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Topic: Thin (!) strategy to earn more Merit - Drama Queen (aka alia) busted Finally!!! (Read 1071 times)

copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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You've done nothing wrong, but it appears that you don't have a coterie, so merit will take it's own time; also don't slip up carelessly; people out here are far too jealous to digest an objective honest review. They'll neg you without thinking twice and then call you all sorts of name to avoid reasonable arguments, while they wouldn't even criticize far worse actions by people who are in their pack.
Remember, probity is the best wisdom, but it rarely does the individual any good.

Thanks mate for all these kind words. I believe in my decency. I also realise that most of the time the odds can be against me. But it does not matter however I do take extra care. This is why I always believe in 2nd chance . It's a risky business to be dutiful to a community by being really ethical, those who will not agree with you they will attack you always with whatever they can. They will try to stop you. But I have nothing to lose here. I want to do something good for the community.

I love the concept of decentralisation and Blockchain.
full member
Activity: 952
Merit: 166
Dude you should be focused on yourself and stop trying to figure out why some peeps are getting more merits than others as people give merits based on how moved they are by a given post. You can't tell people whom they should or shouldn't merit. It's their merit and entitled to their gifting. The merit system is flawed and I think you can't do much about it.

What am I doing wrong?

Clearly merit farming/trading is happening.
mdayonliner's Red Trust removal T&C
My steps to deal with the merit users
Merit hole and 3 fixes might work (Worth looking)

All I am doing is, trying to be a dutiful and loyal member of the community.

You've done nothing wrong, but it appears that you don't have a coterie, so merit will take it's own time; also don't slip up carelessly; people out here are far too jealous to digest an objective honest review. They'll neg you without thinking twice and then call you all sorts of name to avoid reasonable arguments, while they wouldn't even criticize far worse actions by people who are in their pack.
Remember, probity is the best wisdom, but it rarely does the individual any good.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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While I understand why you are upset with someone cheating, aren't there more important things going on with this forum? How is this getting so much prime attention when hundreds of millions of dollars worth of scams have gone through this forum with people being ripped off every day.
- I am not sure if there are any requirements of being 18 and 18+ to join this forum. If not then there should be. If you do not spend your money with responsibility then what can other do? You are an adult and you live with the choice you make.

PS: Merit is a big deal for this forum. I'm sure you are missing something here.
Please read: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
A lot of you seem to want to red trust people for abusing merit.

I did my research on "trust" for this forum. It seems very important. Merit, however, does not seem very important.

It appears to me that someone who had multiple accounts (and who made tons of posts with those accounts), was trying to add to his merit and now you want to bust him.

While I understand why you are upset with someone cheating, aren't there more important things going on with this forum? How is this getting so much prime attention when hundreds of millions of dollars worth of scams have gone through this forum with people being ripped off every day.

There are so many of these threads in "Meta". So many wannabe FBI agents up in here.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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Dude you should be focused on yourself and stop trying to figure out why some peeps are getting more merits than others as people give merits based on how moved they are by a given post. You can't tell people whom they should or shouldn't merit. It's their merit and entitled to their gifting. The merit system is flawed and I think you can't do much about it.

What am I doing wrong?

Clearly merit farming/trading is happening.
mdayonliner's Red Trust removal T&C
My steps to deal with the merit users
Merit hole and 3 fixes might work (Worth looking)

All I am doing is, trying to be a dutiful and loyal member of the community.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 105
APESWAP
Dude you should be focused on yourself and stop trying to figure out why some peeps are getting more merits than others as people give merits based on how moved they are by a given post. You can't tell people whom they should or shouldn't merit. It's their merit and entitled to their gifting. The merit system is flawed and I think you can't do much about it.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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I have spend almost last 24 hours to read only two posts on the forum. One about alia and another one about aTriz. Here I am thinking I have now a proven point to claim that I was right at the time of writing the original post.

After reading both posts above, it's obvious that alia was literally fooling everyone even, theymos. So in my OP if you get an impression about nullius giving alia merits for her (his, their or whatever doesn't even matter) so called relevant and high quality posts then it's obvious that nullius was just a victim like other especially aTriz.

The strategy from alia was really very simple. She (he, they etc) simply targeted few highly reputable members like aTriz, Lauda, TMAN, Foxpup and others, not to mention nullius, made a circle around them and started taking benefit of the human weakness (Trust).

Great job scam_detector  Grin

PS: I was in vacation since last 3rd March so I really do not have much update about the forum. I will move my focus after posting this thread.
jr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 5
Im a nuvie here and I want to ask you guys what is the basis for "merits. I read it here that even a single liner post can receive merits. My understanding is that your post  should make sense and is very relevant to the topic a hand. Can anybody answer my question, please.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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They are weak when it comes to pussy. if you have one, show it on camera and get merits. probably I would've be sending out hundreds of merits to alia if I had that many. (actually not, despite being a loser virgin, I'm not weak against girls, that's because I haven't jumped one yet. maybe experiencing matrimonial intercourse, could develop a weakness in me).

You just bought another idea on the table  Grin
I wish I had one LOL
copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
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They are weak when it comes to pussy. if you have one, show it on camera and get merits. probably I would've be sending out hundreds of merits to alia if I had that many. (actually not, despite being a loser virgin, I'm not weak against girls, that's because I haven't jumped one yet. maybe experiencing matrimonial intercourse, could develop a weakness in me).
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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Your post history is worse than decent, and although the quality has been getting better recently (meaning the past few weeks), it's an obvious ploy to try to earn more Merit (keyword: obvious).
-Direct affect of bring the merit system on the table.  Grin

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- For the record they both are good content creators especially nullius.


hero member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 638
3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.

5. nullius and I are both open haters of people who exchange merit for favours, money. etc. - I have been offered merit points for favours/money multiple times, and I have declined every time.

nullius puts a great deal of time and effort into his posts, and when they're written about me, you can understand why I'd want to give him merit. People like him, who provide posts filled with content and backed with evidence, are the reason that I come here.

How long have you and nullius been married? Sounds like a great relationship!

I'm kidding....mostly.

nullius puts a great deal of time and effort into his posts, and when they're written about me, you can understand why I'd want to give him merit. People like him, who provide posts filled with content and backed with evidence, are the reason that I come here. It's not just me - he's in the list of top merit receivers for a reason. I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.

This is the reason all of us should be here. Thanks for rewarding those that give us so much.
member
Activity: 378
Merit: 25
I just came here because of your clickbait title. I just read through the thread, and this is all I have to say:

Stop trying so hard to earn merit. Your post history is worse than decent, and although the quality has been getting better recently (meaning the past few weeks), it's an obvious ploy to try to earn more Merit (keyword: obvious). I'd just like to point out the fact that I (and more than likely others) do not tend to merit posts that are obviously looking for merit.

Contribute something more natural to conversation. Take time to partake and engage in topics that are relevant and topical to Bitcoin. If you don't know what people are talking about in the topic, do a little Google search and try to gain knowledge on the subject matter, and then ask questions that show genuine interest. If your post is genuine, it will show through; especially if we can see that you've taken the time to be a part of a larger conversation rather than just contributing to megathreads.

Give yourself some time and explore the vast sea that is this forum. Get involved, and make some friends.

But do NOT post passive aggressive topics that turn into sucking up to others. That's the vibe I'm getting from you in this thread. It's unnatural, forced, and quite frankly, awkward as hell.

the problem with this people, they are envious to others that have granted merits, they pulled you down when you have been merited, rank is not a basis if it is highly deserves a merit or not, some newbies have better posts and of quality than higher ranked members, rank is just a laddered system, all high ranked members started as newbies. merits is just a part of that system. if 2 persons are giving each other merits, maybe you should look at their posts and not just the merit exchange, regardless of their ranks.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 976
I just came here because of your clickbait title. I just read through the thread, and this is all I have to say:

Stop trying so hard to earn merit. Your post history is worse than decent, and although the quality has been getting better recently (meaning the past few weeks), it's an obvious ploy to try to earn more Merit (keyword: obvious). I'd just like to point out the fact that I (and more than likely others) do not tend to merit posts that are obviously looking for merit.

Contribute something more natural to conversation. Take time to partake and engage in topics that are relevant and topical to Bitcoin. If you don't know what people are talking about in the topic, do a little Google search and try to gain knowledge on the subject matter, and then ask questions that show genuine interest. If your post is genuine, it will show through; especially if we can see that you've taken the time to be a part of a larger conversation rather than just contributing to megathreads.

Give yourself some time and explore the vast sea that is this forum. Get involved, and make some friends.

But do NOT post passive aggressive topics that turn into sucking up to others. That's the vibe I'm getting from you in this thread. It's unnatural, forced, and quite frankly, awkward as hell.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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Input post into merit generator routine:
     1) did I learn anything from this post                            No
     2) did this post add anything to the thread                   No
     3) was this post funny                                                No
     4) have i not read this in 250 different posts already      Yes
     5) does this post look like an attempt to get merit         Yes
Output: no merit rewarded


Sorry, I need to go to sleep
Hope you had a nice sleep. I like the what you just did  Grin
I like the way you broke it down and left your feedback. May be merit needs to be more detailed (Just a wild guess  Roll Eyes ).
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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You seem to have forgotten that merit between two people cannot be given infinitely, because merit is scarce.

- Is that a trick you apply when you encounter someone... "You seem to have forgotten", "I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day" and etc...?

I guess we both know what we are doing here. I'm not out to change the world nor to wreck it either.

Let's continue with your given numbers... You both have now 15 Merits each and 2.5 sMerits. You can giveaway 2 each. That makes gaining 1 more sMerits each. So again you can giveaway 1 each and now you both again get 0.5 sMerit each. That adds up with the leftover 0.5 sMerit and make 1 sMerit again. Now give each other this 1 sMerit. What do you have now...

19 Merits and 0 sMerits each. Means your initial 10 Merits just turned into 19 merits.

Do you see from 5 sMerits each, you both were able to accumulate 9 more Merits each just because you wanted to exchange the merits with each others?
If you were not in exchange mood then you would be given your initial 5 sMerits to some random good posts and in return we don't know what would you get. This is how someone can manipulate merit system if two person decides to give merits each others to gain advantage.

But this is not my point here and you also clearly know what I wanted to say when I said, "...receive merits from each others for infinite times".
You are just trying to exaggerate the topic.

We all know you and nullius are making good post. I never ignored it. What I said is this, "...no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia".

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There's no trade-off happening which you cannot see - ~ Get your tinfoil hat off.
- Don't bring something that no one is asking for.

copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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- Don't you think I should receive merits for my contents not to make you happy since you are merit sender?.
If you want merit, you'll have to make posts that are worthy of merit, same as everybody else. You won't receive it as a favour, at least not from me.


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No, I am literally saying the exact opposite

Pay close attention, we both are saying the same thing.  Grin

We both are on the same page.

In fact we all are on the same page no doubt but we always can not take good decision, it's in our nature.  Smiley
jr. member
Activity: 182
Merit: 1
Yeah, they say people are abusing merits by just giving it to their friends or groups cycle but they are just doing it the same with us, so just ignore the others and just do things that you know it's right.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 12
I think many people are now studying how to get advantages, others can refer to the method, but not necessarily for you, I feel as long as they are posting useful information on it, people who agree will give you the advantages of time.
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 197

I agree with what you pointed out, Pharmacist. Newcome users should try improving their English skills first, reading and writing skills in particular. The simple reason is if they can not understand what they read in the forum, they can not discuss, help other users for sure. Writing skill is important when they want to express their original ideas into words, phrases, sentences.
I have seen lots of users in the forum (mostly came from Newbies and Junior Members) posted broken-English threads. I am not sure they came from spammers, who usually using Google translate for their daily boring works; but mostly came from them.
I also hope that merit system will completely eliminate those users out of the forum forever.


Input post into merit generator routine:
     1) did I learn anything from this post                            No
     2) did this post add anything to the thread                   No
     3) was this post funny                                                No
     4) have i not read this in 250 different posts already      Yes
     5) does this post look like an attempt to get merit         Yes
Output: no merit rewarded


Sorry, I need to go to sleep
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