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Topic: Theymos Uneasy about Advertising for Bitmixer.io.. - page 2. (Read 4535 times)

hero member
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Does it matter? Its his forum and his liability, he's free to choose what he allows or doesn't in terms of advertising. He doesn't need a concrete reason.

except it's not his forum.
legendary
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That logic doesn't really make sense. Mixing bitcoins isn't illegal but probably most of the unregulated exchanges and casinos that advertise here likely are.

In agreement with H@C, I've seen advertisements for a variety of sites here over the years including BFL with all those defective non deliverable products a mixing service seems like an ok site to advertise, in terms of risk from outside perceptions looking at the forum would say its negligible myself as changing coins is not illegal or regulated at this point in time and scammers probably are already aware of it if worried about the negative side of it.
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I'm still waiting for the clear answer https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9785947
Hi, theymos.
I just want to figure why you don't accept our ads.
The privacy - is a basic human right, isn't it? We do nothing criminal. We just guard privacy. It is absolutely normal if someone won't to share all his previous and further transactions with a (for example) seller who knows his home address. Especially if he owns a big amount of bitcoins.
There are many companies works in the area of privacy. This one for example.

I want to understand your position clearly. Is it you own fear, or you have a directive from any government authority?

Come on, theymos. I always considered bitcointalk as a free forum of free currency.
btw, our ads is showing in google network (try to search 'bitcoin mixer', you'll see our banner), I don't see reasons why you can't place it too. Hope you change your mind.
Thank you.
legendary
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I can only imagine that it's something personal. Theymos has accepted ads for outright ponzi schemes before, betcoin.tm is known for faking stats and I'm sure anyone that looks at ads can name more examples of websites that look more shady that bitmixer.
legendary
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Bump. The least you can do theymos is reply..
I've barked up that tree at least once about a reply on another post, don't recall if it was ever actually addressed but it was about how he has been sitting on a few k BTC in donations that were supposed to be used for site upgrade which don't seem to be getting done. All though some would argue they are, but in the background where we can't see. While that very well may be true for some items.

How long have Avatars been a no go now lol

Grant it when a lot of those donations were made BTC was low in value so to get certain perks one had to donate a few BTC but the issue with that was / is just how long he's had the funds with not much to show for it at present time.

Sorry for the off topic but the point is theymos will only reply if he feels he needs to, or I should say wants to.

Anyway, back to being on topic, what I don't get is if Theymos really has an issue with them. Then why even allow them on the site anyway because like I said before, he is pretty much letting them advertise for free with their sig campaign. The only difference being the placement of the ads compared to the sigs shown for the campaign.

Advertising is advertising whether it's between every three posts or a shit ton of peoples signatures.
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The terms states that he can reject bids and he rejected a bid from questionable entity. I think he is being prudent, nothing wrong with that.
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Bump. The least you can do theymos is reply..
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That is weird as theymos did accept advertisement for ponzi in the past, and a mixer should at least be more ethical and lawful than a ponzi.
tss
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is this a discussion of legality or scammer ethics?  

whats legal in your country is not legal in mine.. ie all of these casinos.


ohh.  edit.  on the subject of scammer accusations and the like. not too many drug dealers go to the cops when they get robbed.
legendary
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Technically theymos is already allowing them to advertise for free by allowing a signature campaign from them. The difference is where the ads, or in the namesake of the campaign, sigs are shown so to me this is just a bunch of nothing.
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Does it matter? Its his forum and his liability, he's free to choose what he allows or doesn't in terms of advertising. He doesn't need a concrete reason.

True, but people are also free to ask questions regarding the decision (whether theymos chooses to respond or not). I think denying bids is always going to raise intrigue and curiosity as to why, especially when the company doesn't appear to be doing anything wrong (that we know of) and there's much more questionable ads that get accepted without any problems. I'd personally like to know why they were rejected but theymos is under no obligation to provide any reasoning if he doesn't want to, like you say.
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Quite interesting. I don't particularly trust bitmixer.io either, but I haven't seen any scam accusations against them and they've been around for a while. I really wonder why he refused the bid.
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I guess it is in his own personal discretion why he chose not to accept that bid.

Perhaps it relates to the recent subpoena?
I would say this is probably correct. The lack of him knowing their identity (and the high chances that they use tor to connect to the forum) probably makes him less willing to allow them to advertise, as if they scam he could potentially be blamed and/or said that he is behind the scam.

Does it matter? Its his forum and his liability, he's free to choose what he allows or doesn't in terms of advertising. He doesn't need a concrete reason.

Annnnnd we're back to pre-bitcoin times, centralisation.

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This is a centralized forum. It is not realistic to have a decentralized forum. The closest thing to a decentralized forum is reddit and it is very easy to manipulate upvotting/downvoting

That logic doesn't really make sense. Mixing bitcoins isn't illegal but probably most of the unregulated exchanges and casinos that advertise here likely are.
The casinos at least try to prevent people residing in places where gambling is illegal from gambling. It is not illegal to advertise a casino in places where gambling is illegal as long as the casino does not allow them to gamble
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I guess it is in his own personal discretion why he chose not to accept that bid.

Perhaps it relates to the recent subpoena?
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Never asked for a concrete reason, just an explanation as to why he refuses them and not other proven scams.
Judging on Theymos original response, he doesn't want to disclose to the public why he doesn't want this particular service advertised. You can always send a message to him regarding the matter, but don't expect to get a response.
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Does it matter? Its his forum and his liability, he's free to choose what he allows or doesn't in terms of advertising. He doesn't need a concrete reason.

Annnnnd we're back to pre-bitcoin times, centralisation.

Never asked for a concrete reason, just an explanation as to why he refuses them and not other proven scams.
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Does it matter? Its his forum and his liability, he's free to choose what he allows or doesn't in terms of advertising. He doesn't need a concrete reason.
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That logic doesn't really make sense. Mixing bitcoins isn't illegal but probably most of the unregulated exchanges and casinos that advertise here likely are.
He probably knows something about bitmixer that is not public.

There has been a lot more scrutiny against Bitcoin related companies since he accepted ad money from BFL so he is probably more conservative about who he will show an ad for now. 
legendary
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That logic doesn't really make sense. Mixing bitcoins isn't illegal but probably most of the unregulated exchanges and casinos that advertise here likely are.

Some casinos even have scam accusations out against them.
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That logic doesn't really make sense. Mixing bitcoins isn't illegal but probably most of the unregulated exchanges and casinos that advertise here likely are.
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