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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 16, 2024, 05:46:31 AM

Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever!

Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier Grin

. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.

There is no hard or easy thing if we talk about the chance to hit bonus, it is based on your luck 100%.
Even if you play in providers with low volatility and higher RTP, it does not give guarantee that it will give you bigger chance to hit bonus round.
I've played many different providers and all are mostly the same, sometime a provider could give me more bonus round but it could give no bonus round as well after several hundred spins.
Worst of best should not be based on our experience but it should be about how good is the UI, speed, features, etc.
If we consider a provider is the worst is because our experience especially just low experience, then I can say that all providers can be the worst.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on February 16, 2024, 04:16:31 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 09, 2023, 07:57:53 AM

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You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.

That's the problem where I don't want to add more money to play slot games from Hacksaw because that will increase my losses even more. I should choose another slot game that doesn't require too much money to enjoy the slot game. Moreover, I only play slots in moderation and don't chase wins because getting wins from slot games is very difficult, regardless of the provider. And until now, I have rarely played slot games from the Hacksaw provider because winning is very difficult. I used to play slot games from Pragmatic Play often, but then I realized that slot games from that provider were also difficult to win. This slot game requires a larger amount of money than other gambling games, and because this is gambling, we have to be very careful in choosing the gambling game, not have too high hopes of winning, and just try to enjoy the game.

Slot games from each provider try to provide entertainment for gamblers, so we must realize that we should not try too hard to play them because everything depends on our luck. If we are lucky, we can definitely win, but if not, we will not be able to win, and most gamblers have already experienced defeat. And we should limit our slot games so that we don't experience more losses.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 16, 2024, 05:46:31 AM

Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever!

Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier Grin

. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.

I was supposed to disagree on this since I made huge wins multiple times on Hacksaw before but recently they started to become shitty provider again by being hard to hit anything even small win. I believe they manage to improve their slot games few months ago but now they are back to being a worst provider.

I definitely don’t recommend this provider to newbie or low bankroll players since even I with medium size bankroll can’t hit anything significant on this provider. I have experience too that I spend 500+ spin without hitting any bonus round or anything greater than x50 multiplier. This provider sucks!

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I think it's hard to realize who should be blamed.
The odds and RTP, volatility, the game graphics, payout structure, multipliers etc. are all set by the company that makes the slots. Same goes for the randomness, seeds etc as the slots run in their server.
However, it's also partly the responsibility of the casino to disseminate this information to the players. For example, many casinos will not properly inform about the odds of winning or volatility.

I chose to play at casinos that display the most information possible about their games. Not showing house edge and RTP is not good yet it happens very often. The slots providers give these info to the casino but often the casino doesn't give it to the player. Ideally there should be even MORE information. Like showing which multiplier combinations are possible and how often they're hit each.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever!

Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier Grin

. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.

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It doesn't mean when games aren't working in your favour you say they are not good for others because there are lot of gamblers who's betting on those games you just mentioned and they are winning and also collecting the bonuses, even though it's not all the time but the winning rates and the losing rates might be the same or one of them will be more heavier than the other.
Moreover I haven't tried any of those games which you mentioned but as people are saying they are not working well for them I think it's just good to avoid them.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 16, 2024, 04:36:26 AM

I think that Hacksaw is very frustrating because the chances of winning, especially winning big, is much lower than the rest in OP's list of worst slot providers. I don't know the exact numbers or probabilities but it definitely is not just a feeling at this point. Its actually tangible. And looking at all the replies in this topic, most people seem to agree with that assessment. The slot provider should have included more bonuses, I think.

Some people here claim that while winning is rare, when you do win, you win big. I have not had such an experience yet, though.

Push also has low bonuses.

Although I think there are probably worse providers that are not in OP's list.

The provider with less max wins than most others is surely Play n Go.They are very well aware of such fact and that is why lately they are producing slots with x40.000 or more possible max win and now with such slots they tend to be in the same line of other providers that offer most of x10.000 max wins like Pragmatic or Hacksaw and x10000 is somewhat easier to get in a slot that the max win is x40000.

On another note on Hacksaw it is true that when you win you hit it huge.Just see at the number of people playing their most popular slot "Wanted dead or a wild" and how a big number of people have hit it huge there.

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I think that Hacksaw is very frustrating because the chances of winning, especially winning big, is much lower than the rest in OP's list of worst slot providers. I don't know the exact numbers or probabilities but it definitely is not just a feeling at this point. Its actually tangible. And looking at all the replies in this topic, most people seem to agree with that assessment. The slot provider should have included more bonuses, I think.

Some people here claim that while winning is rare, when you do win, you win big. I have not had such an experience yet, though.

Push also has low bonuses.

Although I think there are probably worse providers that are not in OP's list.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on February 16, 2024, 04:16:31 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 09, 2023, 07:57:53 AM

Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.

You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.

Most slot providers gear their slots to big gamblers as they do not care much for the small gamblers.Therefore any slot provider you will see that if you have a huge balance like 1000-2000 dollars will provide you more wins if played with 1 dollar bet rather than someone playing with 100 dollars and 0.20 as bet which is the min bet in many providers.So little gamblers should only try their luck by using IDR as currency and try the buy bonus.

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Quote from: maydna on December 09, 2023, 07:57:53 AM

Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.

You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.

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I don’t want to start a topic just to share my experience on a bad slot provider so I just want to drop my experience here to bump this thread and avoid multiple thread for same discussion.

I recently discovered a local online casino in my country using a mobile wallet app and I become gullible to try slot games from unknown providers. I want to specifically brought up here JILI and FA Chai provider since most of their slot games is bullshit and not even worthy to try. Most of their games offers only x1000 max win in average while the volatility is too high on this game which is very hard to win even small on normal spin.

I notice that this provider is already starting to spread even on big crypto casino here which I forgot the name. But beware on using this provider because it will just drain your bankroll hard without giving much return.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 08, 2023, 09:19:28 PM

Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever!

I will not argue with Hacksaw as from my own experience and yes the worst ever though this is just about the listed and our experiences but now about all of the Slot provider in the world and about the experience of others.

second to my list is No-Limit , similar problem with my friend that not even going with their fairplay , in which what needed in slot machines that we are not allow to see what is happening inside the machine but just the result is what given to us.

Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever!

I will not argue with Hacksaw as from my own experience and yes the worst ever though this is just about the listed and our experiences but now about all of the Slot provider in the world and about the experience of others.

second to my list is No-Limit , similar problem with my friend that not even going with their fairplay , in which what needed in slot machines that we are not allow to see what is happening inside the machine but just the result is what given to us.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on December 08, 2023, 06:44:48 PM

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I highly agree, it is best to compare their implemented features or how this games are presented. Because if we base the worst provider due to personal experience of losses, as stated, every provider will be the worst subjectively.

Slots game that have slow phase sucks. Because it only waste time due to its sluggish animation, and presentation. I like fast phase slots game because it saves us a lot of time whether we win a jackpot or emptied our bankroll, it can happen in a flash with fast phase slots game. This way, we only lose money if we are unlucky an not much of time consumption.

Yeah, it absolutely depends on what we are talking about to define best/worst.

Maybe the user experience is great, but there are not enough games, or maybe the games are fun but it's a pain to withdraw your money, etc.

There are many factors that would influence this. On top of personal wins/losses of course.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 04, 2023, 10:43:57 PM

So the "worst" here is based on our experience while playing the games and looking at the result we got? If it is so, all providers can be the worst because we will have our bad luck time when we do not get nice hit after so many spins. When the luck comes, the providers that we have labelled as worst can be good because we get nice hits frequently? I would prefer to say good or bad for slots game based on its UI, music theme, features, speed, etc. In this case I will say Betsoft as the worst because the game is slow, although there is quick spin mode but it does not speed up the game much. The features are also less compared to other providers such as game replay, buy bonus, etc.

I highly agree, it is best to compare their implemented features or how this games are presented. Because if we base the worst provider due to personal experience of losses, as stated, every provider will be the worst subjectively.

Slots game that have slow phase sucks. Because it only waste time due to its sluggish animation, and presentation. I like fast phase slots game because it saves us a lot of time whether we win a jackpot or emptied our bankroll, it can happen in a flash with fast phase slots game. This way, we only lose money if we are unlucky an not much of time consumption.

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To be honest, I'm not that dominant in exploring every slot game provider. However, because of my first introduction to Pragmatic playing slot games, I indirectly tend to prefer games from Pragmatic providers. although actually, I tried several times with other providers and just wanted to experience a different sensation. but because we tend to have habitual patterns, indirectly the initial game is what I tend to play.

Apart from that, there are many ups and downs in my experience from the Pragmatic game provider. When I'm unlucky, no matter what game I play, the result is the same. that is, lose quickly. or even within a week or more, I always experience defeat. I'm a little annoyed, but this is a slot game. and I'm sure the pattern is the same even though the providers are different. well, at least there is a slight difference.

But I can't deny that from playing Pragmatic, I've had some good shots. if I have experienced defeat for days, and vice versa. I was lucky to be given a win in a few days even though I had won the previous day. Not infrequently, I get Maxwin in several games. and this is what makes me rarely play from other providers. Although in reality, the slot option is still a side game of sports betting that I like more.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM

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I will not be surprised if someone's choice is another person's best slot provider.

It is normal that what is good for the goose may not also good for the gander. What is another man's poison is another man's food. If a particular slot Provider is generally not good it will be out of business because nobody will patronise them because of their general bad service.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 08, 2023, 12:49:00 PM

Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.

This is not a surprise anymore, they have a lower max multiplier and i also don’t know if you can even win on that game provider. Some gamblers are not looking for the provider as they want to gamble and play the slot machine as easy and fast as possible. Knowing what’s the best game provider can actually increase your chance of winning, especially if you choose the most generous provider on a good platform too.

i can say, pragmatic is indeed one of the popular providers out there but it doesn't mean they have very good features. with the OP's poll, maybe we can get some insights on which providers are better ones. or at least will give you better results. though we can't say, we will win on them, but at least the community sentiments will give us ideas on where to try our next slot session to.
though i can say, each game is different from the other players. but i guess, this is giving us how we feel on each provider as we played our games. there may be basis on why we said such assessment based mostly on experience and the values presented to the community, but in my opinion, just follow your gut feel. after all, this game is a luck-based game. but no harm done, if you will avoid those known worst slot providers. maybe you will be lucky trying the lesser evil among them... Grin

with the long list of slot providers these days, hard to choose now when you are in front of your games. i don't think a lot of gamblers are indeed having mindset on which provider to play before they even sit to start their session. usually, at least for me, i just play on random ones, or on where i am comfortable with already.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 08, 2023, 12:49:00 PM

Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.

The majority of users still prefer pragmatic games only because they are among the first that they learned about and because they do not pay attention to knowing the maximum profit and its conditions. I also consider Pragmatics to be one of the worst games, even though I am not a big fan of online games and prefer sports betting. But the few times I tried some of them were with Pragmatics games where I spent a large amount of money and had no luck winning anything. Lol

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 08, 2023, 12:49:00 PM

Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.

This is not a surprise anymore, they have a lower max multiplier and i also don’t know if you can even win on that game provider. Some gamblers are not looking for the provider as they want to gamble and play the slot machine as easy and fast as possible. Knowing what’s the best game provider can actually increase your chance of winning, especially if you choose the most generous provider on a good platform too.

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