bus or meal with a Russian. The funny thing is, if it were left in the hands of the Russian citizens, this war could have been ended, following the protest they've carried out across there country but, its Putin's war .

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I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.

When it comes to personal perspective and views then dont expect that everyone would really be doing on to the same path.We do have our own will and decide for ourselves on which
or whose would be gonna be supported whether being a Russian turns out to be supportive with Ukraine or would totally be that loyal on the place where they do live in.
I dont see for Intelligence to have some major role on choosing on which one you should really support off.

That is just the way it is, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and even if we disagree with them they have the right to express their opinion just as much as we do, after all the western media is condemning the invasion of Russia but I doubt the same is happening at China and other countries, so while the criticism against Russian actions may seem unanimous this is just an illusion since there are probably a lot of people supporting the actions of Putin as well.

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Quote from: decodx on March 02, 2022, 04:14:50 PM

In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, more and more sports have followed the IOC's call to ban Russian athletes from competing. I will try to compile all of those links here for your information.

There seems to be a massive and growing backlash against Russia right now. It's hard to keep track of all the sports sanction as there is a stream of new stuff coming out constantly. All sorts of fighting competitions have dumped Russia and it's even going so far as FIFA dropping them from games. It's going a step beyond allowing Russian players to play under a neutral flag and all Russian sports people are being restricted completely. It seems pretty unprecedented but then Russia has gone full on crazy mode with their invasion.

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The world is trying to raise the pressure over Russia in any possible ways they can. Besides being an humiliation for Russia to be removed from the sports' scene, it has also an internal strong impact as athletes and sports fans may turn themselves against Putin ffor creating this totally unnecessary mess with serious consequences especially for the average russian citizens and soldiers, who will suffer due to the economical depression and war casualties. Now they can't even participate international competitions, what is really frustrating and leads them to be more isolated than ever in the global scene.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 03, 2022, 11:18:34 AM

I guess its too hard with the punishment that the athletes are now prohibited to play their particular sports, but of course, it's their president so they can't do anything with that also they are both recovering with their economy got too many expenses to their war, as possible they make the peace talk immediately than risking the lives of the people.

Agreed, but this is similar to the asian hatred that has occurred in other countries as a result of COVID, in which they have come to despise all Asians since it began in China. I could honestly say that it is sad that athletes are being barred from participating in games because of the war, but I believe that this is the best decision for their safety because we don't know what people will do on them given that many people are now angry at the Russian president because of the war between Ukraine and the second is that I believe the Russian government will not allow it because they are in an economic crisis.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on March 03, 2022, 09:10:15 AM

To become more united under Putin. More supportive of the ukraine invasion. In retaliation for these heavy handed measures being directed towards them.

I get that this is supposed to hurt Putin and russia but have people considered it could have the opposite effect.

Definitely it is.
The more and more severe the sanctions against the Russians, the more united they will be around their leader. So it looks like the stupid politicians from Europe and the USA will just have the opposite effect. And the mass consciousness of Russians will blame the USA and their European hangers-on. The tougher the sanctions, the tougher the response to them will be. And Europe will be able to feel it with its big euro inflation.

It's just ridiculous when Switzerland prohibits the passage of Russian civil aircraft in its airspace, and Russia in response closes its airspace to Swiss aircraft.

What do you think - is there a difference when the Swiss will have to fly in a huge loop over the ocean to China, Japan and Korea?
And accordingly pay for aviation fuel.

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I guess its too hard with the punishment that the athletes are now prohibited to play their particular sports, but of course, it's their president so they can't do anything with that also they are both recovering with their economy got too many expenses to their war, as possible they make the peace talk immediately than risking the lives of the people.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 03, 2022, 06:57:57 AM

Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics. Roll Eyes

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them. Roll Eyes

Of course they care sports. He attended the Beijing Olympics. In every olympics, Russia wins alot of gold medals proving they motivate their citizen to engage in sports. This is a competitive race same as Chinese. But right now its now their priority because of the war.

In MMA, they almost dominate already. Most of my bets atually for Khabib and his proteges. But now all their fighters are also affected. The wolrd gone mad that even them are sanctioned.

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Quote from: aioc on March 03, 2022, 03:54:24 AM

That's a good idea to let them play for another team but they have a contract to fulfill and they are under an obligation under the Russian government to represent them, they will incur the wrath of the Russian government and will be sanctioned, besides this is not permanent if Putin back out the sports organizations may change their decision, this is just a symbolism that they are one in condemning Putin's action.

You are right that Putin will very likely not accept athletes to compete for other teams. Atleast he waited for the Olympics to be over with the invasion. I wonder how long will these sanctions be in place. So far the war is going on for a week and maybe they can negotiate a peace treaty quickly, but even then will the world go back to normality quickly? From the short video clips out of Ukraine it looks like there is a lot of destruction happening. And I imagine that the world will not abandon the sanctions until there is some form of compensation. The conflict could carry on for years and the athletes will have to sit out on international competitions. I expect the list of Russian sport teams to get sanctions to grow each week.

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Could these bans cause many russians who do not support the invasion of ukraine.

To become more united under Putin. More supportive of the ukraine invasion. In retaliation for these heavy handed measures being directed towards them.

I get that this is supposed to hurt Putin and russia but have people considered it could have the opposite effect.

It is similar to Justin Trudeau declaring martial law in canada and seizing funds donated to truck protestors.

Russians will be angry. Who will they blame for this? Putin or foreigners with their sanctions and cancel culture.

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Quote from: DU18 on March 02, 2022, 05:55:31 PM

I agree with what the international sports committees did in banning russia who invaded ukraine from competing in world sports, but has the committee been doing fair rules so far?
Because as far as I know it seems that the world sports committee tends to be more aggressive when the ukraine state was invaded, but they were silent when the americas invaded aghanistan and the middle east, so it seems the world sports committee prefers to turn a blind eye to what israel is doing to palestine until recently.
Honestly, I see that there seems to be injustice in the decision, if they really criticize Russia actions, of course they should take action against Israel, which continues to kill Palestinians...!

STOP THE WAR AND GIVE FOR FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE And UKRAINE

We all don't want war to happen anywhere, but the egos of many world leaders make bloodshed often happen, I think the current sanctions are just political games from people in power and make sports as a means of playing their politics, I think what what has happened in the last few days in ukraine is too much of a priority, while what has happened for years in palestine they have ignored all this time, I personally quite regret the attitude of world leaders who have turned a blind eye to all the suffering that has happened in palestine so far and hope they act fair in making decisions regardless of race and religion.

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Thanks for sharing all of this information, merit left and deserving for following up with all of this. As much as I don’t want to hurt the average Russian who most likely has nothing to do with this war, I think it’s important to hurt the Russian economy in any way we can. If we piss off the people enough, we could see them support their evil dictator less and less.

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Amazing how sports personalities from Russia that are currently IN Russia are expressing their disbelief on what's happening. Voicing out opinions that are against the government's ideals at this time is very hard, considering that the protesters from Day 1 were arrested almost immediately. They are brave enough to tell that something's wrong in the face of a bigger adversary.

It's sad that most sporting events are not including Russia right now on their tourneys and whatnot. The fault of one ruling party affects all that don't even know what's happening.

Any sanctions that are imposed on Russia only cause problems for the general population, which includes athletes. I believe that Russian citizens have long been unable to participate in fair elections and express their positions so this is suppressed by the authorities. The Russian elite has so much money that they can afford to survive on any sanctions, but ordinary people find themselves in a difficult financial situation.

I think the secret hope of the sanctions is also that the brutal economic crisis facing the Russians will lead to some kind of revolution. The only real power that can stop Putin and his regime is his own people. And Russia is so big that the regime cannot capture a revolution if enough people really take to the streets. In addition, in Russia - unlike China - the Internet is still largely free. So far, however, I had the feeling that only a small part, mostly young people in Russia, had rebelled against the regime, and Putin has been able to nip this in the bud.

Any conflict can be resolved through negotiations, while sanctions are more like the destruction of the economy, which as we know very often turns into a real war.

If you follow your logic, the Russian authorities will be forced to completely cut off gas, oil and metals supplies to the countries that imposed sanctions against Russia.

Quote from: Joca97 on March 03, 2022, 08:06:26 AM

Politics is politics. I dont know why they allow politics in sport. Im not Russian or something but you should at least allow sports to be played. They have families aswell that live from sports. Uefa and Fifa always said dont get politics involved in sports and thats just what they did. Hopefully the war stops soon so things can go to normal

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