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Topic: Theymos is living the high life; BitcoinTalk is inaccessible without JavaScript - page 2. (Read 437 times)

legendary
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BitcoinTalk is ruled by an unelected criminal who sends BitcoinTalk to Cloudflare and spits on all of us while living the high life.
And yet, you're here. What makes you think Bitcointalk is a democracy? If you don't like it, just leave. There are millions of websites I don't like, but I'm not wasting my time telling them.

I'm okay with theymos as our benevolent dictator. Calling him a criminal requires evidence.

CloudFlare is a man-in-the-middle
Theymos agrees with you:
I really don't believe in willingly putting a man-in-the-middle in your HTTPS like this, but my homebrew DDoS mitigation has been one of my biggest time sinks for the last 6 months or so, and the necessary servers are still pretty expensive. If I had more manpower, then I would prioritize maintaining our own DDoS protection, but with me as the only sysadmin and current-software developer, it's become unsustainable.
full member
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Regrettably, BitcoinTalk is ruled by an unelected criminal who sends BitcoinTalk to Cloudflare and spits on all of us while living the high life.
You can assume anything. But without any proof, it holds no weight for others to comment.
newbie
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CloudFlare is a man-in-the-middle, and I believe it is extremely dangerous, especially when it denies access to websites without the website's owners' knowledge.


Is this not censorship?  Naturally, it is.
Consider this: some people, particularly on BitcoinTalk, prefer non-javascript solutions; however, CloudFlare will deny access to bitcointalk.org if you do not use JavaScript, which I find completely unacceptable.

With the funds raised from advertising, BitcoinTalk could easily run 13 name servers, each of which would have significant DDoS protection.
The same is true for hosting.

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Name Server: amy.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server: brad.ns.cloudflare.com
DNSSEC: unsigned

By the way, if BitcoinTalk worries so much about security, isn't signing the bitcointalk.org zone with DNSSEC would be a priority?


Update:
Blocking older HTTP versions used by botnets, such as 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2, as well as implementing other server-side features such as pushing resources and using TLS 1.3, would significantly reduce the success of any DDoS attack.
I'd even say it would make it nearly impossible.






legendary
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I'm not sure why you need CloudFlare when the profit from advertising is more than enough to rent entire serve racks.  Is BitcoinTalk's revenue being siphoned off?
That would also not surprise me.

It's to prevent DDoS attack.

It doesn't bother him that people who don't use JavaScript can't access BitcoinTalk.

And so most web owner in 2023. I don't expect anyone cares about user who don't use JS, unless they're government (such as https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2013/10/21/how-many-people-are-missing-out-on-javascript-enhancement/) or organization which specifically focus on easy accessibility/low barrier.
hero member
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I'm not sure why you need CloudFlare when the profit from advertising is more than enough to rent entire serve racks.  Is BitcoinTalk's revenue being siphoned off?
That would also not surprise me.
The implementation[1] of cloudflare is to fight with DDoS, that's why javascript is required, besides the forum doesn't serve ads anymore.
Also, read the reasons on the linked thread why he implemented cloudflare even though he hates it, also the reason why he didnt implement/maintain forum's own ddos protection.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moving-to-cloudflare-2485318
newbie
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While you can disable JavaScript, this will make quoting on BitcoinTalk impossible, and CloudFlare will force you to enable JavaScripts or deny you access to BitcoinTalk.

I'm not sure why you need CloudFlare when the profit from advertising is more than enough to rent entire serve racks.  Is BitcoinTalk's revenue being siphoned off?
That would also not surprise me.


Regrettably, BitcoinTalk is ruled by an unelected criminal who sends BitcoinTalk to Cloudflare and spits on all of us while living the high life.

It doesn't bother him that people who don't use JavaScript can't access BitcoinTalk.
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