Topic: @theymos It's time to make DT blacklist. - page 6. (Read 2291 times)

He is one the many many reasons DT is broken. the list is an orgy of fuckwads.

LOL this guy thinks people are blind

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=The%20Pharmacist

Go look at all his fans and recipients.... then look at their fans and recipients....


I mean then go to the DT list of includes excludes.....

These people are fucking morons if they think we do not see them all cycling their merits and supporting each other on DT

Imagine the top 20 they would all be there cycling merit round and round and round.

Out of 150k users imagine these bunch that turn up in every thread together if one is called out all infested on their fans and recipients and all including each other for DT.

LOL what collusion

Notice how the pharmacist is not discussing his proven sneaky greedy actions of using a sock puppet racist trolling sig spamming for extra btc dust. However just keeps trying to cast these FACT as trolling or conspiracy theories haha Please fool start realising this will not wash. People can see what is clearly happening here now and now that theymos got pushed into this 250 cycled merits crap everyone can see just how corrupt and broken the entire thing is.


So you have a bunch of people giving out merit to each other  so they can gain the key positions in the DT system and all vote for each other to be included in that.

So now those 2 systems of control and tied as 1 big control system that controls paid2post and trading. Whilst the people controlling it all have selfish motive to game it as they like for their own financial gain. Look at them all spamming their sigs everywhere.

And that's exactly why they're whining about it, claiming it's unfair and blah blah blah.  

Meanwhile, I'm more concerned about finding decent posts (especially from lower-ranked members) to give merits to.  Every time I take the plunge and visit Bitcoin Discussion looking for hidden gems I end up finding plagiarism or bought accounts instead.  This concerns me far more than this petty power struggle with the army of newbie trolls.  The only thing they're capable of doing is making a lot of noise and making fools out of themselves.

I keep hearing about how merits get circulated amongst the DT members.  Can anyone show me how I'm a part of that?  It's true I've given merits to some of them, but most of my earned merits didn't come from members like Lauda, LoyceV, Vod, or any of them.  Most of the sMerits I've given out haven't been to DT1 members.  I think in general this is an argument that's been debunked, and yet it keeps surfacing.

Funny, that's the argument TECSHARE keeps making--likely because if it were true he'd be back on DT, since he has done a lot of successful trades.  The truth is that this trust system isn't set up like eBay's and never was about just the marketplace.  I won't argue that the system is broken or that successful trades and being able to trust someone with money ought to be rewarded with positive trust.  At the same time, some individuals who can be trusted with money might themselves abuse the trust system (TECSHARE) and thus might not be fit to be on DT.  True story.

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Yeah, and look at the total number of merits I've given to and received from the DT members.  They represent a small fraction of the merits I've earned and the ones I've given out.  Sorry I peeped at your post, but obviously you're trying to make it look like I give most of my sMerits to DT members and get most of my earned merits from them.  That isn't true by a long shot, kiddo.

The trust system is and will always be BROKEN.  If you put a few names on the so called "Trust" list and let them go wild with their own assumptions and allegations people will suffer.

I would not trust a single Fucker on the trust list with a $1  That is what trust is all about.

It was meant for the Market place...Not for spammers and Account buyers or for anything else.

Get rid of it. You can't fix Stupid.

Scammers? err please remain just a moron and not a liar now also. Prove I have scammed anyone ever.

Whilst I can prove DT members are liars, trust abusers and sneaky sock puppet racist trolling sig spammers.

I have proof you have nothing.

DT exclusions right now are like endorsements for being honest. Calling me a scammer is ludicrous.

You olieoe are the untrustworthy one for supporting proven liars and self confessed trust abusers.

Actually you are just a noob fool who has zero clue about most things here. Just another sig spammer gaming the system for your own ends.

Not at all. I'm just watching the whole thing with some mild amusement.

These trolls will get nowhere. To get someone voted on to DT1, they need votes from 2 members with 250 merit each, amongst other things. These trolls currently spamming Meta and Reputation don't have 250 merit between them, let alone on one account, doubly let alone on two accounts. Even if they bought enough merit (because lets be fair, they are never going to earn enough) to give them enough voting power to get one of them to meet the DT1 criteria, that person would probably be excluded long before theymos recalculated the list. cryptohunter, for example, already has 11 DT1 exclusions.

This is before any of it even reaches theymos, who, as LoyceV has pointed out, would step in if these scammers somehow did achieve all this.

Theymos is really a department in the IMF, and it has the responsibility of controlling the second phase of Bitcoin, Satoshi was another department, and it was disbanded once the genesis block was laid. The whole thing was predicted in the names of the books of the Old Testament.

Genesis - Satoshi laid the first block and collected 1 million Bitcoin
Exodus - All of the disciples who created Bitcoin leave as wealthy men, or disillusioned posters.
Leviticus - The rise of the bankers.
Numbers - Gaining control of mining. This stage is only just starting with the confiscation of mining rigs that are imported into Iran, once the US gains control of Iran, they can use the oil and the mining rigs to take control of the Bitcoin network
Deuteronomy - The farewell address as the controlling elite enter the land of silk and money.

I'll let you guys finish this  post, as I don't want to get into the "Judges" bit.

Am I the only one who doesn't really worry about this just yet?

Theymos said this:

Don't forget: the DT1-update isn't automated yet, theymos has to manually run it. I can only assume he'll check for extreme abuse before pushing the update live.

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This seems like a good place to promote [New and Updated] LoyceV's Trust list viewer (updated weekly).

You see this is the problem with people like the pharmacist. He tries to set terms like "whining" "screaming" "trolling"

Actually he does not want the presentation of facts that demonstrate clearly he himself is so greedy and sneaky he set up a sock puppet racist trolling account called Huge Black Woman to sig spam for more btc dust. He got busted because he was trying to get to a better paid sig campaign for his sneaky sig spamming racist sock puppet account. Whilst if you notice a lot of his posts are addressing the problem of "financially motivated posters"

Sorry that is not trolling, whining, screaming. That is the presentation of fact that demonstrates how greedy and sneaky and untrustworthy these people really are.

Other FACTS like lauda is a proven liar, or TMAN Admits in black and white he gives red trust to people presenting facts about wrongdoing and untrustworthy behaviour. That is not trolling, whining, screaming. That is the presentation of facts.

Want evidence. Just ask.


Theb - The merit requirement of 250 earned merits is not the good thing. It is the most damaging thing theymos has done yet to this board. He has given total control of both systems of control here to the same gang of colluders and scum bags.

The fact you believe this is a good thing to make collusion and centralised control easier tells me you have learned nothing since you have been here.  Those 2 systems of control should have been separated and given strict criteria.

The mere fact you think this is a good idea is ludicrous and proves to me

1. you have not examined the evidence regarding the people that are on Dt1 and dt2
2. you have idea what the 250 earned merits threshold does.

I take exception to that comment. An ICO ( Identified Cat Object ) is far superior.

The good thing about the DT system right now is the merit requirement that comes with it, this system until now is fending off the removal of members deserving to be in the DT list. Most of the voters ganging up don't even have the leverage of merit right now to remove a DT members. And even if they succeed on having a DT member of their own a lot of members in the DT list can quickly put them on their distrust list which would quickly remove them, that is why you will see a lot of names crossed-out from the trust list page.

It's funny how they use their reference links and it will just redirect to the ANN Thread of the scam coin you have busted, as if it will prove that you are deserving to receive their negative feedback. But the truth is they are just incriminating themselves more of what they are doing.

Which level of DT are we talking about here?  DT1?  It gets confusing these days. 

Some DT1 members don't jump into the drama because they likely know it's a never-ending fight and it's more or less just wasted energy to keep engaging in the troll wars.  Even if their ratings are fair (or more fair than others), the people on the other side of the fence will never see them as such, because it's just a battle for power and no one is prepared to give up an inch of ground.  This whole situation is just silly.  Theymos set the criteria for getting onto DT1.  I didn't fight to get on it.  Lauda wasn't even on DT2 at the time, nor was TMAN and some of the others. 

As far as the trust lists and "votes" DT1 members have cast, I'm not seeing where this grand conspiracy is coming from--maybe because I'm not in the loop, but who knows.  But those who are yelling the loudest about how unfair it all is (cryptohunter, Thule, etc.) will never stand a chance of getting on to even DT2.  All they do is whine and scream, while the rest of the upstanding DT1/2 members are actually trying to fix some of the problems bitcointalk has, i.e., finding scammers, account dealers, and all the other stuff that landed them on DT in the first place.

Well let's examine the FACTS

1. lauda is a proven liar.
2. Lauda is a proven trust abuser
3. so are his buddies from the extortion scheme undercover agents attempt tman and owlcatz
4. People supporting proven liars, trust abusers and such are the real scum bags
5. If you are supporting lauda or anyone else on DT that evidence can be produced to demonstrate they are untrustworthy you are a scumbag.

Next

Look on Bpip.org
Go to the DT trust list and watch who includes/excludes who on DT1 (wish we could see DT2 also)

Start hunting around on the receivers and fans of each of these scum suckers, their merit is all cycled around amongst these colluding scum bags

Those are the facts. The scumbags you refer to are not scumbags they are people that are sick of the open collusion of this gang and also mostly people that have received red trust for grey areas (not rule breaking) and far less untrustworthy that proven liars, trust abusers and sneaky greedy  sock puppet racist trolling sig spammers.

Starting to understand now?

For once though Tman the imbecile has correctly noticed theymos just broke the entire system by being pushed into 250 earned merits threshold - - which sadly the real bunch of colluding scum make sure they cycle only to those they can pull on side.  Needing 2 persons with 250 earned merits (subjective, misleading, cycled junk, meaningless in suchmoons own words) now pushed control of both systems of control firmly into the hands of individuals that are are proven liars, and system abusers or those that kiss up to them hoping to join their gang.

These are simply facts and once you dig down and start looking at the same crew that show up to every thread to all back each other up and merit each other over and over again. Look at who they predominantly cycle their merits around to and who they include exclude on DT. There is no sensible person here that is not either an asslicker or an imbecile that can not clearly see what is happening. Theymos is actually either unable to see the terrible flaws of being pushed to the 250 earned merits from 2 persons.. or is fully aware and for some reason wishes to see the board dominated by a bunch of  PROVEN liars, trust abusers, greedy sneaky sock puppet racist sig spammers and their supporters. Perhaps the entire thing is a honey pot for these people. Who can say.

There is no other sensible explanation.

I think we actually have that in rule of DT1 selection,right?

So all the people who got selected for DT1 will go through selection process by admin and there is no need to make that blacklist pubic.

Members can add whomever they like to their trust list. DT and trust manipulation have been in play for ages and sometimes publicly. Having read the thread, what is going on there is no different from what some more experienced members have been doing, albeit in a brazen manner. They are bound to fail unless it catches on.

It is also worth noting that the posters on that thread more or less have grudges against certain DT members. Nonetheless, after reading their ratings, what struck me was that none of them actually stole from other members. Their ratings for, and against, seem more like smear than anything else.

If DT members can stick to busting real scams and attempted scams rather than leave negative ratings to people with opinions they don’t like, these dramas will stop and the forum would a better place. I often wonder why some DT members are never part of these endless rows, could it be because their ratings are seen as fair?

The system was centralized if Theymos was the only one deciding who was on DT.
The system will also be centralized if Theymos will decide who doesn't belong there.

Let's exclude for a moment the fact that the ones voting for a scammer are also scammers and they have pushed him through abuse on DT, the fact that somebody can block their action while ignoring others makes it is centralized, just like in the case of centralized coins where payments can be reversed or tokens blocked.

Not that it would be a bad idea to have an emergency nuke button in case the clones win the war but it will still give the system a centralized flavor.

And this claim you made based on what ?

Diffrent as you punk i'm not on BCT for months but since 2012.7 years passed and who did i scammed ?

I don't know why you beleive that DT blacklist would make the trust system centralized. In new DT system there's been option for excluding someone from the DT list. But i think you haven't visit the thread link yet where a combine group of untruthworthy users are trying to remove lauda from DT1 list to fullfill their future scam dream.

Whatever it is i beleive its just not an attempt to remove someone specially, its an combined attack to manipulate the whole DT system.

Trying hard of what ?I clearly mentioned several times i have no intention in getting a DT.All i care is that DT abusers will leave that group.
So try again to discredit me with false claims seems your major repetroir

As any other member, they have the right to choose whom to trust. That's the whole point of the new trust system. 

Let them try, I doubt they can make a change... they have no weight.