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February 23, 2024, 08:21:21 PM
#73
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This is a forum which means all post here is based on experience of each user and the goal of the thread is to gather data based on experience. This is the best way on acquiring a stats since this thread will serve as a form as survey.

It’s very hard to measure the performance of all the slot games while gathering data from various users based on their experience is good way to get substantial data because no one will give an opinion here about how garbage the slot provider is if they are not.

The other thing is that many people usually like the providers that they use, because they are familiar with them.

Familiarity is very important to us, and that's why switching from one service to another is very difficult.

That's why companies usually offer incentives like money to bring your friends to their business.

It's hard to get a new customer, it's much easier to keep the same ones.
legendary
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February 23, 2024, 12:37:20 PM
#72
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While looking to how to default and discriminate some of these site providers, can we also talk about the good side of them? Or do we just have some sorts of grudges over them due to our tough experiences with them?
Maybe we can also pick points of their good sides . Haha!
But if I would suggest, stressing these energies to research and recommend the comfortable providers would be better of. Maybe some of us would want to give it a try because after talking about these worse ones then which would be suit best? We also need the positive side discussions.

You are welcome to share your experience, or you can start a new thread where you can describe your experience with different providers and slots with a positive attitude and you can point out the good sides of each of them. Why not?

As I mentioned in some of my previous comments, all slot providers give and take... my list of "the worst slot providers" is about them taking too much and not giving back, at least not to me. For me, it's simple, if someone is a slot player (a person who plays slot for real, not demo versions) then he must have his favourite providers and slots, and for sure there must be a list of the worst ones.

The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

It is, of course. And you need to spin those slots to find out which slots are good and bad for you. I guess I should have mentioned at the beginning of this thread that I expect comments from people who actually play slots. It seems to me that there are a lot of philosophers here who just talk about slots without any real experience.
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February 23, 2024, 10:25:30 AM
#71
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
I agree with you, especially the bold sentences. I feel that because one of my friends really like Pragmatic Play with all of their games. But the other friend say that Pragmatic Play is the worst slot provider because he never get big win. We agree that winning on the slot games need luck so we can't say that one provider is worst for us because other people will not say the same. Worst or not only we can know and if one slot provider is not work for you because you get lose many times, you can moves to the other slot provider. I am sure you can win some money Grin
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February 23, 2024, 07:19:02 AM
#70
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
While looking to how to default and discriminate some of these site providers, can we also talk about the good side of them? Or do we just have some sorts of grudges over them due to our tough experiences with them?
Maybe we can also pick points of their good sides . Haha!
But if I would suggest, stressing these energies to research and recommend the comfortable providers would be better of. Maybe some of us would want to give it a try because after talking about these worse ones then which would be suit best? We also need the positive side discussions.
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Dimon69
February 23, 2024, 06:24:53 AM
#69
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

This is a forum which means all post here is based on experience of each user and the goal of the thread is to gather data based on experience. This is the best way on acquiring a stats since this thread will serve as a form as survey.

It’s very hard to measure the performance of all the slot games while gathering data from various users based on their experience is good way to get substantial data because no one will give an opinion here about how garbage the slot provider is if they are not.
legendary
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February 23, 2024, 05:55:25 AM
#68
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
Exactly, the same when we are talking about which casino is the best. The answer will be vary based on the user's experience. It will be hard to find objective answers if we are discussing something like this unless we get the answer from a slot expert who have played most slots by most providers so many times and this slot expert take notes about what is good and bad in each game.
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February 23, 2024, 03:18:33 AM
#67
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

Sure, but reading opinions of many people usually groups a few good ones and a few bad ones, and you could get an idea of what's going on by using these reviews.

Back in the days reviews were real, but these days many reviews are paid or written by a bot.
legendary
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February 23, 2024, 01:01:26 AM
#66
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

Therefore, mentioned the reason for both likes and dislikes to make it clear for everyone.

Anyhow, for me, it's not the game provider but some of their slot games themselves. There are slot games where Scatter/Bonus Round/Free Spins really sucks. I'm trying to remember a Dragon-kind game (Hold and Win) where Free Spins features are the worst. The only best part is the Hold and Win feature but unfortunately too difficult to achieve.

That's why in terms of the Hold and Win type of game, I only prefer BNG game providers where almost their entire games are like that.
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February 23, 2024, 12:53:51 AM
#65
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
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February 22, 2024, 10:38:33 AM
#64
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I don't think that only one game is bad, I feel the same about all Hacksaw games. And I had crazy long streaks of dead spins with all providers, but Hacksaw is just killing me every time I play it. All other providers give and take, sometimes they take more and give less, but Hacksaw is just taking and taking... and in my case, Hacksaw never gave me anything meaningful.

Of course, it's just my opinion and experience, and this topic is about the personal view, each of us who plays slots has an opinion about which ones are best and worst ones. As I said, I saw other people hitting max wins often on Hackasaw, and I bought many expensive bonus rounds on Hacksaw games and got less than x5-x10 10 times in a row... I had pretty bad streaks with other providers, but other providers were not as bad as Hacksaw was too many times.

Yeah, definitely one game is not necessarily what they were hoping to get, but as a single person I guess that is what you mostly refer to.

At the end of the day it is a lot of people involved in this and it might not just be the responsibility of one person, but we would never know.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 10:32:09 AM
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I believe you have been playing slots for years mate, but I dont understand why you consider a game is the worst just because of 300 spins without bonus round and 100 spins (double chance) without bonus rounds.
I played one of your favorite games few times (Merge Up by Bgaming), I experienced 200 spins with double chance but no bonus round as well.
I experienced the same thing in some other providers such as Pragmatic, Play n Go, Push Gaming, No Limit City etc
Even in Pragmatic Play and Play n Go which can be considered as providers with medium volatility and higher RTP than others, bad luck may come and we may experience no bonus round within few hundred spins.
On the other side, when the good luck comes, we may get few bonus rounds within few tens spins in high volatility slots.
Of course it is your own right to have such an opinion.


I don't think that only one game is bad, I feel the same about all Hacksaw games. And I had crazy long streaks of dead spins with all providers, but Hacksaw is just killing me every time I play it. All other providers give and take, sometimes they take more and give less, but Hacksaw is just taking and taking... and in my case, Hacksaw never gave me anything meaningful.

Of course, it's just my opinion and experience, and this topic is about the personal view, each of us who plays slots has an opinion about which ones are best and worst ones. As I said, I saw other people hitting max wins often on Hackasaw, and I bought many expensive bonus rounds on Hacksaw games and got less than x5-x10 10 times in a row... I had pretty bad streaks with other providers, but other providers were not as bad as Hacksaw was too many times.
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February 20, 2024, 09:27:39 AM
#62
Based on experience, I don't like NetENT, I don't know when playing from this provider, it's difficult for me to get free spins. But this is just from my experience, who has tried games from NetEnt several times. Another provider that I initially i liked, but now is no more, the provider is PGSoft, because most of the free spins I get (from normal spins), are just a lure, with wins often being lower than the buy free spins value. It's much different if compared with at the beginning I choose this provider. of course this might be bad luck for me and the timing is not right. It's the same as when I hated Sweet Bonanza because I felt the same as I experienced with the PGSoft provider.


This is do not reflect the results of other people, because this is only from my experience.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 09:05:15 AM
#61
That's why Hacksaw is the worst provider of all, I had +300 spins with no bonus and very few big wins. I also played with the "higher bonus chance" feature and did not hit the bonus round in +100 spins. I have been buying bonuses, and all I can say is a complete disaster….

I have said many times that I will never play Hacksaw again, but there comes a moment when something attracts me to try them one more time. I guess it's watching all those "max wins" on social networks, more and more I think they are all sponsored. Anyway, a few weeks back was the last time I decided to try Le Bandit... a total catastrophe! I was playing normal spins, buying bonuses, I even bought 2-3 "All that glitters is gold" bonuses... I ended with a busted bankroll after 20 minutes.

I believe you have been playing slots for years mate, but I dont understand why you consider a game is the worst just because of 300 spins without bonus round and 100 spins (double chance) without bonus rounds.
I played one of your favorite games few times (Merge Up by Bgaming), I experienced 200 spins with double chance but no bonus round as well.
I experienced the same thing in some other providers such as Pragmatic, Play n Go, Push Gaming, No Limit City etc
Even in Pragmatic Play and Play n Go which can be considered as providers with medium volatility and higher RTP than others, bad luck may come and we may experience no bonus round within few hundred spins.
On the other side, when the good luck comes, we may get few bonus rounds within few tens spins in high volatility slots.
Of course it is your own right to have such an opinion.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 05:07:06 AM
#60
I was supposed to disagree on this since I made huge wins multiple times on Hacksaw before but recently they started to become shitty provider again by being hard to hit anything even small win. I believe they manage to improve their slot games few months ago but now they are back to being a worst provider.

I definitely don’t recommend this provider to newbie or low bankroll players since even I with medium size bankroll can’t hit anything significant on this provider. I have experience too that I spend 500+ spin without hitting any bonus round or anything greater than x50 multiplier. This provider sucks!

That's why Hacksaw is the worst provider of all, I had +300 spins with no bonus and very few big wins. I also played with the "higher bonus chance" feature and did not hit the bonus round in +100 spins. I have been buying bonuses, and all I can say is a complete disaster….

I have said many times that I will never play Hacksaw again, but there comes a moment when something attracts me to try them one more time. I guess it's watching all those "max wins" on social networks, more and more I think they are all sponsored. Anyway, a few weeks back was the last time I decided to try Le Bandit... a total catastrophe! I was playing normal spins, buying bonuses, I even bought 2-3 "All that glitters is gold" bonuses... I ended with a busted bankroll after 20 minutes.
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February 20, 2024, 04:53:38 AM
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I think that if we see at statistics of all the providers I must admit the one provider who has given the max win more often is without a doubt Pragmatic Play.The other providers may have higher multipliers regarding their max win but surely won't be giving it as often as Pragmatic does.Of course I am talking in default RTP for all slot providers and not for some casinos who alter the RTP and we see something like 0 money during a bonus round in Pragmatic.

Yeah, that's a great point.

Is there any kind of standard for the amount of money paid by the probability of winning, or this number changes dramatically from machine to machine?

I wonder if there's any kind of standard that the casinos must publish. For example, what is the RTP you mention?
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February 20, 2024, 04:12:20 AM
#58
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round

Yeah, if you want to have some kind of benchmark, then you would have to look at statistics, and not a single person playing in a single machine.

The expected return of gambling is negative, that is, the more probable outcome is that you will lose money.

Having said that, it's still fun to gamble, so you could still have a good time and spend some money. And hey, you might have fun and win some extra money.

I think that if we see at statistics of all the providers I must admit the one provider who has given the max win more often is without a doubt Pragmatic Play.The other providers may have higher multipliers regarding their max win but surely won't be giving it as often as Pragmatic does.Of course I am talking in default RTP for all slot providers and not for some casinos who alter the RTP and we see something like 0 money during a bonus round in Pragmatic.
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February 20, 2024, 03:48:44 AM
#57
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round

Yeah, if you want to have some kind of benchmark, then you would have to look at statistics, and not a single person playing in a single machine.

The expected return of gambling is negative, that is, the more probable outcome is that you will lose money.

Having said that, it's still fun to gamble, so you could still have a good time and spend some money. And hey, you might have fun and win some extra money.
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February 18, 2024, 10:18:29 AM
#56
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But if you are really curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game then you can try by actually using the extra money you can afford to lose, this may seem very careless and too bold but it can give an answer to curiosity.
However, if it not possible then don't ever do it because money is also very valuable and can give you feeling of disappointment if everything fails and runs out without any left.
I also like slot games but it is much more possible to have fun when playing at provider of million people, Pragmatic gives us what we want.
Very low betting amounts and also the ease of getting multipliers or free spins, this is more fun and can make for much longer gaming session for just less money.

We just need to look for and use provider who can really provide the pleasure we need, don't force abilities but give regrets in the future.
No, I'm not curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game because I can't afford to use more money, especially if all the money I use will just run out before I can win. I should try to limit slot games and use other providers rather than having to spend more money. That's not feasible for me to do, especially since I'm still trying to reduce my gambling activities. And besides that, I don't want to experience the disappointment of losing a lot of money, and it would feel stupid for me because I can't limit myself to gambling. Pragmatic Play used to be able to give some money, but since there was an update that made it difficult for me to win some money, I left Pragmatic Play for a while.

Yes, by choosing the provider we want, we can enjoy the slot game and won't complain if we lose because it is our choice. Perhaps we can win some money someday, so we just need to limit the amount of money.
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February 18, 2024, 02:22:52 AM
#55
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round
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February 18, 2024, 01:23:29 AM
#54
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Most slot providers gear their slots to big gamblers as they do not care much for the small gamblers.Therefore any slot provider you will see that if you have a huge balance like 1000-2000 dollars will provide you more wins if played with 1 dollar bet rather than someone playing with 100 dollars and 0.20 as bet which is the min bet in many providers.So little gamblers should only try their luck by using IDR as currency and try the buy bonus.
That true, but indeed providers target rich gamblers because there will be much larger turnover of money, even when emotions arise, the betting loss can be very significant and clearly this is the profit that every slot game provider really wants.
However, what needs to be understood is that not all gamblers are people who have more wealth and can use more money in each game session, in gambling small gamblers also take control over percentage of the total number of existing gamblers.
Just look at games that provide small bets which are much more widely used and this can be found on almost all existing gambling sites.

That's the problem where I don't want to add more money to play slot games from Hacksaw because that will increase my losses even more. I should choose another slot game that doesn't require too much money to enjoy the slot game. Moreover, I only play slots in moderation and don't chase wins because getting wins from slot games is very difficult, regardless of the provider. And until now, I have rarely played slot games from the Hacksaw provider because winning is very difficult. I used to play slot games from Pragmatic Play often, but then I realized that slot games from that provider were also difficult to win. This slot game requires a larger amount of money than other gambling games, and because this is gambling, we have to be very careful in choosing the gambling game, not have too high hopes of winning, and just try to enjoy the game.

Slot games from each provider try to provide entertainment for gamblers, so we must realize that we should not try too hard to play them because everything depends on our luck. If we are lucky, we can definitely win, but if not, we will not be able to win, and most gamblers have already experienced defeat. And we should limit our slot games so that we don't experience more losses.
But if you are really curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game then you can try by actually using the extra money you can afford to lose, this may seem very careless and too bold but it can give an answer to curiosity.
However, if it not possible then don't ever do it because money is also very valuable and can give you feeling of disappointment if everything fails and runs out without any left.
I also like slot games but it is much more possible to have fun when playing at provider of million people, Pragmatic gives us what we want.
Very low betting amounts and also the ease of getting multipliers or free spins, this is more fun and can make for much longer gaming session for just less money.

We just need to look for and use provider who can really provide the pleasure we need, don't force abilities but give regrets in the future.
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