This is why I love this forum...and we should make it more powerful

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Quote from: nigthcrowd on February 03, 2022, 04:13:40 AM

Quote from: iamwithyou on December 10, 2021, 02:40:28 PM

I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/etccasino-1500-games-bonus-on-every-deposit-cashback-no-kyc-13-coins-5375243.

Below are the proofs:

I am waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to.
I suggest you to stay away from this casino who is not even willing to pay 37$, guess what can happen if you play and win big there.

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.

One thing I want to ask, why my quotes are often deleted, for reasons that do not fit the thread. Do I always answer in the context of that thread? Is it because I quoted a lapse 1 minute earlier I had also quoted?

That is spamming or post bursting that is why your post had been deleted , prevent posting multiple times in same thread , instead quote all of those for compile answers .

and also depend on the quality of your post if someone finds it generic or not worth then others will report that post to Mods for deletion .

nigthcrowd

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Quote from: iamwithyou on December 10, 2021, 02:40:28 PM

I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/etccasino-1500-games-bonus-on-every-deposit-cashback-no-kyc-13-coins-5375243.

Below are the proofs:
https://i.ibb.co/PFzFXQZ/cashout.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/VvnDN4X/sdf15sadf46e41r5we-chatt.jpg

I am waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to.
I suggest you to stay away from this casino who is not even willing to pay 37$, guess what can happen if you play and win big there.

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.

One thing I want to ask, why my quotes are often deleted, for reasons that do not fit the thread. Do I always answer in the context of that thread? Is it because I quoted a lapse 1 minute earlier I had also quoted?

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Quote from: nurilham on February 02, 2022, 06:47:17 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 02, 2022, 07:50:59 AM

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't.

Actually, posting in this thread can also help people who have some issues with a gambling platform, moreover if the gambling platform official team is also active right here, moreover doing some campaign right here.
It will ease people to reach them, moreover supported by string evidence, the members here will commonly help the user to rise up the case to their official.
But, of course, not all problems or accusations can be solved here. At least they can rise up their case at first. And commonly the team will follow up. ALthough it depends on the case and also on the team itself. BUt it sometimes helps.

Complainants should first address the issue on the casino's support team, and only escalate it to scam accusations if the support team is not addressing the issue, you are playing a casino that you put your money because you believe in it and you want to keep playing because you already accumulated a wager or points, you can protect its reputation if you keep it in the house first then escalate it to accusation here if you are not satisfied with how the support responded.

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In fact, it is not at all clear whether OP helped to get his winnings from his first post with the accusation of casino fraud. A post with such a topic name, by the way, is absolutely correct, because we all love BTT

, because the devs might not have been noticed because the name of the casino is not in the topic title.
But in any case, it's good that the situation is resolved and OP got his winnings. I think it’s more correct to write in the topic the name of the casino to which there are complaints or post your complaint directly in the topic of this casino. Obviously, devs read user reviews here in BTT and react accordingly to public claims

acroman08

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to the people who replied to my post.

what I am trying to say is, people should not have the mindset that posting their issues/scam accusations here in the forum will automatically solve the problem. the OP of this thread clearly thinks that the only reason he got his money back is because of the post he made. sure it might be because of that or it is completely has nothing to do with that. also, if people have scam accusations I encourage them to post their problem but don't expect that it will be solved just because they posted their scam accusation here. I don't deny that the forum could help them but just don't expect too much.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 02, 2022, 07:50:59 AM

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.

Well, it certainly sometimes don't, but it does give traction to other players to stop using the site though. I mean, yea, Ig in that case it's a needless task since the one that posted it wouldn't really get anything out of it, but at the very least, other users wouldn't fall into the same predicament. It's just like how people share who are the scammers, even if they can't get what they were scammed back, it's a pretty nice thing to do imo. Plus, if there's a chance, why not do it no? Especially if said forum (not just here specifically) has a mod or two that's active, you can directly talk about it with them easily.

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Quote from: nurilham on February 02, 2022, 06:47:17 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 02, 2022, 07:50:59 AM

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't.

Actually, posting in this thread can also help people who have some issues with a gambling platform, moreover if the gambling platform official team is also active right here, moreover doing some campaign right here.
It will ease people to reach them, moreover supported by string evidence, the members here will commonly help the user to rise up the case to their official.
But, of course, not all problems or accusations can be solved here. At least they can rise up their case at first. And commonly the team will follow up. ALthough it depends on the case and also on the team itself. BUt it sometimes helps.

Most of the time it could really help out because the community would really make out some negative reactions which would really be affecting their reputation and if they dont want to be affected
then they would need for those issues to get resolved or else it would really be putting a stain in overall reputation that they do have and you couldnt really get go wrong
with this community because if they would really be smelling something shady then these reactions and impressions would spread like wildfire.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 02, 2022, 07:50:59 AM

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't.

Actually, posting in this thread can also help people who have some issues with a gambling platform, moreover if the gambling platform official team is also active right here, moreover doing some campaign right here.
It will ease people to reach them, moreover supported by string evidence, the members here will commonly help the user to rise up the case to their official.
But, of course, not all problems or accusations can be solved here. At least they can rise up their case at first. And commonly the team will follow up. ALthough it depends on the case and also on the team itself. BUt it sometimes helps.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 02, 2022, 07:50:59 AM

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.

The problems depends,if it is a great casino with a lot of good reputation and if they are found to have made a mistake most likely they will remedy it.The problem is when people post their problems about a not well known casino and expect that opening a scam accusation against the scammers will solve their problem,it will not as the scammers only want to scam people but it will be really good in pointing out to a huge user base that play gambling with crypto to stay away from that casino.

acroman08

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I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.

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Quote from: Adbitco on February 01, 2022, 01:16:22 PM

The btt forum is another best way and good platform that will tell you more about any casino platform launched here through some expert and experience users. But to further more, did you really get their rules and regulation before enrolling?

Most of the platform who requested some deposit are likely to be scam, any legitimate platform does required deposit to get released your funds.
otherwise we can call it scam.

yep, here we have more experience from veteran gamblers who have a lot of their experience and i believe in the advice given. if you have problems playing on a gambling site then creating a topic on this forum will definitely have a big impact on the problems you are experiencing. there are also many active crypto gambling sites that have a good reputation and are diligent online, so just choose a gambling site based on the reviews on this forum.

mak013

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Quote from: pawanjain on February 01, 2022, 12:44:41 PM

Quote from: mak013 on February 01, 2022, 08:43:10 AM

You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.

The point you are stating (while its true) is different from what Betwrong mentioned.
You are correct that we might get negative trust if we promote a campaign whose owners are fraud and it makes sense because it will encourage more scam and as a candidate we should be aware of what we are promoting.
But at the same time the signature campaigns never mention that we should only speak good about the products we are promoting.
This eliminates biased judgements which was the point at the first place.

It`s true, that we can right both good and bad things about companies we promote, but the same time i think that is bad idea to wear scam signature even if you are talking that this is scam.

Quote from: pawanjain on February 01, 2022, 12:44:41 PM

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Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

That's an honest mistake Tongue

When I was a newbie I though it's just normal ads that get popped up on any website.
Little did I know they are signatures willingly worn by the users.

And due this mistake we have a problem that i pointed in the first step: if a newbie see a hero member in the thread, and this member don`t telling in this thread that the company is scam - the newbie can believe in company.

Adbitco

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The btt forum is another best way and good platform that will tell you more about any casino platform launched here through some expert and experience users. But to further more, did you really get their rules and regulation before enrolling?

Most of the platform who requested some deposit are likely to be scam, any legitimate platform does required deposit to get released your funds.
otherwise we can call it scam.

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Quote from: mak013 on February 01, 2022, 08:43:10 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:59:34 AM

Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want.

You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.

The point you are stating (while its true) is different from what Betwrong mentioned.
You are correct that we might get negative trust if we promote a campaign whose owners are fraud and it makes sense because it will encourage more scam and as a candidate we should be aware of what we are promoting.
But at the same time the signature campaigns never mention that we should only speak good about the products we are promoting.
This eliminates biased judgements which was the point at the first place.

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Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

That's an honest mistake Tongue

When I was a newbie I though it's just normal ads that get popped up on any website.
Little did I know they are signatures willingly worn by the users.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:59:34 AM

Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want.

You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.
Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

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Quote from: btc78 on January 28, 2022, 06:16:46 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:59:34 AM

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That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .

Right, it's very different from what we can see is happening with brick and mortar companies and their employees. There if you say something good about the competitor, you are fired, in the majority of cases. And if you are not saying that the company you are working for is the best in the world all the time, you'll be fired soon too. Here, on the other hand, it's more like with ads on race cars: if you are paid for it, you wear the ad

but it's not like you should be saying all the time that Red Bull is the best brand of energy drinks in the world (although it might be true

).

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on January 27, 2022, 05:14:39 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 27, 2022, 12:22:20 PM

Quote from: paxmao on January 27, 2022, 10:37:00 AM

Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

That's simply because not everyone knows about this forum. Many people are not aware that there's a forum called bitcointalk created by Satoshi himself.
Also, there are some people aware of this forum yet look for places elsewhere to find reviews about casinos.
People keep asking where they can find out which is a good casino and ask for websites which provide casino reviews and bonus offers etc...

^ But why did we see most scenarios when they were scammed they found this forum created a thread here on Bitcointalk? Sounds funny right?
The problem of most gamblers and probably those who are not aware of scams do not make any dip research but when they get scammed, that is the time they will dig research about the casino. However, we are so lucky here because we are oriented to such possible scams and we know how to determine legit casinos.

Well it is not rare at all for people to put the cart before the horse, after all how many people we see in this market thinking that the moment to make profits is when you sell when in fact whether or not you can me profits is most of the time determined by the moment and price at which you buy.

So this is the same, instead of doing their due diligence first and saving themselves a lot of headaches people just gamble in whatever casino they fancy only to begin to make their research once they have been scammed.

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Quote from: btc78 on January 28, 2022, 06:16:46 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:59:34 AM

Quote from: qtgwith on January 26, 2022, 08:30:13 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 06:05:28 AM

Quote from: milkacookie on January 25, 2022, 09:17:37 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 24, 2022, 07:05:39 AM

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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.

Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want.

That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .

We aren't that dumb on making out actions and we know on whats wrong and whats right.There would be no tolerance into those services/companies/platforms which do things which aren't right.

Of course we are the ones who would really be criticizing them and we could freely leave our spots in case we do see some shady activity from the site.We don't really like to mess up our reputation or

simply our account for just some small amount of bucks.So that would really be an standard thing to be done.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:59:34 AM

Quote from: qtgwith on January 26, 2022, 08:30:13 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 06:05:28 AM

Quote from: milkacookie on January 25, 2022, 09:17:37 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 24, 2022, 07:05:39 AM

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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.

Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want.

That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .

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Quote from: qtgwith on January 26, 2022, 08:30:13 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 06:05:28 AM

Quote from: milkacookie on January 25, 2022, 09:17:37 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 24, 2022, 07:05:39 AM

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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.

Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want.

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