I am not yet sure what conclusion to make out of this.
Well, either they are working through aTriz and are forced to use an address designated by him or they are alts. 
Topic: this guy sells ICO picks with merits! (Read 2040 times)
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Merited by mich (50), fullypak (33), ap3311 (25), PrintMule (20), saulzaents (12)...
Actually, I have found this thread because of reference link on account talatk's trust page, as usual, looking at something completely not related and I have found this old thread.
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Just relax and put your tongue back in your mouth. You guys are just talking trash.
Just relax and put your tongue back in your mouth. You guys are just talking trash.
Account talatk:
Pretty much here(Bob's repair bounty) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zKiPhH2hBRwS5bFEvRwI-0mLq7bQ-1eSKzMBGB6XAHk/edit#gid=1008672769 (#19, #22)
Translated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-john-mcafee-tarafndan-desteklenen-bobs-repair-2812796
Account HarryKPeters(apparently hacked) :
Can be found in Tass's translation bounty https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XKlY9xEGkX4RdRmAS3nCkLtvFK9aSUVrVvB7L22uihk/edit#gid=0
Translated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18420566
Account aTriz (yep, this one):
Authentication Post.
Bounty I join: Signature
Bitcointalk Username aTriz
Eth Addresss: 0xed0d7294a767D0EbfF0cC46f365193f2C80D2D49
Bounty I join: Signature
Bitcointalk Username aTriz
Eth Addresss: 0xed0d7294a767D0EbfF0cC46f365193f2C80D2D49
I am not yet sure what conclusion to make out of this.
I can see merits being used as a currency in the future.
I mean, they behave almost the same as a coin. They are created in a limited fashion, are trade-able and people want them.
The minute that we allow this, is the minute that the merit system has completely failed its purpose and this forum is on a spiraling to a free-for-all shithole filled with *whatever-world spamming idiots*.I mean, they behave almost the same as a coin. They are created in a limited fashion, are trade-able and people want them.
At 11:05:49 today, 23 February 2018, I permanently surpassed #1076869 “pitipawn” on the list of Top-merited users, all-time. pitiprawn had been #4. He was ahead of me for all of about twelve days. And I did it the honest way.
Now, the “pitiprawn” account is forever stuck at 478 merit. That’s not even the threshold for Hero Membership. In time, others will also surpass him. He will drift down the all-time top-merited list, until he drops off the bottom. Eventually, every new account who reaches Hero Member will exceed him; at that, going from zero to Hero is now every new user’s chance to beat pitiprawn.
In time, pitiprawn will sink down to the level of a footnote in the annals of forum abuse handling. Lauda will be remembered not for stopping pitiprawn, but for squashing him together with so very many worms just like him; pitiprawn himself is no more significant in that story than dirt swept into a dustpan. pitiprawn himself shall be all but forgotten, fallen to the implicit damnatio memoriae of the utterly worthless.
Infamous last words (translated by Betfair):
Crime doesn’t pay.
Criminal scum. There is a reason why I said, “crime doesn’t pay.” Someone who dovetailed the “pump” part of pump-and-dump with a merit abuse racket is of criminal character. I would never be surprised to find such a character doing de jure crimes, such as escalating to death threats when he doesn’t get his way. People do not change, I know.
Now, the “pitiprawn” account is forever stuck at 478 merit. That’s not even the threshold for Hero Membership. In time, others will also surpass him. He will drift down the all-time top-merited list, until he drops off the bottom. Eventually, every new account who reaches Hero Member will exceed him; at that, going from zero to Hero is now every new user’s chance to beat pitiprawn.
In time, pitiprawn will sink down to the level of a footnote in the annals of forum abuse handling. Lauda will be remembered not for stopping pitiprawn, but for squashing him together with so very many worms just like him; pitiprawn himself is no more significant in that story than dirt swept into a dustpan. pitiprawn himself shall be all but forgotten, fallen to the implicit damnatio memoriae of the utterly worthless.
Infamous last words (translated by Betfair):
do not underestimate my power anymore...
Crime doesn’t pay.
Did you know pitipawn has sent death threats to some people? He is lucky that he is not perma banned yet. It is also possible that he is alt-account of an already perma banned member. People do not change you know.
Criminal scum. There is a reason why I said, “crime doesn’t pay.” Someone who dovetailed the “pump” part of pump-and-dump with a merit abuse racket is of criminal character. I would never be surprised to find such a character doing de jure crimes, such as escalating to death threats when he doesn’t get his way. People do not change, I know.
So as a turkish guy you say that troll represents your community?
Yeah I was thinking this man could be a perfect fit to represent our community while I was giving merits to his post. LOL.
It's more fun to see how you guys react to these little stupid shits.
Nothing will give Lauda a right to put that negative trust to my profile. So don't push further and stop wasting my time.
You are more fun, trying to pretend you do not know him. Other guy pretend he was drunk, excuse after excuse.
Did you know pitipawn has sent death threats to some people? He is lucky that he is not perma banned yet. It is also possible that he is alt-account of an already perma banned member. People do not change you know.
Enjoy your -trust for supporting a disgraced member of our community.
Having already characterized this case upthread as the the single worst case of merit abuse anywhere on the forum, I want to emphasize this:
Surely, I am far from alone in having noticed that something was amiss. I myself noticed pitiprawn sometime before 11 February; but due to the language barrier, I was then only able to adduce that pitiprawn was “running Turkish threads soliciting merit in some fashion”:
Thanks. In the time since you wrote that, I handily blew past “deeperx”. Also past “RichDaniel”, the “Hero” Member so incredibly meritorious that he got +283 in the span of an hour (then got red-tagged for his trouble). Unfortunately, within the past 24 hours, I’ve fallen behind “pitipawn”, a Full Member who seems to be running Turkish threads soliciting merit in some fashion. I’d better work harder!
pitiprawn’s outrageous, organized, wanton and willful abuse continued for weeks. When a Turkish user stepped forward with translation, the abuse was stopped cold.
This is an instructive example for those who want to clean up some of the abuse which is effectually protected by language barriers. Most of all, it is an admirable precedent for users who frequent the “local” forums. If you see something awful, don’t just ignore it!
(Note that that last line was deleted by talatk while I was writing this post; I noticed this just before posting. I have added the red emphasis.)
BREAKING NEWS: #476302 “talatk” has become king of the world and emperor of the universe. He now issues peremptory edicts defining Lauda’s rights, and calling Lauda to answer. Also, telling me what to do.
I’ll grab popcorn.
NOTICE: talatk, please be advised that based on your behaviour here, any PMs, e-mails, or other communications you send to me may be published at my sole discretion. This is a special new policy.
Edit, P.S.—
Thank you, Betfair, for reporting this—and most of all (+5), for translating the Turkish for a sufficient proof. I’ve had my eye on pitiprawn for awhile. It was obvious that he was doing something questionable, at best; just the post titles alone show(ed) that he was openly soliciting merit in some fashion, even without being able to read Turkish. But it would have been difficult to get the evidence, or even understand what his ploy was, whereas Turkish is not one of the languages in which I have sufficient facility to at least do what I call “human-guided machine translation”.
Surely, I am far from alone in having noticed that something was amiss. I myself noticed pitiprawn sometime before 11 February; but due to the language barrier, I was then only able to adduce that pitiprawn was “running Turkish threads soliciting merit in some fashion”:
Before reading this post, I was already thinking I would like a "Merit-subscription" to your posts. Basically, (almost) anything that you write is worth reading.
You're the second Top-merited Member, only second to deeperx (who has red trust and got all his Merit for DeepOnion posts in his self-moderated (censored) ANN-thread). I really appreciate how well the Merit system works for good posters (and I ignore deeperx in my list of good posters).
You're the second Top-merited Member, only second to deeperx (who has red trust and got all his Merit for DeepOnion posts in his self-moderated (censored) ANN-thread). I really appreciate how well the Merit system works for good posters (and I ignore deeperx in my list of good posters).
Thanks. In the time since you wrote that, I handily blew past “deeperx”. Also past “RichDaniel”, the “Hero” Member so incredibly meritorious that he got +283 in the span of an hour (then got red-tagged for his trouble). Unfortunately, within the past 24 hours, I’ve fallen behind “pitipawn”, a Full Member who seems to be running Turkish threads soliciting merit in some fashion. I’d better work harder!
pitiprawn’s outrageous, organized, wanton and willful abuse continued for weeks. When a Turkish user stepped forward with translation, the abuse was stopped cold.
This is an instructive example for those who want to clean up some of the abuse which is effectually protected by language barriers. Most of all, it is an admirable precedent for users who frequent the “local” forums. If you see something awful, don’t just ignore it!
Nothing will give Lauda a right to put that negative trust to my profile. So don't push further and stop wasting my time.
Just relax and put your tongue back in your mouth. You guys are just talking trash.
Lauda is not here for now so, go find someone else's ass to lick. I can pm you when he answers to this bs.
Lauda is not here for now so, go find someone else's ass to lick. I can pm you when he answers to this bs.
(Note that that last line was deleted by talatk while I was writing this post; I noticed this just before posting. I have added the red emphasis.)
BREAKING NEWS: #476302 “talatk” has become king of the world and emperor of the universe. He now issues peremptory edicts defining Lauda’s rights, and calling Lauda to answer. Also, telling me what to do.
I’ll grab popcorn.
NOTICE: talatk, please be advised that based on your behaviour here, any PMs, e-mails, or other communications you send to me may be published at my sole discretion. This is a special new policy.
Edit, P.S.—
Quote from: nullius
#476302 “talatk” was caught participating in the single worst case of merit abuse yet seen (#1076869 “pitipawn”). Having received negative trust feedback, he publicly declared for his own part that he “sent those merits to support pitipawn on the race”. Assuming the veracity of this statement *arguendo*, this amounts to professing oneself to have committed a crime—by way of defending oneself on charges of a slightly different version of the same crime. It is a distinction without a difference.
Aggravating the matter, “talatk” then proceeded to evince not only a self-entitled attitude, but a self-righteous conceit (!) and the presumptuousness of dictating limitations on Lauda’s “right” of action (!!). Not only is it outrageous for one caught red-handed in wrongdoing to behave in such manner: It also demonstrates the polar opposite of remorse.
As things stand, “talatk” was last seen hurling some vapid vulgarity at me and Lauda both (then deleting it).
Based on such publicly demonstrated *wanton and willful self-righteousness about wrongdoing*, plus other bad behaviour, I would not trust this user to scoop a cat litter box.
Aggravating the matter, “talatk” then proceeded to evince not only a self-entitled attitude, but a self-righteous conceit (!) and the presumptuousness of dictating limitations on Lauda’s “right” of action (!!). Not only is it outrageous for one caught red-handed in wrongdoing to behave in such manner: It also demonstrates the polar opposite of remorse.
As things stand, “talatk” was last seen hurling some vapid vulgarity at me and Lauda both (then deleting it).
Based on such publicly demonstrated *wanton and willful self-righteousness about wrongdoing*, plus other bad behaviour, I would not trust this user to scoop a cat litter box.
Betfair, alas: Sarcasm and satire do not work with fools on the Internet.
I will now start spamming, scamming, punching old people on the street at random, and selling merit in exchange for BCH. Just for fun! Hahah. So very funny, I am laughing myself to death.
I will now start spamming, scamming, punching old people on the street at random, and selling merit in exchange for BCH. Just for fun! Hahah. So very funny, I am laughing myself to death.
Oh god...
Yeah, I didn't understand that sarcasm, sure...
Just relax and put your tongue back in your mouth. You guys are just talking trash.
Its just fun dude like you said about that troll 
dont worry about lauda s neg trust he did for fun hehehe
dont worry about lauda s neg trust he did for fun heheheUghh... What a great answer. This forum needs more time absorbers like you.
Betfair, alas: Sarcasm and satire do not work with fools on the Internet.
I will now start spamming, scamming, punching old people on the street at random, and selling merit in exchange for BCH. Just for fun! Hahah. So very funny, I am laughing myself to death.
Its just fun dude like you said about that troll dont worry about lauda s neg trust he did for fun hehehe
dont worry about lauda s neg trust he did for fun heheheUghh... What a great answer. This forum needs more time absorbers like you.
So as a turkish guy you say that troll represents your community?
Yeah I was thinking this man could be a perfect fit to represent our community while I was giving merits to his post. LOL.
It's more fun to see how you guys react to these little stupid shits.
Nothing will give Lauda a right to put that negative trust to my profile. So don't push further and stop wasting my time.
dont worry about lauda s neg trust he did for fun hehehe So as a turkish guy you say that troll represents your community?
Yeah I was thinking this man could be a perfect fit to represent our community while I was giving merits to his post. LOL.
It's more fun to see how you guys react to these little stupid shits.
Nothing will give Lauda a right to put that negative trust to my profile. So don't push further and stop wasting my time.
so you just sent those merits for nothing? for fun? cool
I wanted someone from our community to be in that top merited list. And yes, maybe I sent those merits for fun. So?
On principle, +1 for sincere national pride to quash self-serving exploitation of one’s own “community” as a wretched excuse.
so you just sent those merits for nothing? for fun? cool
I wanted someone from our community to be in that top merited list. And yes, maybe I sent those merits for fun. So?
so you just sent those merits for nothing? for fun? cool
I wanted someone from our community to be in that top merited list. And yes, maybe I sent those merits for fun. So?
"Trading merit. Thorough and very shady abuse of the new system."
If you are trying to tell that I sent those merits to get an ICO advice, I don't even have any messages between pitipawn and me
I sent those merits to support pitipawn on the race. And I would ask for a proof but since you don't have any, I'll just ask what do you want from me?
so you just sent those merits for nothing? for fun? cool If you are trying to tell that I sent those merits to get an ICO advice, I don't even have any messages between pitipawn and me
I sent those merits to support pitipawn on the race. And I would ask for a proof but since you don't have any, I'll just ask what do you want from me?
"Trading merit. Thorough and very shady abuse of the new system."
If you are trying to tell that I sent those merits to get an ICO advice, I don't even have any messages between pitipawn and me
I sent those merits to support pitipawn on the race. And I would ask for a proof but since you don't have any, I'll just ask what do you want from me?
If you are trying to tell that I sent those merits to get an ICO advice, I don't even have any messages between pitipawn and me
I sent those merits to support pitipawn on the race. And I would ask for a proof but since you don't have any, I'll just ask what do you want from me?
You can see that, i have merited this guy but let me tell you the story. One night i was very drunk and i saw piti's thread and checked his old posts...
So you are telling me that you *accidentally* (due to not being fully self aware) merited his post? That may be possible, but it is not likely that many will believe it. I'm not just looking at who merited OP, but also what they did with their other merit points and who sent them merit. That should easily separate you from the others (assuming your story is true). There's more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898785.0;all (https://archive.fo/ODerP). Anyone willing to translate the OP?
You can be sure about that my story is true and one of my post to his thread support me, Also i got some merit from some of my informative thread. You may see them;
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29985171
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2883465
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29301825
Support for clean forum
You can see that, i have merited this guy but let me tell you the story. One night i was very drunk and i saw piti's thread and checked his old posts...
So you are telling me that you *accidentally* (due to not being fully self aware) merited his post? That may be possible, but it is not likely that many will believe it. I'm not just looking at who merited OP, but also what they did with their other merit points and who sent them merit. That should easily separate you from the others (assuming your story is true). There's more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898785.0;all (https://archive.fo/ODerP). Anyone willing to translate the OP?
You can see that, i have merited this guy but let me tell you the story.
One night i was very drunk and i saw piti's thread and checked his old posts. Then i have seen a reply from this guy '' demezler mi size , tükürmezler mi yüzünüze pitiyi 103 meritle sincap gibi gezdiriyonuz diye ''
I have laughed nearly half an hour because it is very funny on our language (perhaps not funny, only effect of alcohol )
, and mean is '' You show me like a SQUIRREL with 103 merits''
I have a squirrel named as SİNCO
Respect my SİNCO
One night i was very drunk and i saw piti's thread and checked his old posts. Then i have seen a reply from this guy '' demezler mi size , tükürmezler mi yüzünüze pitiyi 103 meritle sincap gibi gezdiriyonuz diye ''
I have laughed nearly half an hour because it is very funny on our language (perhaps not funny, only effect of alcohol )
, and mean is '' You show me like a SQUIRREL with 103 merits'' I have a squirrel named as SİNCO
Respect my SİNCO
What’s more, people susceptible to this non-argument conveniently forget that this money is drawn from the zero-sum game of pump-and-dump scamming. All that ICO spam payola money comes from somewhere: Bilked investors, many of whom are too naïve to really be blamed for taking the bait. Maybe your grandmother. Maybe some uneducated, honest working-class individual who is just trying get a little bump up on his hard-earned wages; he sees a glitzy spam ad filled with techno-babble he cannot possibly hope to understand—then winds up having food stolen out of the mouth of his children, when “pump” is inevitably followed by “dump”.
Why do the bleeding hearts never remember this? Ah, yes: Because they are not motivated by helping people, but only by a perverse desire to fawn with dripping empathy over trash.
You've nailed it. The money has to come from somewhere. I would even go as far as calling people who shitpost for pennies outright thieves. They don't fulfill their end of the 'contract' properly, and yet receive full payment. Why do the bleeding hearts never remember this? Ah, yes: Because they are not motivated by helping people, but only by a perverse desire to fawn with dripping empathy over trash.
Of course. saulzaents refers to the lunatic who gave you +50 for red-tagging him, and gave me +50 for insulting him. Either an insane masochist, or someone with a very guilty conscience—or a persecuted genius, whose actions are predicated on cosmic designs beyond the comprehension of mere mortals! /s
Just a classic example of preemptive defense. We've seen *you-know-who* use it in a different sense. I’ll chime in afterwards: Without yeoman’s service done by you and a few others, the merit system would be totally corrupted overnight. Since theymos said that signature campaigns will be banned if the merit system fails, that means we would lose many good posters who essentially get paid to spend all day helping people and answering technical questions on an Internet forum. Many other good posters don’t have a paid signature—but those would also leave, because the spam problem would not be solved. (Signature spamming is not the only type of spamming!)
If the merit system fails, the forum will implode.
So—thank you.
Trying my best / you are welcome.If the merit system fails, the forum will implode.
So—thank you.
I am Turkish and I don't give a shit about nationality when it comes to "justice" and enforcing "rules / principles", otherwise you will have a system which friends protect each other and "others" are always justified unfairly.
Exactly. Who cares where you come from? Nobody reasonable. Those that sling racism or whatever bullshit at me are just butthurt they got caught.I have sent another message to Turkish moderator "EFS" and did get reply "I can't do anything" but at the same time noticed that he removes all improper posts except pitipawn's posts. I have strong belief he is friend of EFS and have been enjoying double standards in the Turkish forum, despite his bad attitude, foul mouth and ego-centric threads.
You did PM some people (e.g. maxwell and mitchell) who's "jurisdiction" isn't that section (especially the former who is very busy and shouldn't moderate anyways). We shouldn't confuse EFS's statement of "I can't do anything" with "I do not want to do anything". I don't want to speculate on his involvement there (unless someone has evidence), even though it is very likely. What he actually meant to say is: "He can do a lot, but chooses to do nothing". I expect I will get a lot of -trust from his group soon by telling these but I don't give a shit about e-honor so here you go, it matters more to me that forum stays clean.
That is fine. They will expose themselves and I'll tag those accounts too.Did someone kill the thread? I only see this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30007854.
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