Theymos Help a girl out my Bitcoin Talk account has been Hacked!!! - page 7.

achow101

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 12, 2016, 08:50:41 AM

Also I don't know if you read my first comment but how can you be 100% sure she didn't sell her account herself from a sockpuppet and now she's trying to get it back while keeping the BTC she received for it?
I'm not saying that's what she did, I'm actually fairly certain she's a victim here but you can't overlook this possibility.

This is the key problem. The admins can check the IP logs and see who has accessed the account and check if the IPs match, but even that is not definitive because people can use proxies and Tor. The account which sold it was also clearly a throwaway.

I also think this issue if further support for showing the user the IP addresses of recent logins to their accounts so that people can see if someone else has hacked their account but did not change the password.

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Regardless of whether or not the account buyer was tricked if the OP can actually prove that it is her account then the buyer should lose (they got tricked by the seller and that is not the fault of the original account owner).

If you are going to buy accounts on this forum then you should realise that it is very likely that you will be buying hacked accounts (as this forum doesn't care about trying to prevent this from occurring same as it doesn't try and prevent ponzis and altcoin scams which abound).

So if you decide to buy accounts on this forum and you get burned then I have zero sympathy for you (because you could have simply created a new account and waited for it to mature but decided you didn't want to bother with the only reason being "greed").

There is simply no "legit" reason to buy an account - create a new one and "do your time" (like I and most other more seasoned account holders did).

When I joined you had to go through "newbie jail" which they got rid of so I can't see any reason at all to be buying accounts. Would the buyer of the account in question care to justify why they should retain said account if it is proven to have been hacked?

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Quote from: ibminer on May 12, 2016, 08:20:39 AM

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Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 12:53:38 AM

Unfortunately I do not have access to any bitcoin addresses I have posted on my account and honestly I don't remember if I ever have. So I cant prove ownership that way so I hope my video and access to other accounts will prove its me. This is all a bad dream a really ,really horrible bad dream I want to wake up from lol. Please help a girl out!

~Cassie

Your cassieheart account appears to have done a btc/paypal transaction with JohnK back around September of 2013... it might be a long shot but maybe if you were able to sign a message from the address that JohnK sent your BTC to? You would obviously need JohnK to confirm the address he sent it to.

The issue is not so much about her proving it's her account, I'm fairly sure it's hers. The problem is that she is not the only one involved with this account, the buyer probably didn't know it was a hacked account when he bought it. You can't just take it from him after he paid money for it and give it back to her.
I've had a quick look at Cantoner's account and he looks like a legit buyer. It looks like he bought the account because he was interested in joining signature campaigns (I may be wrong).
What I'm trying to say is that a ruling must be fair. I feel sorry for Cassie but Cantoner also stands to lose from this.

If its her account she should get it back, participating in buying/selling accounts isn't a legit practice in my mind, so the buyer should expect to get scammed eventually. I have no heart for people buying accounts, especially for signature campaigns.
Unless cassieheart sold her account intentionally, she should get it back.

Lol it's not about what you think should be legit, it's about justice and fairness. If you think buying/selling accounts isn't a legit practice then you should pick a fight the Bitcointalk for allowing such practices in the first place. As far as I'm concerned they both look like victims and I don't think it's fair to compensate one victim at the expense of the other.

Also I don't know if you read my first comment but how can you be 100% sure she didn't sell her account herself from a sockpuppet and now she's trying to get it back while keeping the BTC she received for it?
I'm not saying that's what she did, I'm actually fairly certain she's a victim here but you can't overlook this possibility.

EDIT: Sorry about the second part, you already mentioned that, I misread your last line.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 12, 2016, 08:09:16 AM

Quote from: ibminer on May 12, 2016, 05:20:49 AM

Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 12:53:38 AM

Unfortunately I do not have access to any bitcoin addresses I have posted on my account and honestly I don't remember if I ever have. So I cant prove ownership that way so I hope my video and access to other accounts will prove its me. This is all a bad dream a really ,really horrible bad dream I want to wake up from lol. Please help a girl out!

~Cassie

Your cassieheart account appears to have done a btc/paypal transaction with JohnK back around September of 2013... it might be a long shot but maybe if you were able to sign a message from the address that JohnK sent your BTC to? You would obviously need JohnK to confirm the address he sent it to.

The issue is not so much about her proving it's her account, I'm fairly sure it's hers. The problem is that she is not the only one involved with this account, the buyer probably didn't know it was a hacked account when he bought it. You can't just take it from him after he paid money for it and give it back to her.
I've had a quick look at Cantoner's account and he looks like a legit buyer. It looks like he bought the account because he was interested in joining signature campaigns (I may be wrong).
What I'm trying to say is that a ruling must be fair. I feel sorry for Cassie but Cantoner also stands to lose from this.

If its her account she should get it back, participating in buying/selling accounts isn't a legit practice in my mind, so the buyer should expect to get scammed eventually. I have no heart for people buying accounts, especially for signature campaigns.
Unless cassieheart sold her account intentionally, she should get it back.

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Quote from: ibminer on May 12, 2016, 05:20:49 AM

Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 12:53:38 AM

Unfortunately I do not have access to any bitcoin addresses I have posted on my account and honestly I don't remember if I ever have. So I cant prove ownership that way so I hope my video and access to other accounts will prove its me. This is all a bad dream a really ,really horrible bad dream I want to wake up from lol. Please help a girl out!

~Cassie

Your cassieheart account appears to have done a btc/paypal transaction with JohnK back around September of 2013... it might be a long shot but maybe if you were able to sign a message from the address that JohnK sent your BTC to? You would obviously need JohnK to confirm the address he sent it to.

The issue is not so much about her proving it's her account, I'm fairly sure it's hers. The problem is that she is not the only one involved with this account, the buyer probably didn't know it was a hacked account when he bought it. You can't just take it from him after he paid money for it and give it back to her.
I've had a quick look at Cantoner's account and he looks like a legit buyer. It looks like he bought the account because he was interested in joining signature campaigns (I may be wrong).
What I'm trying to say is that a ruling must be fair. I feel sorry for Cassie but Cantoner also stands to lose from this.

ibminer

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Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 12:53:38 AM

Unfortunately I do not have access to any bitcoin addresses I have posted on my account and honestly I don't remember if I ever have. So I cant prove ownership that way so I hope my video and access to other accounts will prove its me. This is all a bad dream a really ,really horrible bad dream I want to wake up from lol. Please help a girl out!

~Cassie

Your cassieheart account appears to have done a btc/paypal transaction with JohnK back around September of 2013... it might be a long shot but maybe if you were able to sign a message from the address that JohnK sent your BTC to? You would obviously need JohnK to confirm the address he sent it to.

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Quote from: aarons6 on May 12, 2016, 03:30:58 AM

maybe im not reading this right, but the staked address that was signed on the 11th..

Quote from: cassieheart on May 11, 2016, 05:37:22 PM

1AM9zCKsA31LVMDMyqJEoFBSSRgAdUzHL3

Hi there this is cassieheart from bitcointalk and this is my staked adrress.May 2016.

H55Fl1vwlxujul3vZkFzeYQ9M3WbS6CN9OIb1e5vN1SvN8RXLsIfP/1HnKAU8L+Io4V1P21L2Y2ged9yhgm7nJI=

isnt the same one she had quoted before

Quote from: cassieheart on February 02, 2016, 08:16:39 AM

what is use of staking bitcoin address here
my address is
16K7dX8QWaxiuEcE9jpCF8ecSYdcWmLN7X

so if you sign that one i think all should be restored?

hmm doesnt look like either address has been used tho.. why would anyone stake an unused address..

Not an expert or anything but pretty sure they're different addresses.

Although, after watching her video I am convinced

she is telling the truth. But sadly the odds of getting this account back are against her for she can't provide any signed proofs. And rules are same for everyone, whether it be Craig Wright or a girl with pretty eyes. That rhymed slightly

aarons6

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maybe im not reading this right, but the staked address that was signed on the 11th..

Quote from: cassieheart on May 11, 2016, 05:37:22 PM

Code:

1AM9zCKsA31LVMDMyqJEoFBSSRgAdUzHL3

Hi there this is cassieheart from bitcointalk and this is my staked adrress.May 2016.

H55Fl1vwlxujul3vZkFzeYQ9M3WbS6CN9OIb1e5vN1SvN8RXLsIfP/1HnKAU8L+Io4V1P21L2Y2ged9yhgm7nJI=

isnt the same one she had quoted before

Quote from: cassieheart on February 02, 2016, 08:16:39 AM

what is use of staking bitcoin address here
my address is
16K7dX8QWaxiuEcE9jpCF8ecSYdcWmLN7X

so if you sign that one i think all should be restored?

hmm doesnt look like either address has been used tho.. why would anyone stake an unused address..

notaek

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Care to elaborate how the "accused" seller could sign a message from a staked address?

Yes I can understand he might have logged in to your account and staked that address.

How about signing it from one of your addresses:

Code:

1BBfFxeYerSaidBHArWY6cs7oZku9z2ejn
19HVKRumThxn3ixoYH17cbeJ7MUbnQhpyY
1M6tN6EvHpydFdrW6yRrDGHLuiVHknrsnG
1Nrr7NKkEKKX8MUH6YNVzRvsWQdF62Aykn
121X5fzVwNnCA3aHK6QDoF7hSDz6PSQU5d
1EsAugx5vYcVsSbCXnwqzpQNfRJtUAoa9r
16skaxusXUmMCWWKKTu237BdTEqvzdjZdN
1K3txYYf7XimPkD4th5hDUagd3WooDRoCC
13CmQfEFVgQH7ebnhALdJzFMiY3ZCKPi9k

Or you might sign from one of these addresses as well:

Code:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3886f8001eed15bd/addresses
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0aa5cfc6d54a6f61/addresses
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3a9386fbd5cc0dd0/addresses

Quote from: Boelens on May 12, 2016, 03:04:38 AM

Your youtube video does not mean anything lol

Yes, you need to provide a feasible digital signature as proof.
Currently those proofs won't convince theymos. For reference, click here.

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Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 02:36:28 AM

Really wtf how much more proof do I need lmfao?
If I really needed 0.075BTC or $33 USD don't you think I could come up with a easier way then this? Honestly ObscureBean thats insulting..

Quote from: ObscureBean on May 12, 2016, 01:59:20 AM

Sorry to hear you got hacked that's really shitty. But I don't think that it'll be possible for you to reclaim that account. Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just considering possible scenarios. Who's to say you didn't sell the account yourself and now that you have the Bitcoins, you're just trying to get the account back and keep the BTC? You see what I'm getting at? If that were to be the case then it wouldn't be fair on the buyer to have paid for the account and then having to return it without getting his money back. You'll need better proof before the mods will consider taking action.
I sincerely hope you get your account back if you're truly the victim here. Good luck.

I'm really sorry if I insulted you, that was not my intention. I didn't even consider the money involved here, I said what I said in the interest of fairness and logic. Surely you recognize the scenario I described above as a possibility, whether or not it is true in this particular case. And why a ruling in your favor would be unfair without sufficient evidence.

Boelens

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Your youtube video does not mean anything lol

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Quote from: realcassieheart on May 12, 2016, 02:45:02 AM

Yes I agree I didn't know till today it was allowed. It's dishonest and shady...

Quote from: aarons6 on May 12, 2016, 02:31:22 AM

i really dont understand why they allow the selling of accounts on this forum..
it really sets things up to be scammed easy.

yep found out the hard way.. its a thing that people buy accounts with good green trust and then use that trust to scam people..

realcassieheart

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Yes I agree I didn't know till today it was allowed. It's dishonest and shady...

Quote from: aarons6 on May 12, 2016, 02:31:22 AM

i really dont understand why they allow the selling of accounts on this forum..
it really sets things up to be scammed easy.

realcassieheart

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Really wtf how much more proof do I need lmfao?
If I really needed 0.075BTC or $33 USD don't you think I could come up with a easier way then this? Honestly ObscureBean thats insulting..

Quote from: ObscureBean on May 12, 2016, 01:59:20 AM

Sorry to hear you got hacked that's really shitty. But I don't think that it'll be possible for you to reclaim that account. Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just considering possible scenarios. Who's to say you didn't sell the account yourself and now that you have the Bitcoins, you're just trying to get the account back and keep the BTC? You see what I'm getting at? If that were to be the case then it wouldn't be fair on the buyer to have paid for the account and then having to return it without getting his money back. You'll need better proof before the mods will consider taking action.
I sincerely hope you get your account back if you're truly the victim here. Good luck.

aarons6

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i really dont understand why they allow the selling of accounts on this forum..
it really sets things up to be scammed easy.

ObscureBean

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Sorry to hear you got hacked that's really shitty. But I don't think that it'll be possible for you to reclaim that account. Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just considering possible scenarios. Who's to say you didn't sell the account yourself and now that you have the Bitcoins, you're just trying to get the account back and keep the BTC? You see what I'm getting at? If that were to be the case then it wouldn't be fair on the buyer to have paid for the account and then having to return it without getting his money back. You'll need better proof before the mods will consider taking action.
I sincerely hope you get your account back if you're truly the victim here. Good luck.

realcassieheart

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Here is my video proving I am Cassie Heart "https://www.youtube.com/embed/wnDQYqwto90"

I have also tweeted from my official twitter account to Bitcointalk here https://twitter.com/CassieHeart/status/730230681691901952

Yesterday I was unable to login to my account or recover my password from my email so I made this new account and posted in the newbies forum for help here. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14813303

A forum member by the name of knightdk almost immediately wrote me and said he had escrowed the sale of my account that it had been sold.So after I DM'ed him on twitter to prove it was me he gave me more information about the sale.

Quote from: cassieheart on February 02, 2016, 08:16:39 AM

Hi there i see you are online i had done everything right signed message from the adress staked,soo i believe will be hard for you recover this account,i dont wanna to hit or anything related to your business,there is several pm here i havent changed nothing,if you able to make the payment to recover your previous account let me know we can use escrow.When i bought this account i had used escrow soo we can use the same person and you get back your account and me my bitcoins spent as this account,let me know your opinion.

Unfortunately I do not have access to any bitcoin addresses I have posted on my account and honestly I don't remember if I ever have. So I cant prove ownership that way so I hope my video and access to other accounts will prove its me. This is all a bad dream a really ,really horrible bad dream I want to wake up from lol. Please help a girl out!

~Cassie

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