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Topic: Thin (!) strategy to earn more Merit - Drama Queen (aka alia) busted Finally!!! - page 2. (Read 1071 times)

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When nullius is really going at it, his posts are so good they become harder to understand for non-native English speakers
You nailed it on the head, bro.  No-reading-required shitposters have very limited English vocabularies, so I think a lot of what nullius writes sails right over their unwashed heads most of the time.  They certainly can't appreciate why exactly it is that he's gotten so much merit.

I've given out merits to a lot of different users here, and not just to those who are higher ranked.  In fact, I've made it a point to limit the number of merits I give out to legendary members, since they don't really "need" them.  The problem is, and always has been, that bitcointalk is flooded with noob shitposters who don't understand English and don't put any thought into their posts.  The good posts--often by Hero/Legendary members, get silenced amid the roar of garbage posts.  So if it seems like noobs aren't getting a lot of merit, it's true; they're not.  They are in general the least deserving of it, IMO
I agree with what you pointed out, Pharmacist. Newcome users should try improving their English skills first, reading and writing skills in particular. The simple reason is if they can not understand what they read in the forum, they can not discuss, help other users for sure. Writing skill is important when they want to express their original ideas into words, phrases, sentences.
I have seen lots of users in the forum (mostly came from Newbies and Junior Members) posted broken-English threads. I am not sure they came from spammers, who usually using Google translate for their daily boring works; but mostly came from them.
I also hope that merit system will completely eliminate those users out of the forum forever.




legendary
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Merit: 6981
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When nullius is really going at it, his posts are so good they become harder to understand for non-native English speakers
You nailed it on the head, bro.  No-reading-required shitposters have very limited English vocabularies, so I think a lot of what nullius writes sails right over their unwashed heads most of the time.  They certainly can't appreciate why exactly it is that he's gotten so much merit.

I've given out merits to a lot of different users here, and not just to those who are higher ranked.  In fact, I've made it a point to limit the number of merits I give out to legendary members, since they don't really "need" them.  The problem is, and always has been, that bitcointalk is flooded with noob shitposters who don't understand English and don't put any thought into their posts.  The good posts--often by Hero/Legendary members, get silenced amid the roar of garbage posts.  So if it seems like noobs aren't getting a lot of merit, it's true; they're not.  They are in general the least deserving of it, IMO
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 115
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I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

My bad I ignored you  Grin

I have no problem of someone giving and receiving merits certainly merits and sMerits are for giving and receiving. The sole purpose of this merit system is to credit the content creator and help the community to build stronger. Since we have limited merit source and infinite number of lower ranked members, it's really a luxury to send total of 23 merits 21 times to only one person.

Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.
- Yes I know it obviously.

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the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.
I think you're overthinking this. To receive Merit, you need two things: quality posts, and someone with sMerit has to read your posts. Both nullius and alia have good posts, they both have sMerit to give, and they're reading each other's posts because they like reading them.
-I guess I need to rephrase it then ...  Grin
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Keep good relationship with higher ranked members, try your best to post some quality posts and always remember those higher ranked members, sMerits will come on your way.
Keep good relationship with someone has sMerit and post quality.


I guess for two persons, giving merits should have a limit and also receiving merits should have a limit or the same two user can give and receive merits from each others for infinite times. Someone with having a bad intention can easily take this advantage.

I also think sending sMerit in one transaction (one go i mean) should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.

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That's BlackJack, right?
-Yes it is  Tongue The user writes really too long and has super energy.

You seem to have forgotten that merit between two people cannot be given infinitely, because merit is scarce. Let's say nullius and I have 10 merit points and 5 sMerits each. Sure, he can bump mine up to 15, and I can do that for him, but that does not mean that such a thing can continue forever. The only way to make it sustainable is for us to continue making good posts, and to continue giving merit. There's no trade-off happening which you cannot see - I send merits to meritorious posts, and he does the same. Get your tinfoil hat off.
legendary
Activity: 4536
Merit: 3188
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I really did not expect to find anything at all. To me, it was just a pattern when I saw you have sent 6 times merit to the same person https://prnt.sc/ijjfox
The only pattern is that some people, unlike most of the shitposters on this forum, are capable of making multiple meritorious posts (there are currently 15 people who have each had multiple posts merited by me; alia isn't alone in that respect). Those same people also tend to receive merit from multiple senders, since most people who have sMerit to spend tend to agree on what kinds of posts deserve merit.

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I also doubt you'll get very far by sucking up to the top merit senders (I can tell you it won't get you anywhere with me).

- This is really what I do not like about merit system. You are literally saying receiving merit for my content is favour from you! Don't you think I should receive merits for my contents not to make you happy since you are merit sender? This is abusive in my opinion.
No, I am literally saying the exact opposite. If you want merit, you'll have to make posts that are worthy of merit, same as everybody else. You won't receive it as a favour, at least not from me.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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Did you just call yourself a merit whore?



- nah! How many times I have to confess that I meant this   Roll Eyes
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup
I'm not really sure what you expected to find

I really did not expect to find anything at all. To me, it was just a pattern when I saw you have sent 6 times merit to the same person https://prnt.sc/ijjfox

I really do not expect to find anything from nullius as well. It's just 21 times sending merits to the same person seems odd to me on top of it receiving 20 merits from the same person you gave 23 merits can bring up two reasons...

1. You are intentionally exchanging merits to each others. More correctly I will say, you are liking each others contents so much that you took this merit points to favour each others. There are other people on the forum giving their best deserves your sMerits.
2. Both account owned by same person. I don't think this will be really the real case coz both alia and nullius are creating good contents. For one person it's really impossible managing multiple accounts with providing good contents.

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I also doubt you'll get very far by sucking up to the top merit senders (I can tell you it won't get you anywhere with me).

- This is really what I do not like about merit system. You are literally saying receiving merit for my content is favour from you! Don't you think I should receive merits for my contents not to make you happy since you are merit sender? This is abusive in my opinion.

By the way it's a good advice though, I wish I hear you.  Smiley
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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

Did you just call yourself a merit whore?

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.
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Find one post that was a good essay and was merited but shouldn't be.

50 is the limit per user per month. You can send 50 in one piece or smaller chunks.
At the moment 50 Merits are mainly used by people abusing the merit system, but that will end once everybody runs out of free merit.

Actually, I don't mind seeing 50 merits to be given (merit stats). It gives me something to do, and that's catching merit system abusers.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 4536
Merit: 3188
Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup
Of course not. I don't play favourites. I'm not really sure what you expected to find, but you should note that everyone who sent merit to alia more than once is on the list of top 50 merit senders, so it's simply a case of someone receiving more merits from people who send more merits, which isn't even a conclusion worth stating. I also doubt you'll get very far by sucking up to the top merit senders (I can tell you it won't get you anywhere with me).
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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I also think sending sMerit in one transaction should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.
50 is the limit per user per month. You can send 50 in one piece or smaller chunks.
At the moment 50 Merits are mainly used by people abusing the merit system, but that will end once everybody runs out of free merit.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

My bad I ignored you  Grin

I have no problem of someone giving and receiving merits certainly merits and sMerits are for giving and receiving. The sole purpose of this merit system is to credit the content creator and help the community to build stronger. Since we have limited merit source and infinite number of lower ranked members, it's really a luxury to send total of 23 merits 21 times to only one person.

Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.
- Yes I know it obviously.

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the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.
I think you're overthinking this. To receive Merit, you need two things: quality posts, and someone with sMerit has to read your posts. Both nullius and alia have good posts, they both have sMerit to give, and they're reading each other's posts because they like reading them.
-I guess I need to rephrase it then ...  Grin
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Keep good relationship with higher ranked members, try your best to post some quality posts and always remember those higher ranked members, sMerits will come on your way.
Keep good relationship with someone has sMerit and post quality.


I guess for two persons, giving merits should have a limit and also receiving merits should have a limit or the same two user can give and receive merits from each others for infinite times. Someone with having a bad intention can easily take this advantage.

I also think sending sMerit in one transaction (one go i mean) should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.

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That's BlackJack, right?
-Yes it is  Tongue The user writes really too long and has super energy.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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I was more interested to see whats going on with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup since they have given the sMerits 21, 2 and 6 times respectively (I ignored 3 times from LoyceV and 2 times from The Pharmacist coz it's too much to do).
I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.

He doesn't just write essays, he writes good essays. Find any reasonable member who thinks his essays are not good, and I'll owe you a BJ.
When nullius is really going at it, his posts are so good they become harder to understand for non-native English speakers like myself. I keep looking up words I've never seen before!
That's BlackJack, right?
jr. member
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Hey man, that's extraordinary evidence right there!
oh sheet! are you guys somewhat related in real life? or alia = nullius?! come on tell the truth!

If I had that amount of cryptographic knowledge, I'd be making a hundred mil' off an ICO easy, not busting my ass off in college xD
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- I already explained it in here. I think you missed it.

Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- Not virus to be honest. It was coinhive a kind of link shortener (like google URL shortener) which helps to min XMR from the shorted link when user visits your targeted link. I already said I removed it.
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Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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Extra ordinary finding!!!
I hope it's not what I am thinking  Grin
However this is a great coincidence  Shocked
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 197
Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

- sorry my bad, just removed it.

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2727730

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy

- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc



just documenting that you admitted to attempting to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
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Activity: 350
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Hey man, that's extraordinary evidence right there!
oh sheet! are you guys somewhat related in real life? or alia = nullius?! come on tell the truth!
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 115
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jr. member
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1. Believe it or not, it is actually possible for a one-sentence post to be meritorious. I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day.
- I believe you. Sometimes one-word could be meritorious if that hits the cause. By the way how come you say I am not capable of such posts LOL. Ain't trying to prove too much?

2. Your Coinhive link is a bit fucked up, it made my laptop heat up a lot. Please remove that, as it is 100x more unethical than what you accuse me of doing.
-Apology and removed it already. So you are saying you are doing unethical stuffs? Don't get me wrong, you are not doing anything unethical you are just taking the benefit of the system in a smart way.

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.

4. Humans are subjective creatures - I am not a merit source, I am a person, so if I like a post and find it to be informative/well-written, I will award it merit. I find most of nullius's posts to be both informative and well-written; a rarity on this forum.
- I have nothing to say for this 16 merits you sent https://prnt.sc/ijhtz4 (16! come on!! Didn't I say that somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing long essay then you are a good writer)

I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.
- Thank you for the advice I hope you will take some times and try to read some of my past posts. Again my apology for the link shortening which I already removed.

He doesn't just write essays, he writes good essays. Find any reasonable member who thinks his essays are not good, and I'll owe you a BJ.
legendary
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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

No, if you think begging is the way to receive merit, then you have completely misunderstood its point.
- I guess you misjudged my humour  Grin I was teasing you when I said so. I completely understand why the merit system introduced at the first place and I am doing my best to play according to the game.
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