Topic: this guy sells ICO picks with merits! - page 2. (Read 2045 times)

To be able to send that big amount of sMerits to such posts is really something.. People who send merit to their friend just because of their so-called "friendship" and to take note in just a nonsense post is unfair and unacceptable.

if you already know that people here send merits to their friend that way, why not report them instead of acting like one of them? Users like these ones are the reason why merit system is being criticized by many members here.

sMerit is created to be used in sending to a post that deserves to get merits because of its quality and sense. You are not contributing any help to promote the merit system but instead destroying its very essence.

There are so many deserving posts that are being overlooked or ignored by many people. Why not spend it to them instead of wasting it. Won't it be a better place if everyone follow the rules instead of destroying it? or maybe some people here don't like better places?

I am Turkish and I don't give a shit about nationality when it comes to "justice" and enforcing "rules / principles", otherwise you will have a system which friends protect each other and "others" are always justified unfairly.

I have sent above message to mods mentioned and did not get a reply.

I have sent another message to Turkish moderator "EFS" and did get reply "I can't do anything" but at the same time noticed that he removes all improper posts except pitipawn's posts. I have strong belief he is friend of EFS and have been enjoying double standards in the Turkish forum, despite his bad attitude, foul mouth and ego-centric threads.

He goes to threads and boasts how good he is and how pathetic others are. At times some laugh at him, some ignore him and some get aggressive with him. Recently, I have changed my tone and replied him with his own attitude, we traded some threats and bad mouthing.

It's 100% known that pitipawn is an alt-account. Through IP search and Login times, it can be easily found who is main account is.

It's also obviously he is supporting his threads through his alt-accounts and pump/dump group, you can easily identify his group by looking who has sent him merits in a short period of time. You can also see majority of people who merited him has minus trust ratings as well (no surprise).

Now this thread is deleted to public, but I am sure mods can still see the contents: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2895261

This forum is still the best source in Cryptocurrency. But if you want to keep forum clean or have long term vision on your "merit system", you have to have a control mechanism against abusive behaviour and take actions when needed.

I expect I will get a lot of -trust from his group soon by telling these but I don't give a shit about e-honor so here you go, it matters more to me that forum stays clean.

In terms of both magnitude and quality, this is the single worst case of merit abuse anywhere on the forum.  Not only does he add no substance to the forum whatsoever:  #1076869 “pitipawn” has somehow become the current #4 on the list of “Top-merited users, all-time” by performing the “pump” part of ICOs (and you-know-what follows...).

Thank you, Betfair, for reporting this—and most of all (+5), for translating the Turkish for a sufficient proof.  I’ve had my eye on pitiprawn for awhile.  It was obvious that he was doing something questionable, at best; just the post titles alone show(ed) that he was openly soliciting merit in some fashion, even without being able to read Turkish.  But it would have been difficult to get the evidence, or even understand what his ploy was, whereas Turkish is not one of the languages in which I have sufficient facility to at least do what I call “human-guided machine translation”.

It is fitting that this was reported by someone who can read Turkish.

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Thanks.

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(Directed at Lauda:)

Of course, we will; and of course, Lauda will.

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Damn straight—and no, I don’t care if they starve.

What’s more, people susceptible to this non-argument conveniently forget that this money is drawn from the zero-sum game of pump-and-dump scamming.  All that ICO spam payola money comes from somewhere:  Bilked investors, many of whom are too naïve to really be blamed for taking the bait.  Maybe your grandmother.  Maybe some uneducated, honest working-class individual who is just trying get a little bump up on his hard-earned wages; he sees a glitzy spam ad filled with techno-babble he cannot possibly hope to understand—then winds up having food stolen out of the mouth of his children, when “pump” is inevitably followed by “dump”.

Why do the bleeding hearts never remember this?  Ah, yes:  Because they are not motivated by helping people, but only by a perverse desire to fawn with dripping empathy over trash.

Spam is spam, abuse is abuse, and that’s already more than sufficient reason to kick-ban pitiprawn and many of his spamming followers.  But it is wise to keep in the back of one’s mind the zero-sum nature of all spams and scams.  Every spammer’s and scammer’s gain is somebody else’s loss.

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Of course.  saulzaents refers to the lunatic who gave you +50 for red-tagging him, and gave me +50 for insulting him.  Either an insane masochist, or someone with a very guilty conscience—or a persecuted genius, whose actions are predicated on cosmic designs beyond the comprehension of mere mortals! /s

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I’ll chime in afterwards:  Without yeoman’s service done by you and a few others, the merit system would be totally corrupted overnight.  Since theymos said that signature campaigns will be banned if the merit system fails, that means we would lose many good posters who essentially get paid to spend all day helping people and answering technical questions on an Internet forum.  Many other good posters don’t have a paid signature—but those would also leave, because the spam problem would not be solved.  (Signature spamming is not the only type of spamming!)

If the merit system fails, the forum will implode.

So—thank you.

 I am sorry :d I did not know you had heard anything like this before. I thought I was the first person on this matter, but some people have already told you that before. I have not seen the statement .I mean, for the first time I'm not the one who asked you if you could be a racist. good day to you if still good.

 

Here we go again. How about you make up something unique for a change. I've heard this the last time some people in that section got busted. Just go away and stop abusing the forum. Statement from several days ago:

If you want to put in the senders of your merit, do you want to compare? Is this how it works? you can never reach it this way. Please tell me your true purpose. i will help you.

this forum is full of people who send merit to their friend  to friend in this way. Are you going to call yourself a "merit hunter" anymore? then start with your own partisan first. not from my friends or turkish users. I do not understand, you have a Turkish hostility. or are you racist ?

The background noise is to be ignored. Back to the actual thread:

Anyone want to chime in before this be done?

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Mich:



50 to pitipawn, 45 to saulzaents (50 from pitipawn; 45 from mich; 40 from mstfprcn), 30 to mstfprcn(10 from pitipawn; 10 from saulzaents).

so ? You hide very well. of course, that an "old" manager should know about such games. absolutely important "merit" You think negative means that trust is not critical for that. It seems like a good trick  to hide in this way.

you know it does not matter. I do not need to explain it to you I believe. do not feel guilty about that, it's just courageous enough to give 50 merits to your absurd message.

I do not know what you're trying to do. You're like a kid with a toy. Please do not go any further. I have not done anything wrong with anyone during this forum. unlike many people, I did not cheat anyone. I did not try to extort anyone's money. I did not fool anyone. Did I ever tell you that  ?, i  did not try to extort anyone's  money

If you do not know the forum rules, I think you should not talk.

I say I have two accounts. is there any oddness in your opinion? perhaps it is not forbidden if I can say so easily? is it possible in your opinion?
 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

You've said it yourself. If you have two accounts then you're a certified and Legit account farmer. Whats the use of having two accounts in the forum? For bounty ofcourse. To be honest you can get tagged because you already guilty of having two accounts. If other DT will see this dont be surprised if you got red paint in your profile, at least you still got extra one tho.

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To the topic well turkish seems so generous in giving merits huh.

No surprise.

If you think that I was asking whether you had a piece of paper (also known as a degree), you completely missed the point.

You are a liar. I have mathematically proven this (QED) in this post.
 
Nice insinuation. You mean this guy?

I actually have two accounts belong to me.but it is not one of the above.  I use one and  I do not have to say the other. and I'm not making the farm as much as you do. By the way,  You probably did not accept it, but I'm still a doctor.

I suggest that you leave as soon as possible the disdain for all. I do not know how much you are educated, but make sure you have people who are much better educated. I suggest you not recognize and therefore should not prejudge anyone and not thinking about them and  not show behavior.


I know two of these nicknames. there is no meaning in this. How much does it make sense for me to do this to you? Think about it, it's meaningless. is not it .

 https://ibb.co/eXwo87

Merited by soniclord (50)  

did you notice it,  ? how meaningless it is. Please dont act like this  way makes no sense.

I read the whole post i have lived in turkey 10 years so i am kinda native. First of all pitipawn should get banned for the swears he used in that post beside everything. I checked his other posts and he is posting like this all the time.

Second of all translation of the op seems correct.

Only there is a wrong part in here: 'IM GONNA SEND PICKS TO ONES WHO SAID WISH I HAD MERIT Sad '   I CAN SEND YOU SOME BUT I DONT HAVE ANY 

The correct translation is: 'IM GONNA SEND PICKS TO ONES WHO SAID WISH I HAD MERIT, I WILL SEND THEM TOO'

You mean farming accounts and joining campaigns? Yes, I could believe that you have that job.

Liar. It looks like you were only actually looking out for yourself.

I dont want to upset you, but I am a doc. and  +  I'm an anesthesiologist. I do not have a job like giving negative trust to people like you unfairly. I have a real job in real sense.

I just sent you a message for the others. I did not talk to you for myself. already in the message I sent you did not tell you about myself. I always talked about the others.

there is no secret and there is no backroom. I did not understand why you had imagined such things. Unlike you I know the people of the country and I know them. There is  no hidden inform or there is no backroom

I didn't expect you to be an educated human being, thus I am not surprised by this message. "Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.". Your message doesn't even contain anything sensitive other than whiny bullshit about someone's children. Get a real job.
In addition to that, you make a sneaky accusation of evidence tampering against the OP and want to keep it private? What's up with all the nitwits and colluding in the backrooms?

Is this all the gang of busted people got? Yawn.

I guess you do not know anything about private life or privacy or you mean "private message". You like that kind of stuff, do not you? I am sure your fans will be enjoying this way. dont stop and keep going like this way.

Story time:

I'm so tired of self-entitled people sending me stories privately when the case is very public and I'm far from the only person making any *decisions* here. +- he accused OP for intentionally falsely translating some parts. I've blocked saul, and archived the translation made by OP here: https://archive.fo/f8zQM#selection-4541.0-4721.10.
It would be helpful if someone from the section posted here.

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[1] All of these should be banned from the forum. I'll take a wild guess and say that EFS probably turns a blind eye to the shitposting and abuse in there.

There are users like nullius and then there is this guy. Damn this guy is trolling the merit system real bad. Cut that jibber jabber shit and you'll find this:Read the bolded and underlined part and cut the chase.

I updated my previous post with the translation.